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Sponge is a useless item, a relic. It used to soak up water, but now it's just for decoration.

Yeah if you watch the EXP bar it goes up when the green orbs are collected.

I'm kind of getting ideas about the NPC villages.

I'm also liking the bow changes, would make them a easier to use.

Hi guys. While playing SSP today, I had an incredible stroke of luck.



While wandering around in my airship, I stumbled across a small group of horsies (I use the yogbox), and among them, two untamed pegasus(es?)! Please note that there is only 0,1% chance of finding two untamed pegasus(esisosus?) in the same group of horses with this mod.

Of course, I quickly proceeded to capture those two flying horses.

Huh. I may have a bit of bad news.

Apparently, in order to get the benefits of 1.8, you will need to start a new game. That little gem was taken from an interview with Notch, or rather a brief snippet. At that point, they were discussing the new biome features of rives, dungeons, and ravines. Now, I am unsure whether or not they were saying the areas you have already explored won't change at all in your current worlds, only new, unexplored areas will have the new treats, or possibly your entire save won't get any of the new things. I guess we'll have to see.

ghosty wrote:Apparently, in order to get the benefits of 1.8, you will need to start a new game.

I really hope this isn't correct.

So do I, I can't slowly build an NPC village up into a city if they don't spawn.

if it turns out to be correct it will just be a day long project of creating a new map and then importing the old dakka map on top of it

So you'd have an overworld, and an underworld of permanent night below? That'd be cool. Not very nice for the NPCs, though.

I think a new map might b good, we are pretty spread out int a bunch of small groups doing our own thing

I would be fine with a new map if important things were ported over.

Hey, trust me when I say that the Dakka server is far, far from the worst in that regards.

The server I migrated from, KFPerin's SMP (which is a bit of a misnomer- the Creepers are nerfed and some of the maps are on peaceful!) has literally dozens of towns set thousands and thousands of meters away from each other- and most of them are single-time constructions; someone finds a cool place, goes "I'ma gonna build a town here!", and all the other players warp there, build a town, each builds a little house on a protected plot of land, then they go off to the next major town. I was trying to build a community railway to make it easier on Newbs (who haven't ranked up enough for warps or even Water usage!) to explore, maybe choose a town to settle in, but I was pretty much doing it by myself, and ended up using multiple inventories of Cobble just for the roadway.

About the only good thing about that server is that they have really nice roadways.

Yeah, the important stuff, of which there is alot, would need moving:

-The Manor
-The Museum
-Gooda's Hall
-Brandy Wine
-Vinnies Mansion
-Arcadia
-The Eyrie
-My Soon To Be Anounced Secret Project
Ect...

RaptorsTallon wrote:Yeah, the important stuff, of which there is alot, would need moving:

-The Manor
-The Museum
-Gooda's Hall
-Brandy Wine
-Vinnies Mansion
-Arcadia
-The Eyrie
-My Soon To Be Anounced Secret Project
Ect...

pretty much all the communities, large projects, and the railway system (nether and normal), the sanc, plus everyone's homes.
I'd quite like a couple of my old homes too, the honeydew, ye olde creeper magnet.

RaptorsTallon wrote:Yeah, the important stuff, of which there is alot, would need moving:

-The Manor
-The Museum
-Gooda's Hall
-Brandy Wine
-Vinnies Mansion
-Arcadia
-The Eyrie
-My Soon To Be Anounced Secret Project
Ect...

You mean we would need to rebuild all those stuff in a new server? It's gonna take ages! (though I wouldn't mind rebuilding my mansion... bigger, cooler and even more luxurious )

Yeah, rebuilding something on the scale of the mansion would take forever.
I hope it is a sort of copy and paste process. Because the land generation will be different so things in hills, on mountains, on flatland ect won't be in the same place.

While it would certainly be a shame to lose those things on a hypothetical new server, I think I would still go for it. A clean slate would be the perfect opportunity to improve on some areas the current server falls down on, like navigability and tidiness of the start area.

Tbh I think a new server would be good. It would allow, as Dread said, the map to be tidier and such. However since there has been a great increase in the amount of people on the server it could still go to hell.

I myself would probly just head off in a random direction and set up somewhere far away, maybe say 3 or 4 MC days away. Just to stay out the way lol. I will build a portal of w/e to stay connected to the community though.

The only problem with a new server is the massive amount of work people have put into the old one.
To start again after everything we have done...

It's part of what Minecraft is about.

And it's possible to keep the old map, in the old edition. Though I'm not sure about server space or cost.

In any case, anyone spreading out? Make sure you have a clearly marked pathway. Anyone doing something in the Spawntown, make a road or path first, then start building your house or cobble machine or whatever.

Also, might be a good idea to design the roads with something like an underlevel for a minecart track, even before we add any minecarts. Certainly easier than adding it after the fact.

And speaking of Cobble, anyone want some? I'm gonna be getting tons of the stuff.

Thing is, I have gathered many stacks of iron and redstone and many diamond, and I don't want to lose all of what I have put hours into collecting.
As I said before, people have put weeks of hard effot into projects, like the manor and goodas hall.

Prehaps if we made plans of all the important stuff and recreated it on the new map, out of materials given to us by Ops, it would be OK.

I think what the Ops and Mods were meaning to do, though, was use WorldEdit to pull the important stuff out, then plunk it back into the newly created world.

To be honest if we started a new map without the manor I would only log in to check out what people had done and talk a bit.

johnscott10 wrote:Tbh I think a new server would be good. It would allow, as Dread said, the map to be tidier and such. However since there has been a great increase in the amount of people on the server it could still go to hell.

I myself would probly just head off in a random direction and set up somewhere far away, maybe say 3 or 4 MC days away. Just to stay out the way lol. I will build a portal of w/e to stay connected to the community though.

when 1.8 comes out if wolves or some other fun machinery mods are MP compatible at that time I will seriously consider starting a server, it'll cost about 20 bucks a month if I host it (to upgrade my internet service, I have a spare heavy duty machine) which is a bit cheaper than the hosted solutions that dont support the mods I would want to use.

So anyways if thats what you guys want to do put aside a few bucks for donations

Anvildude wrote:I think what the Ops and Mods were meaning to do, though, was use WorldEdit to pull the important stuff out, then plunk it back into the newly created world.

That would be good.
If we put together a list of the stuff we need to save, and get dark to worldedit it into the new world, we would be ok.

So, the List:

The Manor
Gooda's Hall
Brandywine
The Eyrie
My Project (Soon to be announced)
Wolf's Boat
The Honeydew Statue
Arcadia
Grundz's Castle
The Museum

(Add anything else you can think of)

I'm actually alright if I need to restart Arcadia, I'd actually be more worried about my current house.

Yet it's not as simple as just grabbing the structures likely as many will likely have tunnel systems that won't quite work out. So while I'm for it if it means fun with the villages, it probably won't happen.

A list is unnecessary

though it would take a few hours, the whole map could be imported to MCedit then sent back into the new map, it would override new bloks so areas already generated couldn't have the new biome or whatever, but it would work

Well, even if we can only rescue some of the structure, and have to rebuild the tunnels, it is better than having to rebuild the whole thing.


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Grundz wrote:A list is unnecessary

though it would take a few hours, the whole map could be imported to MCedit then sent back into the new map, it would override new bloks so areas already generated couldn't have the new biome or whatever, but it would work

So, we would have to explore new land to find the new biomes/NPC villages?

RaptorsTallon wrote:Well, even if we can only rescue some of the structure, and have to rebuild the tunnels, it is better than having to rebuild the whole thing.


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Grundz wrote:A list is unnecessary

though it would take a few hours, the whole map could be imported to MCedit then sent back into the new map, it would override new bloks so areas already generated couldn't have the new biome or whatever, but it would work

So, we would have to explore new land to find the new biomes/NPC villages?

correct, the world exists in "chunks"

we would simply overwrite the new "chunks" with our map, you'd have to travel to get new chunks to generate and they have a chance of being the new stuff

Does anyone have major structures at more than +/- 2500?
Not sure if it is possible, but maybe we could recreate the center part of the map, so up to 2500 blocks any way from 0,0.

This would mean more of the map would be new.