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I feel like that Soulblaze stratagem, if accurate, could let Rubrics do some real work, especially on Primaris marines. And an ability to swap units around has some interesting potential (or at least it does for Disciples of Tzeentch over in AoS).

I also wonder how these rules, if accurate, would interact with Magnus and Ahriman.

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As to the summoning thing, I think a good fix would be if there was a stratagem that said like "Once per game, at the start of your turn you can exchange 1 CP for 100 reserve points, or 3CP for 200 reserve points". This way at most you could only get like 200 points of "free" daemons (so no more than 10% of most games total points) and you have to give up CP to do it. I think this would be a much better balance, especially if GW got rid of the restriction on movement and summoning. Like someone said before me, if a unit could move and summon I would probably use summoning more now.
   
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 BoomWolf wrote:
I take this rumor to the salt mine, its practically identical to what some people (myself included) has written down as pure guesswork on this very thread.

The fact it would create a bookeeping nightmare furthers the fact its dubious.


Clearly you do not play Drukhari. Bookeeping nightmares have never stopped GW before!

"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"

"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"

"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"

"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!"  
   
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Brian888 wrote:
I feel like that Soulblaze stratagem, if accurate, could let Rubrics do some real work, especially on Primaris marines.

Ultimately an army that can inflict 2 wounds each has a lot going for it.
   
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Not sure if it's been mentioned here (can't find it anywhere) but Valrak has done a video in which he has information that relates to PA5 and PA6.

PA5 - Apparently Tau may be against Death Guard rather than GSC in their book (or perhaps both). Apparently on the Psychic Awakening galaxy map the Tau symbol appears near the location of the Startide Nexus which is also a place the Death Guard are headed to.

PA6 - Apparently the voice actor that did the voice over for "James Workshop" has a credit on his CV of voice-overs - "Saga of the Beast - Ghazghkull Mag Uruk Thraka - Games Workshop - Black Library - Matthew Renshaw". The assumption is that there's either a trailer with Ghazzy's voice in it or Valrak believes there's going to be an accompanying audio drama from Black Library with Saga of the Beast. So, if it wasn't abundantly clear already, Ghazzy is the Ork focus of Saga of the Beast. Valrak expects a new Ghazzy model because of this.
   
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 Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
Brian888 wrote:
I feel like that Soulblaze stratagem, if accurate, could let Rubrics do some real work, especially on Primaris marines.

Ultimately an army that can inflict 2 wounds each has a lot going for it.

Well played

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 An Actual Englishman wrote:


PA5 - Apparently Tau may be against Death Guard rather than GSC in their book (or perhaps both). Apparently on the Psychic Awakening galaxy map the Tau symbol appears near the location of the Startide Nexus which is also a place the Death Guard are headed to.



The Tau vs DG short story will probably post next week and there's another one with GSC in it by themselves. What if the book has all three? :]

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Gathering the Informations.

 Brometheus wrote:
 An Actual Englishman wrote:


PA5 - Apparently Tau may be against Death Guard rather than GSC in their book (or perhaps both). Apparently on the Psychic Awakening galaxy map the Tau symbol appears near the location of the Startide Nexus which is also a place the Death Guard are headed to.



The Tau vs DG short story will probably post next week and there's another one with GSC in it by themselves. What if the book has all three? :]

Or what if Tau vs DG is nothing but the usual nonsense, that keeps getting amplified?

There's art that got passed around with DG vs Tau, as if it was "proof" but it wasn't new.
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
 Brometheus wrote:
 An Actual Englishman wrote:


PA5 - Apparently Tau may be against Death Guard rather than GSC in their book (or perhaps both). Apparently on the Psychic Awakening galaxy map the Tau symbol appears near the location of the Startide Nexus which is also a place the Death Guard are headed to.



The Tau vs DG short story will probably post next week and there's another one with GSC in it by themselves. What if the book has all three? :]

Or what if Tau vs DG is nothing but the usual nonsense, that keeps getting amplified?

There's art that got passed around with DG vs Tau, as if it was "proof" but it wasn't new.


There is a "proof". On the website, the simbol of tau indicating a new anomaly has appeared... and it's in the north east of the galaxy, far above the empire.
It's possible it will be a threeway. Wasn't there a tweet stating tau would have more opponents?
   
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Gathering the Informations.

This is the only thing that GW officially have stated:
Shadowsun drops in alongside the release of book 5 of Psychic Awakening, titled “The Greater Good”, but we’ll have to wait a little bit longer before we find out who the T’au will be up against.


That symbol, by the way, is if you overlay the map of the Imperium from the main book on the world of "Kar Duniash".
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:

Or what if Tau vs DG is nothing but the usual nonsense, that keeps getting amplified?

There's art that got passed around with DG vs Tau, as if it was "proof" but it wasn't new.


I don't think seeing Tau vs. DG in Monday's upcoming short story for PA is nonsense. :] It's likely coming soon

See you back here on Monday hehe

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Gathering the Informations.

We'll see.

The short stories haven't been a 100% accurate indicator of anything--"Gift of Hope" for example is about Harlequins and yet Phoenix Rising didn't have 'em.
"The Weak and the Strong" had Astra Militarum, yet Blood of Baal didn't have 'em.
"Keeping Order" had Astra Militarum, yet Faith and Fury didn't have them.

I wouldn't be shocked if they shoehorn Death Guard in, but literally right now if you were to go and look at Valrak's own twitter feed at the time of the Open Day(which he was at), he says "Tau vs GSC" with no mention of Death Guard.
   
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That's all fair, friend.

This Tau story details them as a major and terrifying opponent, seemingly not only encountering them on planet combat but also in major space battles. If anything I'd be surprised it's GSC with those other two factions!

That would explain the genestealers in the background of that Open Day banner with Shadowsun, though, if we were taking it into consideration as a tease element.
   
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GSC and Death Guard actually have something in common from an adversary POV, both tend to attack you with insidious biological weapons So I could see them tossing them together agaisnt the Tau in some sort of horrific theme of "the Tau must purge their own while fighting the death guard and tau for the greater good"

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I like the idea of the Tau vs GSC vs DG set-up. It's one of the rare instances where none of the three would even consider the other two as temporary allies so basically all three want to wipe the other two out.

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 Jidmah wrote:
I like the idea of the Tau vs GSC vs DG set-up. It's one of the rare instances where none of the three would even consider the other two as temporary allies so basically all three want to wipe the other two out.

Yea, I also like it, not only for the reasons you've mentioned but also because each of the factions (arguably) represent a different side of the same thematic coin - each believe they are working for the "greater good" for one reason or another and all of them are completely brainwashed.
   
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BrianDavion wrote:
GSC and Death Guard actually have something in common from an adversary POV, both tend to attack you with insidious biological weapons So I could see them tossing them together agaisnt the Tau in some sort of horrific theme of "the Tau must purge their own while fighting the death guard and tau for the greater good"

So basically the tau would be dealing with a bit of a zombie outbreak from the dg and a bit of a "The Shadow Over Innsmouth" situation from gsc at the same time while having to deal with the actual opposing armies?

I like it.
   
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 An Actual Englishman wrote:
 Jidmah wrote:
I like the idea of the Tau vs GSC vs DG set-up. It's one of the rare instances where none of the three would even consider the other two as temporary allies so basically all three want to wipe the other two out.

Yea, I also like it, not only for the reasons you've mentioned but also because each of the factions (arguably) represent a different side of the same thematic coin - each believe they are working for the "greater good" for one reason or another and all of them are completely brainwashed.

That's actually awesomely true. Actually, it fits so well, it makes me think that GW couldn't possible have done that...

7 Ork facts people always get wrong:
Ragnar did not win against Thrakka, but suffered two crushing defeats within a few days of each other.
A lasgun is powerful enough to sever an ork's appendage or head in a single, well aimed shot.
Orks meks have a better understanding of electrics and mechanics than most Tech Priests.
Orks actually do not think that purple makes them harder to see. The joke was made canon by Alex Stewart's Caphias Cain books.
Gharkull Blackfang did not even come close to killing the emperor.
Orks can be corrupted by chaos, but few of them have any interest in what chaos offers.
Orks do not have the power of believe. 
   
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They could tie in the experiments Tau have been doing on genestealers (deathwatch: shadowbreaker) which would also tie in the ordo xenos as it was some within the ordo that gave the tau the specimens to work upon (operation blackseed).

One the of the experiment cells becomes compromised due to the psychic awakening, specimens escape and bam, we got an infestation on our hands.

For those have not read the book, it's implied that tau GSC hybrids don't develop the psychic connections, thus do not call the hive mind... I'd need to go back and read the book again but it's implied this can be useful against nids.

Never going to happen mind in PA but it would be cool. No idea how I could fit the DG into that.

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so PA4 is up for pre-order next saturday

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yeahhhh boi.

"Beyond the Startide Nexus" short story posts Monday along with GK article apparently.

TS tues.

DA wed

Time will tell if this is correct but safe bet

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 Brometheus wrote:
yeahhhh boi.

"Beyond the Startide Nexus" short story posts Monday along with GK article apparently.


Don't ...
   
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WarCom wrote:You can also build this model as a Primaris Master, armed with a bolt carbine with special issue ammunition and a power fist, including a helmeted option and a bare head with a bionic eye.


Nice that it can be built as a generic Primaris Master. But, I hope that is just an option and not restrictive. Because there is a power sword in the box, and it would be ridiculous if the Master can't take it and has to use the fist...

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Voss wrote:
WarCom wrote:You can also build this model as a Primaris Master, armed with a bolt carbine with special issue ammunition and a power fist, including a helmeted option and a bare head with a bionic eye.


Nice that it can be built as a generic Primaris Master. But, I hope that is just an option and not restrictive. Because there is a power sword in the box, and it would be ridiculous if the Master can't take it and has to use the fist...

We can already build a master with power sword and bolt rifle, or a master with gauntlet and plasma pistol. Now there is a third configuration, and I guess he has a bolt carbine and not a normal bolter simply to differentiate it from others.
   
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“Nice that it can be built as a generic Primaris Master. But, I hope that is just an option and not restrictive. Because there is a power sword in the box, and it would be ridiculous if the Master can't take it and has to use the fist...”


I’m assuming it’s in case you want the carbine and the sword and the carbine one is not locked into being with the fist.

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It’s just options at the end of the day.
Three heads.
Two left arm melee.
Two right arm, helmet one less useful depending..
   
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Ah, cool. A new Deathwatch Sergeant.

You guys keeping calling it a Dark Angels Primaris Captain, but for me it's a Deathwatch sergeant that needs a shoulderpad.

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MiguelFelstone wrote:
 Brometheus wrote:
yeahhhh boi.

"Beyond the Startide Nexus" short story posts Monday along with GK article apparently.


Don't ...


haha

   
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Well, ol Grey Knights been doing well at this weekend's Warhammer World Invitational Season Finale GT.


Spoiler:
   
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Sunny Side Up wrote:
Well, ol Grey Knights been doing well at this weekend's Warhammer World Invitational Season Finale GT.


Spoiler:


So you're saying there's a chance.

Not sure if hes running the same list he won with recently, but it's not mono GKs, It's a single detachment, barely over the threshold (Guard & Custodies allies), and that's only because he squeezed 3 GMNDs into a battalion.

Still, gives me hope.

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