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@ monkeytroll- Indeed it does. And it only now occurs to me that I need to change my numbers a bit before Yggs stops by and tells me that 149 divided by 7 = appx 21.28 squads, and that my Havocs need 2 more Marines per squad, so really I need 14 more Plague Marines and 1 more Aspiring Champion to make 22 full squads of Plague Marines and 4 squads of Death Guard Havocs. And then there's the issue that 26 isn't cleanly divisible by 7....

@ Llamahead- Thank you very much (especially for noticing the backdrop, it took quite a while to set all that stuff up!). I'm hoping this serves as inspiration for you to take some "family photos" of your stuff as well, you've been busy and it has been a while since I've seen an overall shot.

@ JBrehaut- The 2nd photo is my new wallpaper on my work computer. Ha.

@ Tortured-Robot- Why are you posting on Dakka? You should be working on your RT Chaos Marines! Get to it, Mister! ...just kidding. Well, sort of. Thank you, though.

@ weetyskemian44- "like an army of pustules covered in snot. " Aww, you say the sweetest things! Thank you! And I wish I had more "old school" in my army. I'm thinking the last 15 models I need to "fill out" the force with the right numbers are going to be long in coming so I can get some classic 2nd Ed and RT in there.

@ Moltar- Thank you. But no one has mentioned the most brutal and gruesome part of that picture yet- the wretched peeling wallpaper! Father Nurgle has infected the very fabric of the house I live in!

@ DarkStarSabre- Oh man... talk about tearing the scab off an old wound. Yeah, I was CRANKED about that. I used Green Ink and Flesh Wash over it. I will admit I like the new washes better for most things, but having to find a new mix for ink was a pain and even after trial & error error error I still didn't get it "right" again until recently. At least 40 Marines and 3 vehicles are darker than I wanted, but that's my own fault. It fits the theme though, varying degrees of rot and pestilence.



Wow, thanks everyone for commenting! It's really appreciated, and it keeps the motivation high.

Open question to everyone (even the lurkers / sightseers that don't post)- I'm making a Palanquin of Nurgle. Should it be on a 40mm base or 60mm base? I looked in the BRB, CSM Codex, and online. No definitive answer but many opinions vary, so I figured I'd go with consensus here. Will wait 2 days before going with majority vote.

Again, thanks for stopping by, and more is coming soon!

Well Epidemius comes on a 60mm round base, so 60mm.

Wow. That is the most "duh" moment I've felt in a while, and that is saying a lot.

1) I didn't see this while looking online

2) I didn't even know this model existed! Was this a White Dwarf thing?

So I guess that was a short vote. 60mm it is.


*edit* Additional "duh". It's a Daemon so I'm guessing it's from the Daemon Codex and / or WFB Daemons?

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:

Very awesome force you have there! I'm quite jealous of the amount you have painted! I'm also really diggign the mix of newer and older models, It reminds me of my army... but with way more paint!

he is in the Daemon Codex

@ logg_frogg- I have to say the painting method does lend itself to very fast units. I haven't posted this in a while, maybe ever? This is how I paint my Death Guard:

1) Flat white primer (actually I just use the $1 per can flat white from Wal-Mart).

2) a "home brew" 2 to 1 mix of green (two parts) and yellow (1 part) of inks from Privateer Press. If you try this, experiment with the mix on something that is primed w/ the same flat white you are going to use on the miniatures (preferably sprue for the real effect) and change your mix acccordingly to make sure you have the look you want on your miniatures.

3) With a larger brush (one that is trashed, doesn't have to be a 'nice' brush) and liberally wash the miniature with your ink mix. It will look brighter and greener when it is first going on. Once it settles and dries you'll have that bright bilious look. If you don't want to wait for the miniatures to dry completely, you can 'cheat' buy using a hair dryer on high heat - low air setting (I do this frequently when I'm really hamming on a project). If you see that you are blowing the ink around or off the miniature the air is too strong, back the dryer off a bit.

4) Wash models with liberal coat of Dev Mud to darken recesses and give some depth to help identify areas on the model. Allow to dry completely (or blow dry)

5) Paint the details you want like armor trim, weapons, eyes, etc.

6) Wash entire model with GW Griffon Sepia. Allow to dry *completely* (or again, blow dry)

7) Final wash with GW Devlin Mud if anything is looking a bit light in the armor joints, etc.

Seven steps for Father Nurgle!

You now know every secret I have to painting my Death Guard.


@ GreyTauKnight- thank you, that explains a lot. I never got too excited about the Daemon Codex.

I'm also considering making my HQ on a palanquin - naturally I have one of the old RT type ones. I thought the reason the latest version of the palanquin was on a 60mm base was because he is a massive daemon?

I was thinking 40mm for me as he is only a csm- plus he can still fit into a landraider.

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:@ DarkStarSabre- Oh man... talk about tearing the scab off an old wound. Yeah, I was CRANKED about that. I used Green Ink and Flesh Wash over it. I will admit I like the new washes better for most things, but having to find a new mix for ink was a pain and even after trial & error error error I still didn't get it "right" again until recently. At least 40 Marines and 3 vehicles are darker than I wanted, but that's my own fault. It fits the theme though, varying degrees of rot and pestilence.

I know exactly how that feels and proceeded to buy a metric crapton of Dark Green Ink before they discontinued it. I've also found a local Hobbycraft that sells acrylic inks which happen to be spot on matches for GW inks, and though they cost about £5 over here they're at least 5 times the size of the old GW ink pots - I even went and bought one for black ink (as that's what I use to base most things now...).

Nice recipe too. Mine for the old Blighted Brigade was much more...simples.

1) Basecoat Dark Angels Green.
2) Layer with Bestial Brown
3) Layer with Snot Green
4) Layer with Snakebite Leather
5) Layer with Bleached Bone and stipple patches of Snakebite Leather while still wet.
6) Wash with Dark Angels Green
7) Wash with Flesh Wash or Chestnut Ink.
8) Paint the metal - tin bitz base, boltgun metal, flesh wash.

Produces a similar effect though! If only we didn't have that ocean between us....

Tortured-Robot wrote:I'm also considering making my HQ on a palanquin - naturally I have one of the old RT type ones. I thought the reason the latest version of the palanquin was on a 60mm base was because he is a massive daemon?

I was thinking 40mm for me as he is only a csm- plus he can still fit into a landraider.

I only said a 60mm base as that is what Epidemius comes on, but from what I understand, if you have an older model that's on a different sized base (terminators being a good example) then it's OK to use them on whatever they originally came on. This is good news as otherwise you'd have loads of gamers having to modify perfectly good minis by fitting new bases, also because a smaller base gives you a bit of a tactical advantage in that it can fit through smaller gaps between terrain features!

Tortured-Robot wrote:I'm also considering making my HQ on a palanquin - naturally I have one of the old RT type ones. I thought the reason the latest version of the palanquin was on a 60mm base was because he is a massive daemon?

I was thinking 40mm for me as he is only a csm- plus he can still fit into a landraider.

Now I'm confused because that makes sense. Gah! I'm usually better about stuff like this. I miss the old days of 20mm round and 40mm square.

Ok, opening back up to opinion. Does nayone actually *know* this? I can't find anything in the BRB, and as clearly illustrated here... opinions vary. It would make sense that it's on a 60mm base because it's a masssive model, but would that still be a "legal" Land Raider transport?

60 or 40? Thoughts?

That's a very impressive army Skalk, Id say 60mm base for the palanquin. I think the old ones came on a monster square base.

I have a plan for my Nurgle lord that I'm going to count as either a palanquin or bike not sure yet.

well the rule for the palanquin says it can fit in a land raider, i would say use the base that helps get the model on the base, example i had a daemon prince come with a terminator base, rule says use base they come with but i had a larger base to put him on, i think i read somewhere you can add them onto larger bases then what they came with to make scenic bases and such, i would have to look it up

http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Basing_Guidelines_for_Warhammer_40,000 (found an article on dakka they say 60mm)

I thought there was a rule of thumb that any model's base size can be increased to your liking (except for Canis Wolfborn), but you cannot decrease the size below the base that the model came on. Something about decreasing the number of close combat enemies with a smaller base is prohibited, but you can have as large of one as you want. Just keep in mind, the larger the base, the more models can come into base contact with it. I could be wrong though.

ive heard that too

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:@ logg_frogg- I have to say the painting method does lend itself to very fast units. I haven't posted this in a while, maybe ever? This is how I paint my Death Guard:

1) Flat white primer (actually I just use the $1 per can flat white from Wal-Mart).

2) a "home brew" 2 to 1 mix of green (two parts) and yellow (1 part) of inks from Privateer Press. If you try this, experiment with the mix on something that is primed w/ the same flat white you are going to use on the miniatures (preferably sprue for the real effect) and change your mix acccordingly to make sure you have the look you want on your miniatures.

3) With a larger brush (one that is trashed, doesn't have to be a 'nice' brush) and liberally wash the miniature with your ink mix. It will look brighter and greener when it is first going on. Once it settles and dries you'll have that bright bilious look. If you don't want to wait for the miniatures to dry completely, you can 'cheat' buy using a hair dryer on high heat - low air setting (I do this frequently when I'm really hamming on a project). If you see that you are blowing the ink around or off the miniature the air is too strong, back the dryer off a bit.

4) Wash models with liberal coat of Dev Mud to darken recesses and give some depth to help identify areas on the model. Allow to dry completely (or blow dry)

5) Paint the details you want like armor trim, weapons, eyes, etc.

6) Wash entire model with GW Griffon Sepia. Allow to dry *completely* (or again, blow dry)

7) Final wash with GW Devlin Mud if anything is looking a bit light in the armor joints, etc.

Seven steps for Father Nurgle!

You now know every secret I have to painting my Death Guard.


@ GreyTauKnight- thank you, that explains a lot. I never got too excited about the Daemon Codex.

Very similar to how I used to paint my Deathguard. I've decided to go to a slightly different look with more highlight colours for my second go but it will be a similar idea

@ DarkStarSabre- I've bought 2 each of the P3 Green and Yellow ink in case they stop making it. I cannot fathom what I would need w/ so much, but considering I've already used the equivalent of 2 full tubes, I'm only a project away from needing more. Nice recipe for nastiness! And yeah, that whole "ocean" thing has been bugging me for a long time. Europe and Scandinavia have the best Metal gigs on the plant and I'm stuck between Montreal CA and Boston USA. Ugh.

@ GreyDeathOne- Quality over quantity, my friend. And I'm not against playing w/ unpainted models, they just lose -1 to all stats.

@ monkeyh- All my Terminators are 2nd Ed so they have the original 20mm Round. I don't know what to use here because there's nothing to gauge against. Does the Epidemius kit come w/ round and square bases like the Bloodthirster does?

@ GiraffeX- Thank you! It's been my love / hate relationship for the last year. Looking forward to seeing your next project, you do excellent work.

@ GreyTauKnight- I checked that link, thank you.

@ Moltar- I think I remember reading that as well somewhere. I'm just looking to see if I'm "upsizing to" or if I "have" to be 60mm.

@ logg_frogg- Looking forward to seeing what you come up with for sure!



My schedule changed singnificantly today. It's going to affect the time I have to work on projects for a while. Good thing it's been a flurry of activity for the last few weeks, really happy about how much I finished up. So very few models left, so close... ha. The Shelf of Shame has no place for the Death Guard! I'll finish up the Defiler as soon as I can, and I know I'll be charged up when the Corpse Cart stuff arrives for that Palanquin. But I really need to finish that Defiler first. And the Land Raider w/ tracks will be here soon as well.

I'll be back soon w/ more Nurgle awesomeness!

Hey Skalk, you have a bunch of predators (three, it looks like?). Have you used them in triplets? I'm considering buying a predator or three, and I'm not sure how effective they are over traditional Heavy Support options. I love the idea of laying down a barrage of lascannon fire.

Looks so great. I'm really envious

@ Samus_aran115- I haven't ever used the in triplets because each Predator is a separate Heavy Support item. My luck with them has been lackluster and they seem surprisingly ineffective. They are too expensive (130 w/ Lascannons) considering the light armor and infrequency you get to shoot them, unless you're going to have them act as a Heavy Weapon platform (a Havoc squad w/ Autocannon and 2 Lascannons is more expensive). I like them because they look cool and I suppose given a specific scenario they'd be effective... I just haven't found it in 5th Ed yet. I'd sooner spend the extra 95 points and get a troop transport w/ dual twin-linked Lascannons and can Deep Strike. Thank you for the compliment, I really do appreciate it and would like to point out that whether you realized it or not, you're one of the first people that posted a reply on this thread. Thanks for sticking around and watching the Death Guard grow!



Quick update because I have to go to bed and have a Cultist update to finish tonight as well.

Great news! The new Land Raider is here! Take a good look at it. You won't see it like this again.





The Land Raider was wheeled into the storage chamber by disease-twisted Servitors as the Dark Mechanicus chanted vile and poisonous litanies of corruption. The Loyalist vehicle was consumed by the horrors of the Warp, as was the Machine Spirit within. The storage chamber closed, and true darkness fell upon it.



It'll be sitting there for a while. How long is a while? Who knows? The last vehicle I put in there didn't come out for 8 months. Maybe this will come out sooner.

On to other things. Here's my most recent conversion- another Icon Bearer. I'm starting to really appreciate the importance of an Icon Bearer. They help guide Deep Strikers, and they are less expensive than an Aspiring Champion when a Greater Daemon decided to materialize. Plus it's a pretty cool model if I do say so myself... and I do.



Last for this update is better pics of my original Daemon Prince of Nurgle. I cleaned it up pretty well (meaning I washed the 12 years of dust off it) and it looks only marginally better. I painted this in 1999, so don't dig on it too badly. I remember when I did this, was trying to learn new techniques but at the same time was ripping through it because I wanted to put it on the table. *sigh* I guess some things will never change. Ha.









That's it for this one. Thank you one and all for following along. I really appreciate the readership and I hope I continue to make it worth your while to stop by now and then.

That old daemon prince is a classic! lol I like the new icon bearer too, if you say so yourself!

I really like the new standard bearer!

This thread just has so much WOW! I can really only re-state what everyone else has said since my last appreciative comment!

That frontline view of the army just looks so cool! Way to go!

Love the old DP model too!

@ genom.cor- I still have a couple of them still in the original blister. I was a bit impulsive back then.

@ Hyenajoe- Thank you! It was a simple conversion but is going to look great when it is done.

Really like your standard bearer As for the question about what Epidemius comes with base wise, not sure as I don't actually have him (yet) but I think models that can be used in fantasy battle aswell (don't know if he can) normally come with both bases. Sorry if this confuses you even more!

@ RSJake- Thank you, I really do appreciate it. The enthusiasm people show for my work is a genuine motivator to keep pressing forward with progress, and to also strive for higher accomplishments. Without feedback I'd have nothing to guage myself against. My IRL friends are cool but they don't provide much feedback on my projects. Such a stoic and taciturn lot.

@ monkeyh- Thanks! I'll get some paint on it soon. As for the base, I'm going to go w/ a 60mm base because no one will complain it is too small and it affords me more modeling options. I have an idea that is quite twisted and I'm going to max out my painting skills to pull it off properly. I'm not going to WIP it, I'm just going to do it and then post here. Will be in Jan sometime.

Actually, Epidemius does come on a 60mm base. And if you ever feel like getting Epidemius do so. In Apocalypse games he does silly, silly things with Death Guard armies.

Armour ignoring bolters are hilarious.

@ DarkStarSabre- $45 + whatever shipping for GW... eBay is looking pretty bare. I'll wait a while. But hmm... *looks again* man I have got to get the APOC rules. Everything I hear about them is x10 WIN over 5th Ed... like hordes of Plague Zombies, Plaguelord Super Heavier, Plague Hulks, etc.

Thanks for sharing that info.

Like the Icon guy, looks menacing.

You old Daemon Prince still looks pretty good, you could tart him up a bit and he'd be awesome.

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:@ DarkStarSabre- $45 + whatever shipping for GW... eBay is looking pretty bare. I'll wait a while. But hmm... *looks again* man I have got to get the APOC rules. Everything I hear about them is x10 WIN over 5th Ed... like hordes of Plague Zombies, Plaguelord Super Heavier, Plague Hulks, etc.

Thanks for sharing that info.

Yes - plague hulks are awesome and zombies make great cannon fodder!

@ Tortured-Robot- I'll likely leave the "past" in the past. But I promise if I start using him in 40K I'll change the base to round.

@ monkeyh- I really want to try APOC. And I'm sort of ready for it. Apologies if I have forgotten, but have you seen my Plague Zombies from my Cultist thread?


That's 100 Plague Zombies.



Last night I got home from work and decided to celebrate the victory of making it through a pre-holiday week by getting some work done. I dabbled with the Cult for a bit, abjectly ignoring the Defiler (not sure why, I'm just not into it right now) and cleaned up the bench a bit. While I was cleaning the bench up I found the broken Chaos Bike that Daichallar gave me quite a while back, and I also came across the Space Marine biker that came w/ a box of junk I bought on eBay a long time ago. I used him recently for a scale comparison for the Defiler:



For the first time I put rider on bike, and all of a sudden I wanted to just work on it a bit. You know, see if I could fix it up, maybe even build it a bit and figure out if I'd even be interested in doing anything with it.

Usually I take pictures of things when I first start them. I have to say that of all the times I did not take WIP photos, this is the one I regret the most. But it is what it is, and at least I have the pics I have.

I did this in one sitting, from bare plastic to finished model.







The handlebars / top front of the bike were misssing. I made the handlebars out of a wooden dowel, the "headlight" was replaced with an Icon of Nurgle, and check out what I did for the speedo / tach:



Anyone recognize what that's made from? It was perfect for what I wanted, and I even made and effort to put some detail on it. I tried to get a "power" look for the Power Maul but I think I just made a drybrushed / 1/2 highlighted mess. It is what it is, and it likely looks better to other people than I think it does.

I like what I did w/ the Plasma Pistol:





I was going to try OSL but I got scared and decided not to. But still pretty happy w/ it. I added some Blood Red to my Boltgun Metal to achieve that weird pinkish / red metallic look.

Final shots w/ everything. I really like the banner pole. Simple but effective:







Overall I am really, really happy w/ this model and I am w/o a doubt going to grab 6 more and make a squad of them. I realize Fast Attack is not really a Plague Marine thing but it's in line w/ my intent to have at least 1 of every thing available in the Chaos Codex .

Plus this was the most fun I've had modeling and painting since my Chaos Sorcerer. Yes I know I need to finish my Lascannon Havocs and my last squad and fill out my Havoc squads and get working on my Land Raider and get some Obliterators in my force and some Raptors and and and and.... it will all happen. I just took a side road and arrived somewhere I didn't expect but it was awesome.

More coming soon, thanks for looking!