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2013/10/09 14:25:39
Subject: Tank Heaven For Little Girls: Sororitas Predators, Oriflamme Scout Tanks, & Exorcist Ammo Options
I love Sisters. I love tanks. Given the lack of proper turreted main battle tanks in Sisters codices to date, these two loves have torn me in twain – but no longer!
[UPDATE: The final (?) versions of all these units -- and two dozen others -- are now in my Sororitas fandex/expandnex]
tl,dr: - Oriflamme Scout Tank: basically an underarmoured Hellhound that has BS:4 and can Scout (and therefore costs more). - Sororitas Predator: Basically a Predator Infernus that can upgrade to an Inferno Cannon (as on the IG Devil Dog) or, worse yet, an Avenger Bolt Cannon (yes, the thing that Navy strike fighters carry). - Exorcists get a host of alternative ammo options, including small blasts, Skyfire, extended range, and a short-range “melta missile” with Armourbane. - Firing flamers at Cruising Speed is back! (“Drive-By Purification” SR). - Laud Hailers are back! - 6++ save is no longer free (sorry) but can be bought as an upgrade (“Sacramental Armour”).
Constructive criticism is welcomed, vitriolic abuse is tolerated, and glowing compliments are encouraged.
The holy warriors of the Ecclesiarchy are taught that no assault on body, mind, or soul is greater than the power of the God-Emperor to protect -- or to damn -- and they repel their enemies' blows, both physical and psychic, with contempt. Every model with the Armour of Contempt special rule has a 6++ invulnerable save. Every unit in which more than half the models have Armour of Contempt gains a +1 bonus to Deny the Witch rolls. (This bonus is separate from, and cumulative with, Adamantium Will: A unit with both SRs would get +2 to Deny the Witch). However, no friendly psyker may ever use psychic powers on such a unit, and any friendly psyker within 6" suffers a -1 to psychic tests. Design note: Sisters vehicles do not get this for free under these proposed rules (sorry folks, but free 6++ was a steal); instead they must buy it as an upgrade.
Drive-By Purification
Spoiler:
The Sisters’ skill with flamer weapons is equalled only by that of the Space Marine Salamanders – and their zeal for martyrdom makes them willing to do things the long-lived Salamanders do not, such as firing flamers from fast-moving vehicles despite the risk of blowback. A vehicle with the Drive-By Purification special rule may fire one Template weapon when moving at Cruising Speed, but the weapon gains the Gets Hot! rule for that shot. (This rule does not apply to Fast vehicles).
An ancient design used during the Great Crusade but then lost for millennia until the Sisters recovered an STC and gave it to the Adeptus Mechanicus in exchange for exclusive rights to the vehicles produced, a similar arrangement to that with the Immolator. The two vehicles were the inspiration for the Imperial Guard’s Hellhound tanks. With its lighter armour and heavier suspension, however, the Oriflamme has superior cross-country mobility, enabling it to scout ahead of the main force and conduct wide flanking movements.
Unit Composition: 1 Oriflamme
Unit Type: Vehicle (Fast Tank)
Wargear: Melta Cannon (in turret) Twin-Linked Heavy Bolters (front of hull) Searchlight Smoke launchers
Special Rules: Scout
Options: May replace twin-linked heavy bolters with - Heavy flamer: free - Multi-melta: 15 points May replace Melta Cannon with an Inferno Cannon: 10 points May take any Sororitas vehicle upgrade (see below)
Design Notes: Basically an Imperial Guard Devil Dog (120 points) with - AV-1 on side: -10 points - BS+1: +20 points - Scout: +20 points - Upgrading from the Melta Cannon to the Inferno Gun costs +10 points, same as upgrading from a Devil Dog to a Hellhound, and from TL heavy bolters to a heavy flamer costs nothing, same as for the Hellhound family, because Drive-By Purification counterbalances the fact that the BS+1 doesn’t make a difference with flamer weapons.
The Sororitas fell in love with the Predator Infernus design at first sight, but over the centuries they have gotten the Adeptus Mechanicus to add more weaponry options. These include the powerful Avenger Bolt Cannon, namesake weapon of the Avenger Strike Fighter, whose effect on Frateris Templars in power armour made it a favorite weapon of Sebastian Thor’s forces in the Age of Apostasy. Sisters fondly nickname this extraordinary exemplar of bolter weaponry “the ABC gun,” “the alphabet cannon,” and “the Marinator” (for its effect on power-armoured Space Marines). When they first began to use it as a ground weapon is unclear, but there are several records of Sisters protecting Imperial Navy airbases under siege either salvaging Avenger cannon from wrecked fighters or, in at least one case, taxiing an Avenger to the base perimeter to repel attackers as a last-ditch defense. By M38, the Sisters were jury-rigging Avenger cannon to the Predator chassis, and by M40 they had convinced the Mechanicus to build a turreted version.
Unit Composition: 1 Sororitas Predator
Unit Type: Vehicle (Tank)
Wargear: Flamestorm Cannon (turret) Twin-linked heavy bolters (front of hull) Searchlight Smoke Launcher
Options: A Sororitas Predator may exchange its Flamestorm Cannon for - an Inferno Cannon: +10 points - a Magna Melta cannon: +30 points - an Avenger Bolt Cannon: +30 points May replace twin-linked heavy bolters with - Heavy flamer: free - Multi-melta: 15 points May take a pair of sponsons with - Heavy Flamers: 20 points - Heavy Bolters: 20 points - Multi-Meltas: 30 points A Sororitas Predator may take any Sororitas vehicle upgrade (see below).
Design notes: Basically a Predator Infernus with better weaponry options.
Exorcist alternative ammunition Any Exorcist may load its Exorcist Missile Launcher with one and only one of the following types of ammunition, changing the weapon’s profile:
Spoiler:
- Frag missiles: 48" S:4 AP:4 Heavy 1D6, Blast: free - Skyfire missiles: 48" S:7 AP:5 Heavy 1D6, Skyfire, Interceptor: 15 points - Melta missiles: 12"-36" S:8 AP:1 Heavy 1D6, Armourbane: 15 points - Long-range missiles: 60" S:4 AP:4 Heavy 1D6: 15 points An Exorcist may take any Sororitas Vehicle Upgrade (see below)
Design Note: Pricing is frankly a SWAG on these options. The “melta missile” has a minimum range and a short maximum range because I conceive of it as not being able to ignite its melta effect until well clear of the launcher and then burning out quickly.
Rear Armour Bustle: +15 points The Sisters’ entire inventory of vehicles is based on the Predator chassis, which is notoriously under-armoured in back: A defect that is tolerable for fast-moving Space Marines is too dangerous in the close-quarters urban warfare often waged by the Sisters of Battle, where a heretic with a krak grenade or directional mine can all too easily sneak up on a vehicle from behind. Accordingly, Ecclesiarchical technicans frequently modify Sororitas vehicles with additional armour plating on the back: The distinctive bump made by this crude modification is nicknamed a “bustle.” The Adeptus Mechanicus and Astartes Techmarines considers this heresy because the extra armour traps heat from the engine, reducing service life and potentially causing breakdowns at high speed. A vehicle with a Rear Armour Bustle gains +1 AV on the rear but must roll 1d6 whenever it moves Flat-Out: On a roll of 1, the vehicle is immobilized.
Sacramental Armour: +15 points Lavishly decorated with pious paintings, symbols, and the embedded bones of saints, this armour gives Sororitas vehicles the same spiritual protection as their infantry. The vehicle gains the Armour of Contempt special rule.
Laud Hailer: +20 points All enemy units within 6” of the vehicle suffer -1 to all Leadership tests; all friendly units gain +1.
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2013/10/09 15:27:50
Subject: Tank Heaven For Little Girls: Sororitas Predators, Oriflamme Scout Tanks, & Exorcist Ammo Options
Thanks, Kalashnikov -- that's one of my favorite weapons too (you can bury it in sand, retrieve it years later, clean it, & it still fires!), a fine example of Russian engineering, but even better is the T-34/85, the best tank of World War II.....
All good points... including a whoops on my part with costing.
As for why no free 6++: Because no other army gets a free save on its tanks -- as long as the Sisters tank selections were horribly limited , free 6++ seemed a reasonable consolation prize, but with a proper tank inventory, it seems a bit much. Also "Armour of Contempt" includes a Deny the Witch bonus, not just 6++, so it's worth more.
Very good point about sponsons being the go-to for Predators' secondary weapons -- I'm probably thinking too much in WWII and modern terms, where every MBT has coaxial and/or hull-mounted MGs, but arguably I should nix that....
Thanks all! Keep the critiques coming, I learn from every one.
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2013/10/09 18:43:37
Subject: Tank Heaven For Little Girls: Sororitas Predators, Oriflamme Scout Tanks, & Exorcist Ammo Options
Lots of good ideas here. I'll definitely drop the hull-mounted heavy bolters on the Predator and stick to sponsons (and those are optional, by the way), and I'll probably drop the "gets hot" bit in the "Drive-By Purification" rule.
I'll still tempted by the AV+1 to rear armor upgrade, though. There's definitely a precedent in some of the Leman Russ variants -- although of course that's a significantly bigger tank.
Also, it still strikes me as odd that vehicles get a 6++ for free: That makes a Sororitas Rhino, for example, significantly better than a Marine Rhino that costs the same number of points.
For infantry models, the benefit of army-wide special rules is supposed to be considered towards their points cost, right? So why not for vehicles? Or do I truly misunderstand how that works?
2013/10/09 19:02:27
Subject: Tank Heaven For Little Girls: Sororitas Predators, Oriflamme Scout Tanks, & Exorcist Ammo Options
I started life as a copy-editor and then married one, so I appreciate the importance of stamping out typos. (My current editor, on the other hand....). Fixed it now.
2013/10/10 11:31:45
Subject: Tank Heaven For Little Girls: Sororitas Predators, Oriflamme Scout Tanks, & Exorcist Ammo Options
I spent a fair bit of time trying to figure out the length of the Avenger cannon and whether it could fit in a turret, actually -- if anyone has an Avenger fighter model and could measure that'd be very helpful, I couldn't figure out from pics whether it went most of the length of the aircraft (as on its inspiration the A-10) or not. That would determine if it's turretable.
And the Sisters definitely need an assault transport, albeit not a Marine-only monster like the Land Raider.
I'm not sure the Repressor works as a chassis for either , though, since the engine is presumably in front, which blocks any assault ramp or a forward-firing cannon....
2013/10/10 13:11:21
Subject: Tank Heaven For Little Girls: Sororitas Predators, Oriflamme Scout Tanks, & Exorcist Ammo Options
Many good points (and doh is me about Furyou's Repressor variant not having "assault vehicle," I read that before I had my coffee...).
1.
I don't have access to a Dark Angels codex, but the Avenger I'm talking about is an Imperial Navy flier I've only seen in Imperial Armour Aeronautica thus far; the gun is basically a super heavy bolter with 36" range and 7 shots. (Mods, please note, I did not give away all the stats there, you'd have to reference an official publication for Strength and AP).
2.
As for engines blocking guns and ramps, once again I'm thinking too much in terms of modern AFVs with fossil-fuel engines and bulky transmissions. Heck, even the Army's prototype hybrid-electric Future Combat System AFV had two engines, one on each side above the track.
3.
And bustles make sense as an automatic upgrade from the standard Predator, without the finicky little rule about potential immobilization. That makes it worth a few more points, since you can now Flat Out without fear.
4.
The standard Predator options don't fit the Sisters: they don't use autocannons or lascannons.
Finally, I realize the many Brits on this board may misinterpret me because of our not-quite-shared language. When I say someone's ideas are "interesting," I mean that in the American sense of "I am interested in what you say and it may change my thinking on this matter," not in the English sense of "your remarks are so imbecilic that I wish you an agonizing death but am I too well-bred to say so." I had a lovely English girlfriend (Northerner) long ago and she was stricken when I told her something she said was "interesting."
2013/10/10 17:12:19
Subject: Tank Heaven For Little Girls: Sororitas Predators, Oriflamme Scout Tanks, & Exorcist Ammo Options
Farseer Faenyin wrote: I think an Outflanking Hellhound is a little over the top, but that's just me. :-P
I believe by "a little over the top" you mean to say "FETHING AWESOME HOOAAAH."
Also, see point about Creed outflanking three of them at a time.
I actually originally conceived this vehicle as fire support for Scouting/Outflanking Dominions in Immolators, by the way. Because a girl can never have too much FIRE.
ClockworkZion wrote: The Avenger Bolt Cannon (on the Avenger) is around 2" counting the "plug" bit on the back used for mounting it.
Yep, that's the gun I'm talking about. Even assuming the model part represents only half the gun, and the half is fully inside the fuseleage, that sounds like a weapon that can fit in a Predator turret. Maybe a weirdly shaped Predator turret with an extended back that overhangs (e.g. like the current US Army M1 Abrams), but doable.
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2013/10/10 18:38:42
Subject: Tank Heaven For Little Girls: Sororitas Predators, Oriflamme Scout Tanks, & Exorcist Ammo Options
Yeah, the Megabolter is way bigger and has not only more range but significantly better S and AP than standard bolter weapons (I believe the Avenger has the same S & AP as heavy bolters).
It's also worth noting that the real-life A-10's GAU is a tank-buster, while the Avenger fighter's ABC is not, it's a power-armoured-infantry murderer. So it may well be smaller relative to the aircraft carrying it.
So the Avenger Bolt Cannon ("the alphabet gun") should fit in a tank turret, though arguably you should convert your Predators with a bigger turret than the standard bitty one.
2013/10/10 21:33:24
Subject: Tank Heaven For Little Girls: Sororitas Predators, Oriflamme Scout Tanks, & Exorcist Ammo Options
That's right, Clockwork! Murdering Marines is everybody's job!
KIDS: Now we know!
SISTER JO: And knowing is half the battle!
It's not just "Marines the Ecclesiarchy and/or Ordo Hereticus has a beef with," either. It's renegade Chapters and fething Traitor Legions, some of which have a particular fondness for defiling holy sites (yes, I'm looking at you, Word Bearers). That is a lot of Sv3+ Sisters have to deal with. AP 4 Firestorm cannon and AMBs don't hack it as heavy infantry killers.
Cutting the ABC's range to 24" in the tank-mounted version I could live with, though, as a balance thing and to keep with the "come with two feet and we will fething end you" theme of the army. Fluffwise you could say the barrel has to be cut down to fit in the tank so you lose range.
Blast artillery seems out of keeping with the army, though, Automaki: A shortage of blasts is one of the Sisters' defining weaknesses, like S3 T3, and I'm leery of over correcting at the cost of army character and game balance.
On the other hand your friend's TL infernos look appropriately terrifying.
And, Nevelon, upgrading your tanks to have a Rending AOF? Yes please.
2013/10/10 23:39:04
Subject: Tank Heaven For Little Girls: Sororitas Predators, Oriflamme Scout Tanks, & Exorcist Ammo Options
Melta missiles: 12"-36" S:8 AP:1 Heavy 1D6, Armourbane: 15 points
Anyone else thing that d6 S8 AP1 armourbane shots is way too over the top? Thats enough firepower to kill numerous land raiders per turn, if it were able to split the shots
You do realise that they're just slapping Armourbane and reducing the range from the regular Exorcist missile launcher, right? It already fires d6 S8 AP1 shots at 48", BS4.
Reducing the range and adding a minimum range -- the melta missiles don't arm until 12", so the Exorcist is effectively disarmed at short range.
That said, they are pretty fricking terrifying in that 12"-36" range band, so I'm willing to listen to arguments that they're OP.
2013/10/11 02:01:41
Subject: Tank Heaven For Little Girls: Sororitas Predators, Oriflamme Scout Tanks, & Exorcist Ammo Options
Haighus wrote: Although I'm also of the opinion that auto weapons are very similar to bolt weapons, and that macro cannons and autocannons are OK for SoB.
Auto weapons are basically souped-up machineguns. Boltguns fire miniature rockets with explosive warheads. Way more OTT.
AtoMaki wrote: Technically, the eradicator nova cannon fires a melta bomb that explodes into an inferno cannon. You can't have a better weapon for the Sisters than this !
That.... sounds appealing. Where are the rules for that one again? Codex:Imperial Guard 5th edition?
2013/10/12 01:09:54
Subject: Tank Heaven For Little Girls: Sororitas Predators, Oriflamme Scout Tanks, & Exorcist Ammo Options
Ah, "I had the technology somewhere around here, I just put it down, really, where did it go, dammit, honestly I'd lose me own 'ead if it weren't attached..." aspect of 40K.
2013/10/12 02:42:16
Subject: Re:Tank Heaven For Little Girls: Sororitas Predators, Oriflamme Scout Tanks, & Exorcist Ammo Options
TheSaintofKilllers wrote: Back on topic, this is giving the sisters non ApocIG levels of tanks. Which is silly. So the point still stands...
Guard can squadron their tanks at 3 per slot, 9 per detachment. Sisters under these rules, like the Marines, get 1 per slot, 3 per detachment. Not the same.
Thanks for posting those rules, Melissia. It looks like the big differences between our Fast Tanks are that mine has Scout (and therefore costs more) while yours can take sponsons and can squadron.
I'm not at all sure about sponsons on a light tank, and while I once argued for Sisters tank squadrons, I've been convinced that's a bad idea that doesn't translate well from Imperial Guard to Sisters. Conversely, as people have pointed out in this thread, my giving these things Scout may be over the top too....
Otherwise in terms of weapons and armor, they're nigh-identical - except for your neat super-heavy bolter idea.
As for your drop ship, I'll have to get to my copy of Imperial Guard 5th edition to compare with the Valkyrie before I can make intelligent detailed comments. It's clearly cheaper but also less well armed. Also I think the Valkyrie is Fast, which yours doesn't seem to have -- is that an oversight or intentional?
2013/10/12 18:49:26
Subject: Tank Heaven For Little Girls: Sororitas Predators, Oriflamme Scout Tanks, & Exorcist Ammo Options
But (a) I've never even read the Grey Knights codex and (b) we are drifting dangerously off topic. Let's agree it's a shame and frankly implausible that GK don't get proper turreted tanks, same as the Sisters to date, and go back to fixing the Sisters' list. If someone wants to make a GK Predator with Aegis, psychic powers, and autocannon rounds made entirely from the souls of orphan children, that would be an awesome topic for another thread.
[Edited repeatedly to fix typos and unclosed tags. I'm doing this on a tiny iPhone screen in the corner of an antique shop while my beloved wife browses....]
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2013/10/12 19:50:24
Subject: Tank Heaven For Little Girls: Sororitas Predators, Oriflamme Scout Tanks, & Exorcist Ammo Options
Automatically Appended Next Post: I'm going to take everyone's suggestions and rewrite the tanks shortly, but in the meantime, um, I made some Sororitas bikers and stuff, please check it out -- everyone here has been helpful and I'd love your help over there.
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2013/10/20 15:26:31
Subject: Tank Heaven For Little Girls: Sororitas Predators, Oriflamme Scout Tanks, & Exorcist Ammo Options
I've revised my tanks to incorporate many of the good comments in this thread & to bring them in line with the new digital Codex, where apparently Shield of Faith on a Rhino costs 5 points.
In brief:
- Oriflamme Scout Tank: basically an underarmoured Hellhound that has BS:4 and can Scout (and therefore costs more).
- Sororitas Predator: Basically a Predator Infernus that can upgrade to an Inferno Cannon (as on the IG Devil Dog) or, worse yet, a cut-down, shorter-ranged version of the Avenger Bolt Cannon (yes, the thing that Navy strike fighters carry).
- Exorcists get a host of alternative ammo options, including small blasts, Skyfire, extended range, and a short-range “melta missile” with Armourbane.
- Firing flamers at Cruising Speed is back! (“Drive-By Purification” SR).
Army Special Rule:
Drive-By Purification Adepta Sororitas tank gunners are masters of high-speed flamer shots. Any Adepta Sororitas Tank that is not a Fast vehicle may fure one Template weapon when moving at Cruising Speed
(Yes, this applies to the Immolator. Have fun!}
An ancient design used during the Great Crusade but then lost for millennia until the Sisters recovered an STC and gave it to the Adeptus Mechanicus in exchange for exclusive rights to the vehicles produced, a similar arrangement to that with the Immolator. The two vehicles were the inspiration for the Imperial Guard’s Hellhound tanks. With its lighter armour and heavier suspension, however, the Oriflamme has superior cross-country mobility, enabling it to scout ahead of the main force and conduct wide flanking movements.
Unit Composition:
1 Oriflamme
Unit Type:
Vehicle (Fast Tank)
Wargear:
Melta Cannon (in turret)
Heavy Flamer (front of hull)
Searchlight
Smoke launchers
Special Rules:
Fast
Scout
Options:
May replace heavy flamer with
- Twin-linked heavy bolters: 5 points
- Multi-melta: 15 points
May replace Melta Cannon with an Inferno Cannon: free
May take items from the Adepta Sororitas Vehicle Equipment List.
Design Notes:
Basically an Imperial Guard Devil Dog (120 points) with
- AV-1 on side: -10 points
- BS+1: +20 points
- Scout: +20 points
- Upgrading from the Melta Cannon to the Inferno Cannon costs nothing, unlike the +10 points to upgrade from a Devil Dog to a Hellhound, because the Inferno Gun is a template weapon and therefore makes your BS+1 much less useful
- Replacing the heavy flamer with TL heavy bolters, conversely, counts as a slight upgrade -- unlike for the Hellhound family -- because it allows you another weapon with which to use that BS+1.
The Sororitas fell in love with the Predator Infernus design at first sight, but over the centuries they have gotten the Adeptus Mechanicus to add more weaponry options. These include the powerful Avenger Bolt Cannon, namesake weapon of the Avenger Strike Fighter, whose effect on Frateris Templars in power armour made it a favorite weapon of Sebastian Thor’s forces in the Age of Apostasy. Sisters fondly nickname this extraordinary exemplar of bolter weaponry “the ABC gun,” “the alphabet cannon,” and “the Marinator” (for its effect on power-armoured Space Marines). When they first began to use it as a ground weapon is unclear.
but there are several records of Sisters protecting Imperial Navy airbases under siege either salvaging Avenger cannon from wrecked fighters or, in at least one case, taxiing an Avenger to the base perimeter to repel attackers as a last-ditch defense.
By early M38, the Sisters were jury-rigging cut-down Avenger cannons to modified Predator Infernus tanks. By M39 they had convinced the Mechanicus to build a turreted version with additional armour on the rear -- similar to the Demolisher and other "siege" versions of the Leman Russ -- to protect the tank in the close-quarters urban purification operations often conducted by the Sisters.
Options:
A Sororitas Predator may exchange its Flamestorm Cannon for
- an Inferno Cannon [see BRBpg. 56]: +5 points
- a Magna Melta cannon [see Forgeworld rules]: +30 points
- a short-barrelled Avenger Bolt Cannon (see below): +30 points
May replace twin-linked heavy bolters with
- Heavy flamer: free
- Multi-melta: 15 points
May take a pair of sponsons with
- Heavy Flamers: 20 points
- Heavy Bolters: 20 points
- Multi-Meltas: 30 points
May take items from the Adepta Sororitas Vehicle Equipment List.
Short-barreled Avenger Bolt Cannon:
The Avenger Strike Fighter's ABC runs much of the length of the fuselage and, even after moving the ammo feed and other mechanisms to the side, is simply too long for a Predator tank turret. Accordingly, the Ecclesiarchy -- and more importantly the Ecclesiarchy's money -- has persuaded a reluctant Mechanicus to build a short-barrel version that is less unwieldy, at the price of shorter range.
Range: 24" Strength:6 AP:3 Heavy 7
Design notes:
Basically a Predator Infernus with better weaponry options and +10 point cost for Shield of Faith and an extra point of rear armour.
Exorcist alternative ammunition Any Exorcist may load its Exorcist Missile Launcher with one and only one of the following types of ammunition, changing the weapon’s profile:
Spoiler:
- Frag missiles: 48" S:4 AP:4 Heavy 1D6, Blast: free
- Skyfire missiles: 48" S:7 AP:5 Heavy 1D6, Skyfire, Interceptor: 15 points
- Melta missiles: 12"-36" S:8 AP:1 Heavy 1D6, Armourbane: 15 points
- Long-range missiles: 60" S:4 AP:4 Heavy 1D6: 15 points
An Exorcist may take any Sororitas Vehicle Upgrade (see below)
Design Note:
Pricing is frankly a SWAG on these options. The “melta missile” has a minimum range and a short maximum range because I conceive of it as not being able to ignite its melta effect until well clear of the launcher and then burning out quickly.
2014/01/20 23:52:28
Subject: Re:Tank Heaven For Little Girls: Sororitas Predators, Oriflamme Scout Tanks, & Exorcist Ammo Options
Old thread, mate. My homebrew Sororitas assualt vehicle -- also called "Deliverer" but more like a scaled-down Land Raider than a beefed-up Rhino -- is here:
[Edited because apparently I've spent so much time writing about military stuff on my iPhone that it autocorrected my original typo for "over" to "ISR."]
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