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Orkeosaurus: Yep, my wording was poor, hence Mad Dok answering in the obvious.

Mad Dok: I know you mentioned you got fired, hence my questioning about your very black and white stance. Your taking an absolute right v wrong angle on this issue but I would have thought due to recent experience, you'd be prepared to concede that actual this is a fairly morally ambiguous argument. You worked someplace that had a rule about using the interwebs yet chose to flout that rule, so there really is a rebel under all that fervent saluting and reminding kids that crime doesn't pay.

Is this on a massive scale, does GW really feel the impact of counterfeiting any more than it's affected adversely by the resell market since the explosion of ebay. I don't believe so, they occasionally bust a few heads as an example but that seems to be it.

When I decided I wanted the Juan Diaz (? the metal ones with movement to them) Daemonettes and I called GW (this was a few months ago), the guy sighed down the phone and said they were finished making them, so I asked if they had any old stock, no you must buy the new models. I asked how it was they had the old bog ugly ghouls they had discontinued a couple of years ago but no more daemonettes that they had replaced about 2 months prior, the guy refused to answer and so I asked if perhaps he could let me know any of the indi retailers they supplied might have some, again nothing. I asked him if they still held the moulds, could there be a chance of them issuing some if popular demand suggested they'd sell, there is after all a section for 'collectors' daemons that they could put them on, could I ask that be submitted as customer feedback? No. There is a current box of daemonettes, you should use those. I asked again, any way someone had some I could buy? The guy sighed again and said 'Ebay mate'. Fine and dandy, I will buy from ebay and couldn't give two gaks about whether its a forgery frankly.

Those of you stating this is a terrible thing, it's illegal and if GW had not abandoned it's bits service and maintaining it's old ranges I might even be onside but the fact remains GW don't provide the service they once did and it seems to be becoming more streamlined all the time, the forging and resell and 'near imitation' companies that are springing up are filling the niche left by GW and I for one will use them if it suits and rest easy in my bed.

Mod mode on

Axyl wrote:I can see this thread getting locked fast if you two don't stay on topic.

Iron fist...there really is no point in bringing up anything about Luna's parents or personal situations. Even if it was in this thread it was 10 pages back and isn't relevant to the current discussion anyway. Just leave it.

Luna...just ignore him.

Now if you don't mind..I'm more interested in knowing what the test results revealed than your argument with another member.

Wise words, Axyl.

It's time to lock the thread.

It has gone on long enough and there are plenty of personal sniping attacks happening which we can do without.

To those involved, a note has been taken of your names. Please be aware that repeated violation of the rule on politeness is liable lead to warnings and suspensions.

Back on topic, if anyone suspects they have bought counterfeit figures, the Hasslefree Miniatures forum threads referenced earlier give some good tips for spotting them, and also explains the background of how counterfeiting can hurt legitimate sellers.

If someone disagrees with my locking the thread, please contact another moderator.