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brisbane, australia

I have a friend,a very very catholic friend, who, recently revealed to our "group" that, due to them not being mentioned in the bible book, doesn't. Believe. In DINOSAURS! you heard right.
*smashes head on school desk multiple times ( I did this when she/he told us)*
so, I must ask, do any of you caths share this mind set?

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Catholics aren't biblical fundamentalists. Your friend is on his own on that.

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In this defense, dinosaurs don't exist. To quote Newt from Aliens: "they're dead all right, can I go now?"

I too miss our coconut eating TRex friends.

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Nope, But many catholics/christians do. It involves that "If it doesnt make sense in my narrow world view, it is not real" Ideal f christians

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So he doesn't believe in Kangaroos either then

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brisbane, australia

 Frazzled wrote:
In this defense, dinosaurs don't exist. To quote Newt from Aliens: "they're dead all right, can I go now?"

I too miss our coconut eating TRex friends.

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 Yak9UT wrote:
So he doesn't believe in Kangaroos either then

The scary thing is that I don't know the answer to this question :(

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 Yak9UT wrote:
So he doesn't believe in Kangaroos either then


Or crocodiles. Or Turtles.

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Show him the passage in an older bible verse about jesus going toe to toe with a dragon. Then see if he thinks dragons are real

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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Show him the passage in an older bible verse about jesus going toe to toe with a dragon. Then see if he thinks dragons are real

I need to read this "bible". The thing is, no offence to Catholics, but I would probably end up giggling for a week.

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Im cathloc and I do too.
There are some good life lessons though if you get past the stoning of non-virgins

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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Show him the passage in an older bible verse about jesus going toe to toe with a dragon. Then see if he thinks dragons are real


This could have more dangerous repercussions than desired.

In Psych of Religion as an exercise we had one group play the fundamentalist Christians and one group play the everyone else in a discussion on evolution. I, being a well educated man of science, thought that I could formulate an argument the fundamentalists couldn't defend against.

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Dinosaurs never existed, their fossils were put in the earth by God to test the faith of his children. True believers know that the earth is only about 6000 years old, and anything older than that is a lie.

Except Frazz, Frazz is older than dirt.

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brisbane, australia

 xole wrote:
 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Show him the passage in an older bible verse about jesus going toe to toe with a dragon. Then see if he thinks dragons are real


This could have more dangerous repercussions than desired.

In Psych of Religion as an exercise we had one group play the fundamentalist Christians and one group play the everyone else in a discussion on evolution. I, being a well educated man of science, thought that I could formulate an argument the fundamentalists couldn't defend against.

I was wrong.


I attempted to ask her to explain her religion and he/she slapped me, twice, in my face, painfully, twice.

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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Nope, But many catholics/christians do. It involves that "If it doesnt make sense in my narrow world view, it is not real" Ideal f christians


Unequivocal horsegak. We live about 25 minutes from a very conservative Christian founded "creation museum" and one of their biggest exhibits ever was about about dinosaurs and they presently have one about dragons.

They may not believe in evolution, but to say they don't believe dinosaurs existed is an outright falsehood.

 
   
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Norwich

Why on earth wouldn't they 'believe' in dinosaurs?

Catholicism doesn't teach the old testament literally. Dinosaurs existed, nothing in the New Testament suggests otherwise. What an odd thing to think.
I think you should suggest a new branch of the Christian Church, they should be a fundamentalist not a Catholic if they are that crazy...

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 xole wrote:
 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Show him the passage in an older bible verse about jesus going toe to toe with a dragon. Then see if he thinks dragons are real


This could have more dangerous repercussions than desired.

In Psych of Religion as an exercise we had one group play the fundamentalist Christians and one group play the everyone else in a discussion on evolution. I, being a well educated man of science, thought that I could formulate an argument the fundamentalists couldn't defend against.

I was wrong.


See, this is why you never argue with crazy people.

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According to Wikipedia, the roman catholic church "believes" in evolutionary creationism (broadly speaking, the view that evolution is real and was started by God). However, individual catholics are free to disbelieve in evolution. Presumably it isn't an important point theologically.

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Seriously, the Bill Maher attitude toward anyone religious or faithful is insulting. It doesn't reflect well on anyone that espouses it.

 
   
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brisbane, australia

 cincydooley wrote:
Seriously, the Bill Maher attitude toward anyone religious or faithful is insulting. It doesn't reflect well on anyone that espouses it.

Um? What does that mean?

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Just because you have issue with some of faith, does not mean you have issue with all of faith, and are attacking all as such.

I'm surprised Frazzled hasn't done his whole religious persecution complex act yet. Hurry it up man!

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 the shrouded lord wrote:
I attempted to ask her to explain her religion and he/she slapped me, twice, in my face, painfully, twice.


Looks like Dinosaurs aren't the only ambiguous thing here... O.O

Also, I think it was a webcomic from ages ago, but my favourite response to this has always been "What's there to believe in? We can go to the museum and see some right now."

Also also, reptiles, birds, some horrors from the oceans, etc.

Also also also, I thought it was the devil that put fossils in the ground to test us? I may have that backwards, however.
   
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 TheDraconicLord wrote:
 Yak9UT wrote:
So he doesn't believe in Kangaroos either then


Or crocodiles. Or Turtles.


Crocodiles are in the Old Testament, in Egypt. I'm sure turtles are in there somewhere too, but I'm a bit more fuzzy on that one.

OP, your friend is nuts, by the way. Especially if she hit you for asking her to explain her religion. Most religious fanatics WANT to spread their message and feed it to anyone willing (or unwilling, for that matter) to listen. The fact that she hit you when you asked her to do just that is a show she's as crazy as the Joker. Expect Fruity Pebbles laced with arsenic for a birthday present.

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brisbane, australia

 Forar wrote:
 the shrouded lord wrote:
I attempted to ask her to explain her religion and he/she slapped me, twice, in my face, painfully, twice.


Looks like Dinosaurs aren't the only ambiguous thing here... O.O

Also, I think it was a webcomic from ages ago, but my favourite response to this has always been "What's there to believe in? We can go to the museum and see some right now."

Also also, reptiles, birds, some horrors from the oceans, etc.

Also also also, I thought it was the devil that put fossils in the ground to test us? I may have that backwards, however.

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 the shrouded lord wrote:
 cincydooley wrote:
Seriously, the Bill Maher attitude toward anyone religious or faithful is insulting. It doesn't reflect well on anyone that espouses it.

Um? What does that mean?


It means don't be a dick.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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brisbane, australia

 MrDwhitey wrote:
Just because you have issue with some of faith, does not mean you have issue with all of faith, and are attacking all as such.

I'm surprised Frazzled hasn't done his whole religious persecution complex act yet. Hurry it up man!

I don't have a problem with Catholics as long as they are willing to discuss it further than "NO! JEDUS WILL JUDGE YOUR FLESH UNWORTHY"
speaking of which, I remember how much I used to piss off the RE teacher in grade 6 by asking about the passage in the bible ( that's bib-ll) where it says Christ will return to iirc "judge the flesh of all mankind"


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 Frazzled wrote:
 the shrouded lord wrote:
 cincydooley wrote:
Seriously, the Bill Maher attitude toward anyone religious or faithful is insulting. It doesn't reflect well on anyone that espouses it.

Um? What does that mean?


It means don't be a dick.

Explain.

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 timetowaste85 wrote:
 TheDraconicLord wrote:
 Yak9UT wrote:
So he doesn't believe in Kangaroos either then


Or crocodiles. Or Turtles.


Crocodiles are in the Old Testament, in Egypt. I'm sure turtles are in there somewhere too, but I'm a bit more fuzzy on that one.

OP, your friend is nuts, by the way. Especially if she hit you for asking her to explain her religion. Most religious fanatics WANT to spread their message and feed it to anyone willing (or unwilling, for that matter) to listen. The fact that she hit you when you asked her to do just that is a show she's as crazy as the Joker. Expect Fruity Pebbles laced with arsenic for a birthday present.


I'm thinking there's a lot more to this story then is being told. But if the face slapping line is forming I'll get my lead pipe. (cookies to who catches that).

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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I don't think we need to be discussing any religion or belief in broad strokes, as many people hold different views, even with small groups like a single congregation.

The individual in the OP, frankly, is likely a lost cause if they went so far as to slap you for asking them to explain their beliefs. If they respond to mere questioning with violence, even if they didn't mean to cause long term harm, then I can only imagine they'd totally ignore any scientific data on the issue.

If you are feeling particularly noble you could compile the necessary research on how fossils are made and their dating procedures, and similar things, and present them, but again, it's likely to be ignored.

I'm reminded of this Happle Tea comic.
www.happletea.com/2013/04/09/the-devils-handiwork/
   
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It means don't be a dick.

Explain.


Really, that has to be explained to you? OK, I'll clarify. It sounds like you're being the sterotypical dick teenager. Don't be a dick.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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brisbane, australia

 Frazzled wrote:

It means don't be a dick.

Explain.


Really, that has to be explained to you? OK, I'll clarify. It sounds like you're being the sterotypical dick teenager. Don't be a dick.


again, explain. I don't understand what I've said that is "dickish" already I can see your clearly religious and would be happy to compete in friendly debate, further than "don't be a dick"

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I thought most groups that were biblical literalists consider the monsters alluded to in Genesis to be dinosaurs and other extinct creatures.

Catholicism generally doesn't engender the more fundamentalist types, but those that do emerge can be quite off putting.
   
 
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