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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/05 13:27:39
Subject: Sheppey crossing crash: Dozens hurt as 130 vehicles crash
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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Ouch !
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-23970047
Dozens of people have been injured as more than 130 vehicles were involved in a series of crashes in thick fog on the A249 Sheppey crossing in Kent.
Eight of those hurt in the collisions, which took place at about 07:15 BST, have serious injuries.
Ambulance crews said 27 casualties needed hospital treatment and they dealt with 200 people at the scene.
Firefighters said they had freed five people from their vehicles on the southbound carriageway.
One witness said visibility had been very poor at the time of the crash but drivers were approaching the crossing with no lights.
Others at the scene described a mass of tangled cars, lorries, and a car transporter. Some reports said the crash went on for 10 minutes as cars continuously collided with each other.
Scene 'horrendous'
South East Coast Ambulance Service (Secamb) said eight people were seriously injured with a further 27 requiring hospital treatment.
A Secamb spokesman said a further 200 people were either treated for minor injuries or given advice should symptoms develop later.
The injured people were taken to six different hospitals.
Medway Maritime Hospital said all of its routine planned surgery had been cancelled to help deal with the incident.
A spokesman said the hospital remained on standby and its emergency department was open.
The national speed limit applies to the dual carriageway crossing, with cars able to travel up to at 70mph, the Highways Agency said.
Driver Martin Stammers said the scene was "horrendous" and described seeing cars under lorries and people lying on the floor.
He said visibility was about 10 to 20 yards when he approached the bridge and saw five cars smashed into each other with one across the outside lane.
He said he managed to squeeze through a gap between that car and the central reservation, he said.
"For 10 minutes afterwards, all we could hear was screeching, cars thudding into each other, lorries crashing," he added.
He said he and his son ran to warn other drivers and warn cars to slow down.
"Later, a woman came up to us sobbing saying, 'thank you, thank you, you saved my life'," he said.
'Smashed cars everywhere'
Jaime Emmett, a 19-year-old student who was driving through the fog, said she managed to stop in time but a van collided with her car, and she then hit a car in front.
She said the fog was so thick she could only see a few cars ahead but added: "All I could hear was the cars smashing in front of each other and I could not know how far ahead the accident was."
Later she said she could see "smashed cars everywhere", a lorry that had crashed into the central reservation and ambulance crews helping injured people with one team carrying a man in a stretcher.
Cliff Montgomery, 53, who was driving from his home on the Isle of Sheppey to Gillingham, said he was trapped in a group of vehicles with a pile-up in front of him and another one behind.
"I was in the outside lane when vehicles in front of me braked and cars were crashing," he said.
"There was another pile-up behind the group of cars I was travelling in. All I could do was brake, stop and await further instructions."
He said it was very foggy and in some places he could only see 30ft in front of him.
Mr Montgomery added: "When you see the state of vehicles being brought off the bridge on transporters, you have to think it's very lucky that no one was killed."
'Hazardous fog'
Ch Insp Andy Reeves said the crash was over a "protracted area" with undamaged vehicles between others which had collided.
When asked if the fog had caused the crash, Mr Reeves said it was "too early" to give a cause but added the "weather will be a factor".
"It was... very hazardous. It was described to me as a very thick fog and it was certainly low visibility at the time."
He said he expected the crossing to remain closed in both directions for the whole of the working day, including the evening rush hour.
The front of the crash happened where traffic was coming off the bridge towards Sittingbourne, and it had then "concertinaed" over the bridge behind it with incidents stretching back to Queenborough, he said.
Mr Reeves said there could also be a small number of incidents on the northbound carriageway.
Police said if people had to make essential journeys to the island they could use the old Kingsferry Bridge, but should expect long delays.
Sittingbourne and Sheppey MP Gordon Henderson said he had previously had concerns about lighting on the bridge and said he would be asking questions of the authorities about the accident.
He added: "Today my concerns must rest solely with the people that have been injured on the bridge."
The £100m four-lane crossing, which connects the Isle of Sheppey with mainland Kent, opened in 2006 and is 0.75 miles (1.25km) long and rises to 115ft (35m) at its highest point.
Almost seems absurd to the point of ridiculousness that 100+ vehicles could be involved in the same crash like this.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/05 13:32:39
Subject: Sheppey crossing crash: Dozens hurt as 130 vehicles crash
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/05 14:13:27
Subject: Sheppey crossing crash: Dozens hurt as 130 vehicles crash
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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Incredible no-one was killed at that speed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/05 14:18:11
Subject: Sheppey crossing crash: Dozens hurt as 130 vehicles crash
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Avatar of the Bloody-Handed God
Inside your mind, corrupting the pathways
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I very much doubt anyone was actually going 70mph
Though I do wonder how so many people just ploughed into the mess... with a 10-20 yard visibility I wouldn't be driving fast at all - came to work in visibility of maybe 30-50ft this morning and wasn't going anywhere near the speed limit (or how fast I would normally drive) for most of the trip.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/05 14:42:28
Subject: Sheppey crossing crash: Dozens hurt as 130 vehicles crash
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[SWAP SHOP MOD]
Yvan eht nioj
In my Austin Ambassador Y Reg
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Most of the time it is because idiots follow too close to the car in font, even in 'good' driving conditions, let alone a bit of fog or spray.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/05 14:46:58
Subject: Sheppey crossing crash: Dozens hurt as 130 vehicles crash
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Evasive Pleasureseeker
Lost in a blizzard, somewhere near Toronto
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filbert wrote:Most of the time it is because idiots follow too close to the car in font, even in 'good' driving conditions, let alone a bit of fog or spray.
And then immediately slam their breaks on when they see things going bad, thus locking everything up and helping them to simply skid into the giant mess and help it grow even bigger...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/05 15:05:51
Subject: Sheppey crossing crash: Dozens hurt as 130 vehicles crash
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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filbert wrote:Most of the time it is because idiots follow too close to the car in font, even in 'good' driving conditions, let alone a bit of fog or spray.
Yep. A hell of a lot of people do that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/05 15:36:58
Subject: Sheppey crossing crash: Dozens hurt as 130 vehicles crash
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Esteemed Veteran Space Marine
Sheppey, England
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I got through there about half an hour before it all kicked off. Visibility was appalling.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/05 17:33:45
Subject: Re:Sheppey crossing crash: Dozens hurt as 130 vehicles crash
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Chalice-Wielding Sanguinary High Priest
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I have relatives on the Isle, and I've been enough times to know the bridge they're talking about. I'm going to go ahead and blame commuters and visitors. It's possible there were one or two local idiots... but people on and around the Isle of Sheppey get enough wind and fog from being on the coast that they know when to slow up.
Hell, the place is known as a small island by people in a country that the rest of the world calls a small island. If everybody carpooled those 130 vehicles would probably exceed Sheppey's current population.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/06 16:09:16
Subject: Sheppey crossing crash: Dozens hurt as 130 vehicles crash
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Grey Knight Psionic Stormraven Pilot
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My older brother said that there was one good thing about the crash...
him and his friends could get free car parts (because he likes making cars go super low like an inch from the ground)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2013/09/06 19:17:14
Subject: Sheppey crossing crash: Dozens hurt as 130 vehicles crash
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Fixture of Dakka
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I hate driving in fog like that. I noticed the part where it said no one had lights approaching the crossing. I've driven in fog a few times where it's better to just have the running lights on than the headlights. No fun at all.
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