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Hello guys,
Glad to have ya'll back. Thanks for your service and being a Veteran. I. love the work both ya'll are doing. Keep it up and keep posting it. I see no more sand for bases.


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hello,
Thank you for your service and being a Veteran. I love ya'lls work on the models. I see no more sand for the bases. Glad to see ya'll maded it home. Keep on gaming.

micahaphone wrote:

look in the P&M Tutorial section for some tips on doing snow bases.

I am having a hard time finding anything. Could you link me to it?

Micahphone im from mn.im from saint paul.ill be home on the 19th.if you wana play i`ll maill my pieces home.pm me i`ll get your info...

Argh! I keep conflicting with myself deciding on whether I should change my Eldar color scheme or not. Too much white? Does the weapon color look good in contrast to the armor? I don't know... or more appropriately, I can't decide.

I find myself liking E-ninja´s latest HWT a lot, must be the alternate heads.

M.

micahaphone wrote:E: Sorry, I am in MN, so you'll probably never play me. But the future is a capricious place, so you never know.

Diesel: Sorry to hear that 'nids didn't work out for you. Glad to hear that you found an army that you like! to be fair, that hormanengaunt is pretty good looking. The Eldar camo is cool, look in the P&M Tutorial section for some tips on doing snow bases. They certainly helped me.

E: I love the way you do your camo, and your models look great. However, the shells laying on the ground just look too shiny and fresh for such a grim model. Perchance you could drybrush some black, or a brown wash over the pile on the ground?

Your flamer troop also looks good. Maybe try putting some black paint in the holes on the muzzle, and drybrush some black on the end so it looks used an scorched.

I like you idea for the shells I think I`ll try that..

As promised here is PFC delaney`s blood angels.He is currently trying to log on to DAKKA.I`m sure you`ll here from him soon.Tell him what you think!

I really like the colors because they are so original.he used tin bits for the bronze color,and put it on spots of heavy armor..

He said h predator is a work in progress....

A quick note on my Eldar attempts.

White has... pretty much proven itself extremely difficult to work with. I don't know if it's a fickle paint to produce, but GW's Skull White just turns out to be a huge pain. Any personally applied coats with a brush requires multiple of the same to cover up any other color, and end up resulting in lumpy, uneven coats. I simply could not figure how how I would use such a scheme to paint vehicles. It's tough for me... I love the "tough", "army-like" colors of the IG but I supremely wanted the stats of the Eldar units. Plus, I would be avoiding the pains of working with white.

So, after days of wondering and stressing if my effots would turn out well, I decided that if I could not make up my mind, then they obviously were not right for me. So I tossed all of the models in a bath of denatured alcohol, and there they will sit for the next couple of days.

But now I have to decide on a color scheme. And believe me... It kindof feels like I can't win. I can't see any of these guardian themes being transferred to a vehicle. Or if they could, they would look crappy on an Eldar model. Look at the pics below, for instance. The geen/black one looked kind of tactical, but just didn't flaunt the eldar guardians like I would have loved. Maybe I'm missing something. But I WANT to make it work because I know somewhere in this gourd of mine, it can.

The bottom pic shows my (current) idea of what will work the best and still be original (Ulthw'e and Beil-Tan are awesome, but I'm no copycat).

Oh... and you know how I came to this decision? I called Melissa into my room and told her of my dellima, and when she suggested mettalic, I told her it would not be continuity with Eldar fluff, read her the exerpt on guardian armor, and she said, "Well, I know you are trying to steer clear of the fruity colors... but that description sounds like that's what you would be stuck with." And then she endured a 30 minute session with me going over my paint set and picking out colors.

Or maybe I'm just whipped.

I do not know what it is with white, but I have the same problems as you, and do not use GW's paints. It is just a hard color to paint with it seems.

I personally like the first color scheme, the second one looks a little too fruity, like a Power Ranger or something. You should just go with what you want, and not feel like you are forced to paint fruity colors by the fluff. There are some Eldar craftworld color schemes from Dawn of War that are not fruity at all, one being black and white (forgot name ).

@diesel. I really like the 2nd theme, it looks great! I not to sure about the first theme, its just not that elderly (is that
a word?).

Wow those Blood angels are so different from the norm, I love it! Good work PFC delaney! Hope he makes it onto dakka eventualy.

Just a color test, mostly for E. this is a rough draft of what the Black-green model would look like, with better detail, ect.

EDIT:

Commissar Agro wrote:

I plan on trying that. But before I do I wanted to exaust the option of making a tactically colored Eldar squad. You can seem some failed rough drafts below.

Another test, exchanging the snot green with dark angels green.



EDIT: JEEEEEZ paiting Eldar sucks! Seriously! Why am I punishing myself with this?!

Ok, Commisar Argo, here's a revised version I am probably going to go with. EDIT, except without the off-color left forearm.


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I know it probably looks like I am being ridiculously wishy-washy. But the point is, though I love the eldar's base stats, they are an incredibly fruity painted armdy. and I just can't do it. the problem is, it seems, is that any other scheme just looks wierd on them.

HUGE UPDATE!!!!!!!!!



A long time ago, when things were brewing between future legends... There was...

diesel7270 wrote:A shipment of mail came in today and XO and Kehrer got new units in. Everyone's been spending the last few days painting (or not being around too much).

diesel7270 wrote:Kehrer hopped on photoshop and took a planet image from google search. I really like it.

diesel7270 wrote:Barnett is the kind of guy to waste his money on any bandwagon he can jump on, so he bought a bunch of Orks so that he could play with Erickson. And Kehrer, sensing another nerdy pastime taking root, bought some Tau.

diesel7270 wrote:Kehrer and I set up the first table, as he was the first guy to jump on the idea to get 40K started again...

E_ninja13 wrote:Turn 3 Kehrer is not happy...

diesel7270 wrote:On to today's update... Kehrer got several new Crisis Suits.

diesel7270 wrote:I've informed my Tau player of his need to diversify, but he refuses. Whatever. He's either adapt or lose. Or adapt *and* lose. Heh heh. He relies heavily on his battlesuits, specifically broadsides and squads of them for assault. I think he truly believes that there's got to be some *true* Tau setup that he can use to win.

KEHRER.
Iraq: http://twdmechdesigns.com/dakka/ir0.jpg
Now: http://twdmechdesigns.com/dakka/rl.jpg

A man of mystery and shadow, hiding in the backgroud... Surely another dweeb.

...and enough third person, I finally jumped on and made an account. While we've lost Diesel to distance (he is no longer in the army), we've picked up Delany (blood angels), and you still have "E" Erikson (IG), and recently re-emerged Kehrer (Tau) meanwhile all others have left the cause (perhaps a good thing, some of the guys definately needed a break) while some have turned around and decided now is the best time to get down and dirty.

Terrain... We didn't bring ANY of it home. Now its a race to put what we've learned to use. E's going nuts on the custom pieces while I've sunk some bling to get us a few ForgeWorld and GW terrain pieces. Atop that, I spent the weekend cutting a game board and buying a grassland base for it. PICS TO COME!!

I can't recall how much paints I've picked up and what all E's working with, we're really going to try to bring out a jungle-like landscape this time.

As for the Tau, they're here but I bought Barnett's orks from the XO. I had too much fun working with them that I bought more, eventually leading up to a small sized army. (Nobz are so freakin cool to customize!) I try to play O'Shovah, who runs on "Breakaway Faction" rules and forces the use of a lot of battlesuits, while lacking Kroot. I still have one Hammerhead that I play, a full Broadside squad with Targetting Arrays, and 3x Sniper Drone Teams for the heavy damage. Hence Diesel always wondered why I couldn't play like most other Tau players.

Prior to this whole ordeal, I was so horrible at painting that you likely couldn't trust me to stay in the numbers. I've gotten incredibly better and now I've been deperately trying to fight a paint scheme I want to try for Tau.

Since we're focusing on primarily jungle and grassland-like board + terrain, I landed on a forest green camo (catachan grn = base + gretchin grn = highlights) and hope to design a guillie-suit version for the broadsides, hammerhead, and both firewarrior troops. PICS TO COME!!!

The one thing that attracted me especially to 40k was the fact that you could customize beyond what you could ever do with wargear provided in any of the Dawn of War games. In fact, the main joy to making these armies has been in assembling them. I have a few pics to show as examples:

My Custom O'Shovah
http://twdmechdesigns.com/dakka/a1.jpg
http://twdmechdesigns.com/dakka/a2.jpg
Made from a combination of his kit and parts from Crisis Suits from both ForgeWorld and GW.

My Custom Broadside Shas'vre
http://twdmechdesigns.com/dakka/c1.jpg
http://twdmechdesigns.com/dakka/c2.jpg
Made from a combination of Crisis Suit parts and Broadsides from both ForgeWorld and GW. The pilot is female, the legs are reposed, and there is the use of a drone support to compensate.

My Custom Shas'O Commander
http://twdmechdesigns.com/dakka/wip_strkmstr_krnr.jpg
Now completely painted over for the new scheme. Yes that's a human (Gue'la) you're able to see through the battlewound in the chest (the new paint scheme will look 100% better in detail).

And now one of my completed Crisis Shas'vre




LOTS AND LOTS MORE to come. I'm going to talk to E and see if we can get another thread going. Things are bound to get pretty crazy 'ere soon...

Welcome to Dakka Kehrer
I like the way you painted the battlesuit, it looks very different from most Tau armys, which usually go for very clean looking and bright colors.

Bout time man! Glad you showed up now we can get this thread over flowing with info!

Good to see you all back.

E_ninja, what part of Sand Hill are you stationed on? I did my stint there training as an 11-C, but after some injuries I got put on garrison duty helping train some of those Latin guys do their MOUT training.

Haveing now seen the paint on the first "failed scheme" it dosn't look to bad.
But I do like the scheme your now going with.

@Kehrer. Hi and welcome to dakka. I like the jungle camo for your tau, its not the normal crisp painting you normally see on tau. It helps identify them as farsight's splinter faction. I really like the ork head on the suit, also tieing into the farsight theme. Nice use of the forgeworld kits. Keep up the good work!

Yep. I may have a hard time matching colors exactly. For some reason the colors by name are somewhat lighter in shade on the program. They do other "standard" soldier types as well, from what I recall. EDIT: actually, I think they only do Eldar Guardian and a Fire Warrior. You can find the webpage at [url]
http://www.freewebs.com/grimdarkness/painterprogram.htm[/url]

I'm gonna get on painting the 2nd paint scheme on another guardian and be sure to post it, but I was curious... is there a way to get a semi-gloss varnish? Would mixing satin and gloss varnishes not deteriorate the cohesion of the result? I'd rather not run out and try to find another set of Acrylic glosses. Satin simply looks like "normal" paint.

E, that Crisis suit's camo puts yours to shame... I'm sorry, but that is AMAZING! Then again, he doesn't have as many troops to paint....

Kehrer, keep up the good work, I look forward to a batrep between you two!

E, I normally play @ "The Source Comics & Games", and I will try to go out on that day. School work keeps me busy. Today & yesterday combined, we have gotten ~8-12" of snow, the first of the season. Isn't MN great? If you need any more details, feel free to PM me. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to use the word "capricious"

E suggested that I mottle the colors I was planning to do, like Craftworld Alaitoc. Here is my prototype result, without highlighting or doing the jewel. And the facemask was half-assed because I hadno GW yellow and Melissa's acrylics were ultra-thick for canvas painting. Watering them down didn't help them from drying craggy, so I stopped there. Opinions on the colors or mottling? EDIT: I am having a HELL of a time getting this camera to not take crappy pictures, all of the sudden. Bear with me if they are too blurry for you to make out details.


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That green doesn't look too much like E's old style of camo, does it? I just noticed that. Well, I don't particularly care unless someone else does. I'm just trying to make a good looking model.

micahaphone wrote:E, that Crisis suit's camo puts yours to shame... I'm sorry, but that is AMAZING! Then again, he doesn't have as many troops to paint....

Kehrer, keep up the good work, I look forward to a batrep between you two!

E, I normally play @ "The Source Comics & Games", and I will try to go out on that day. School work keeps me busy. Today & yesterday combined, we have gotten ~8-12" of snow, the first of the season. Isn't MN great? If you need any more details, feel free to PM me. Thanks for giving me the opportunity to use the word "capricious"

Thanks micah i appreciate that.But what can I say the kid got skills.But are you talking about the source in roseville?I`ll try to mail my peices out in the next couple of days.We can definately play..Don`t hate me if i board wipe ya in 3 turns..lol

Of course, I have some rough edges to fix up, but it's a start on how I'm almost certain these guys are going to look. I'm probably going to keep the mottled breakup on the foot soldiers only, and not the vehicles. That's up to debate, though. The face, sand base, and some weapon details need some work, ect. But This is a general look at how the guardians are going to.

The test Guardian looks good, much different from the color in picture which I did not like. you made it look very nice, I especially like the camo-ish painting on the green.

So now there is a BA player HMMMMMM!?!?! Will be watching more closely to give a little advice out. Good work from all of you. You do your country proud!

That's the one. It's a great store, no?

I am debating on going with a heavily grassy base now, or a blasted earth the same as E is doing. Grassy will make more sense but by choice I almost never play a straight grass map... it's just always what everyone else has because it's easy to build. So that's what its on my mind right now.

I am also trying to figure out a way to build a flag or standard... either with a standard bearer or a meaningless base with a flag on it. And how on earth the parts itself will be constructed.

Let me know if you have any suggestions on those two things or the paintjob of the guardians.

I think the consistent problem with my pictures turning out crappy is that this house was made in the 1940's and my girl is too cheap to buy anything but low-watt light bulbs. The lighting is horrible in every room, and distinctly yellowed.

But you can see here where I used magnets to make the Guardians' weapons platform have an interchangeable barrel instead of having to buy 5 different platforms.

Where it gets iffy is the paintjob (again.) I thought the red-pink barrel made the whole thing look like covenant technology but Melissa informs me it just looks like a cat's *thingy*... So... another color, then. I've still got to mottle the color scheme, I suppose, do the base right. The peg at the bottom sits in it lopsided for some reason.


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Also, E's got no internet and Kehrer's chain of command are a bunch of slavedrivers, so you probably won't see them that much for a few days.