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Lol was only saying if he did ever decide to make a mold of it, that I would buy it.
I never said I wouldn't make one of my own.
I just haven't played around with god specific rhino's yet*Only have one and that's undivided for the time being.)

Latest update. There's a few fiddly things left but they could be good "as is". That's enough text, I'm going to let the pictures do the talking.

Gotta tell you man, every time you post a pic on this thread/explain your next plan, it gets better and better. I would love to face this army!

Rhino look old school greatness!!!

On a bad note I have a massive dislike for your basing of this army.

Models great! bases Bad !

juicy juicy nurgle full of rot and pus! Also I love to see the old traitor marines as they are so randomly shaped and fun

zadelistol wrote:Gotta tell you man, every time you post a pic on this thread/explain your next plan, it gets better and better. I would love to face this army!

Thanks, I appreciate the support. The next phase of this project is going to be huge. 40 new Plague Marines. That's going to tip the main balance of my force from "old" to "new", but that's just fine with me. Over 13 years past and it's still a viable army to paint and play.

Tortured-Robot wrote:Rhino look old school greatness!!!

On a bad note I have a massive dislike for your basing of this army.

Models great! bases Bad !

The flock?

weetyskemian44 wrote:juicy juicy nurgle full of rot and pus! Also I love to see the old traitor marines as they are so randomly shaped and fun

Yeah, I really like the old Plague Marine models. They fit well with the old mythos of Nurgle, and add a flavor to a Plague Marine army that I don't think can be compared with any other Legion or warband. I'm following a couple on ebay right now that would a nice addition to my old stuff.

Very nice indeed, good work!

Quick update because today was lame and I didn't get much done at all. But I made sure to do at least this:



That's 10 out of 40. Notice that they are all missing heads and right shoulder pads. Both are on order. I am really hoping my PIP gas mask heads will be here before the weekend, same for the shoulder pads. In anticipation I'm going to paint these and fit the heads / pads afterward. I'm too impatient to wait any longer.

So really not much of an update. But still a valid one as other posts have shown not much time passes before a basecoated miniature becomes a completed part of my army.

I wish I could be even 1/4 this motivated about my Word Bearers. But I'm not, so whatever.

And a teaser of things to come in the distant future- tonight I scored a total steal on eBay. I'm not going to say what it is because I'm going to do it completely behind the scenes and then present it in a comprehensive "step by step" photo log all at once. The only hint I'll offer is I'm crediting Bigdobbo for the inspiration. This one is going to take a while but once it is done it will be the most amazing piece in my army and possibly the most complicated conversion I'll ever do. Depends on how it goes.

Keep checking back for more updates, because they are coming.

Awe man, Skalk your gonna keep your thread watchers(like me) on edge waiting for whats coming next!
Gah, can't wait to see what it is>< I don't wanna know what inspired it since I'm too lazy to go check the previous posts/other threads to find out what it was.

Good news- The next 20 Plague Marines just showed up today. I'll get to tearing them apart and putting them back together soon.

Bad news- My PIP heads did not arrive today. I am not happy. I'm not upset w/ PIP, I'm just upset at circumstance. I really need those heads to move forward. My shoulder pads didn't come either but I'm not as anxious for those.

So that's my update. A whole bunch of nothing. BUT... I am working on the 10 Plague Marines from the above photo. They aren't white anymore... ha.

Also taking another look at my Daemon Prince. Yeah, remember him? Seems like a couple months past already and it was only a week ago that I set him down to take a break. But time is different when you live in Warpspace. Anyway, pulled him back out again and decided to experiment a bit with ... highlights. I am daunted. But whatever happens it is what it is. So if nothing else I'll have some new pics of that, and this time it'll be for good, I'm going to base him.

That's all for now. Thanks for reading.

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:Thanks, I appreciate the support. The next phase of this project is going to be huge. 40 new Plague Marines.

40 Plague Marines... 40 : 7 = 5,7142857142857142857142857142857 and so forth...

How can you play 40 Plague Marines!?!

Let's imagine the scene:

Ol'Father Nurgle : "First shalt thou take out your whole Unholy Army. Then shalt thou count to Seven, no more, no less. Seven shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be Seven. Eight shalt thou not count (bloody -fanatics), neither count thou six (fing sex-addicts), excepting that thou then proceed to Seven. Nine is right out (goddn mock seers) . Once the number seven, being the seventh number, be reached, then formest thou thy first Plague Marine squad. Likewise, thou shall marshall thy remaining troops in squads of Seven, and Seven shall be the number of brothers in each of your squad."

Skalk Bloodaxe : "My beloved brothers of decay, I shall count to Seven, and, in my command, thou shall form up in squads of Seven!"

The Plague Marines : "Praise to the Lord of Decay."

Skalk Bloodaxe : "Right. Squad Smallpox, form up! 1.. 2.. 3.. 4.. 5.. 6.. 8."

Sgt. Smallpox : "Seven, sir."

Skalk Bloodaxe : "Seven."

Ol' Father Nurgle : " "




Ok, apart from that somewhat ironic fluff-related cutscene (or gut-scene ), I'm following your thread with great attention, for I love the way you manage to give your minis a real Nurgle feel, even when it was not their first purpose!!!

So congratulations, I want to see more (and I want to see 7-men squads!!!)

Cheers,

Yggdrasil wrote:

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:Thanks, I appreciate the support. The next phase of this project is going to be huge. 40 new Plague Marines.

40 Plague Marines... 40 : 7 = 5,7142857142857142857142857142857 and so forth...

How can you play 40 Plague Marines!?!

Let's imagine the scene:

Ol'Father Nurgle : "First shalt thou take out your whole Unholy Army. Then shalt thou count to Seven, no more, no less. Seven shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be Seven. Eight shalt thou not count (bloody -fanatics), neither count thou six (fing sex-addicts), excepting that thou then proceed to Seven. Nine is right out (goddn mock seers) . Once the number seven, being the seventh number, be reached, then formest thou thy first Plague Marine squad. Likewise, thou shall marshall thy remaining troops in squads of Seven, and Seven shall be the number of brothers in each of your squad."

Skalk Bloodaxe : "My beloved brothers of decay, I shall count to Seven, and, in my command, thou shall form up in squads of Seven!"

The Plague Marines : "Praise to the Lord of Decay."

Skalk Bloodaxe : "Right. Squad Smallpox, form up! 1.. 2.. 3.. 4.. 5.. 6.. 8."

Sgt. Smallpox : "Seven, sir."

Skalk Bloodaxe : "Seven."

Ol' Father Nurgle : " "




Ok, apart from that somewhat ironic fluff-related cutscene (or gut-scene ), I'm following your thread with great attention, for I love the way you manage to give your minis a real Nurgle feel, even when it was not their first purpose!!!

So congratulations, I want to see more (and I want to see 7-men squads!!!)

Cheers,

Lol Yggdrasil! Hillarious, gave me a good laught and for that I thank you.


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maybe should'nt have qouted it, takes up a bit of space..

That was the best thing I am going to read all week!

I assure you that I am virulent Space Marine dedicated to Nurgle and that I revere the holy number seven. Long have I sacrificed the pursuit of victory to ensure that I properly roleplayed my army. I am a devote believer that the first 90% of a Codex is description of how and why you should play an army and the list in the back is merely the mechanics of the game.

That being said, I am in the process of painting an army that will eventually wind up on an APOC table and I'm painting new units in large batches. Don't think of my army as being literally 10, 20, 40... think of it as ten squads of 7 models each.

Thanks for following along. I've checked out your stuff quite a few time and I am humbled. You have already inspired me to strive for a higher standard.


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Admittedly I have played squads of 14, but that's just 7 x 2....

Hmm, now I know the numbers of chaos. Seven has always been my lucky and most sought out number my whole life...
Hmm(thinks back to before he was one and had pneumonia seven times)

Nurgle has marked me PRAISE THE LORD OF DECAY AND EVERLASTING LIFE!

Update for the weekend. My PIP heads didn't arrive but my Autocannons did so I decided to fire up this project on top of everything else I'm working on. I started with an old RT Chaos Space Marines w/ the old Heavy Bolter. I did not point this, this is a score from eBay. It looked kind of Tzeentch-like so of course I thought it would be quite funny to convert him into a Death Guard Havoc.

Here's how he started, and where he is so far:



There's some GS in his future.

Last night I played a game with my friend and we decided on 2,350 pts. Here's a pic of my forces. You may notices that there are 7 Marines per squad. And while you can't really see them in this picture, there is a Havoc squad on the other side of the Rhinos, which means I have 7 squads of 7 Death Guard each.


As the battle progressed I learned that I really need to have my Aspiring Champions that are kitted out like Aspiring Champions should be (meaning somerthing other than just the standard isssue. They have slots for extra wargear for a reason). To that end I've been working on these today. Power Fists, Plasma Pistols, and a Combi-weapon for starters. I put a lot of work into these conversions. The astute observer will see multiple kit bashs.







Each one of these Champions are going to be assigned to different squads, but I can also use some of them to create a a unit of Chosen which is very likely to happen as I continue to experiment with the list. I didn't field my Daemon Prince. Which reminds me, I didn't finish him yet. I meant to do that this weekend. Eh. Back in a while.

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote: I assure you that I am virulent Space Marine dedicated to Nurgle and that I revere the holy number seven. Long have I sacrificed the pursuit of victory to ensure that I properly roleplayed my army. I am a devote believer that the first 90% of a Codex is description of how and why you should play an army and the list in the back is merely the mechanics of the game.

AMEN to that my friend. Warhammer 40k is a game designed for role playing fun in my opinion!

Hmm...Going back to RT I would have to say i don't really like the chaos marine's design. a little too lanky for my taste. I do however like the 2nd ed. A bit bulkier.


As for the Aspiring Champion. I usually have one in each squad. I haven't given any of mine plasma's but I do have two dedicated to just that. One I call the Jester, and one that has a dual-ended chain staff that counts as a power weapon.
OH! almost forgot about my skull champion, just a power axe. My plague champion that has a power sword. gonna start painting him soon. That and he has a converted sword, I'll prob make a blog about my army or something, and my aspiring sorcerer, but who doesn't have that if they have T-sons?

I like what youve done with that RT chaos marine - It looks good without the bolt pistol arm.

Another update. This one not so much to show what is done, but to give a "behind the scenes" look at the multiple projects I have on the table right now.

First the the Autocannon Havoc. I added some GS to bulk him out a bit. It'll still wind up looking a bit weedier than the rest, but I'm ok with that. Yes I know I messed up the right knee and his elbow joint. I have already fixed it, you'll see the correction in the next pics.



Next is a regular squad of Plague Marines, nothing special except that I have started to clearly mark their packs so I can tell one squad from another when they all pile in or have to share close quarters in my deployment zone. I'll likely model a couple Special Weapons that I can alternate in and out of the squad as needed.



Here's the progress I've made on the Aspiring Champions. It doesn't look like much but I'm moving right along, I expect they will be done by the weekend barring and unforeseen circumstances. And after this pic was taken I had some leftover GS so I "Nurgled" them up a bit more. You'll see the results in the next update.



And finally, the part of the update you've been looking forward to (or at least I'll pretend you were, it makes me feel more important) the completed Daemon Prince:





I was going to use one of the more dynamic bases (like the one I have my World Eaters Dreadnought but I decided that extra couple millimeters might mean the difference between a cover save or not.

Ha.

But in all seriousness I used the plain base was because I was going to flock it with the same stuff I have used for the entire army since the beginning of time and rather than bury a pretty cool and animated base, I kept my army theme together and saved the base for a different model some other time. I reserve the option to change my mind at a later date.

No word on the PIP heads but that's actually a good thing. With the projects I have open right now I'm actually happy that they didn't show up today and I can't get to the post office until Saturday morning. Plenty of time to finish up at least the Aspiring Champion squad.

That's it for this one. As always, thanks for following along and being part of this. What's funny to me is that the intent of this was to display my old army and add a couple things, but I went insane and have nearly doubled it since I started this thread. You know what... I'll be back in a little while with another picture. I'm interested in seeing just exactly how much this has changed.

So yeah, back later tonight. Thanks for reading.


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From this playable army:



to this:



and this is almost everything I have:



I need a Land Raider. I have to stop buying fiddly bitz on eBay and just do it.

Also open to other suggestions. Anything else you don't see that I should have? One of these days I'll write up my army list on what you see here.

It's turning out really good Skalk!
Hmm at first I was going to suggest a dread but you already have one Lol.
LR and Defiler would look nice in that army!
Too bad Blight Drones can't be used outside of Apoc yet.

Nice work. Nugle-y but not OTT. I like the DP. He looks intimidating, but again not over the top eww gross.

zadelistol- I like Chaos Dreadnoughts. They look very cool and when they work correctly they can lay down a barrage that would make a Space Marine Captain duck for cover. Unfortunately my luck with them has invariably been watching them charge headlong across the table into unsupported close combat, or spend a turn ripping up my own troops. A few games ago I had both of my Dreadnoughts side by side in the middle of the table (intimidation factor) and on the first turn they BOTH rolled a 1 for Fire Frenzy. Since for each Dreadnought the other was the closest unit on the battlefield they opened up on each other and when it was all over I had one Dread immobilized and the other was destroyed. On my first turn. My opponents genuinely enjoy when I play Dreadnoughts. Horray for 115 points per model of absolutely nothing worthwhile!

I still may add another couple Dreadnoughts because I like how they look and enjoy modeling them. Can't say I'd look forward to seeing them on the table much though. Maybe I need to play World Eaters w/ a lot of Berzerkers and have Kharne lead my Dreadnoughts. I can't imagine that anything bad would happen!

I really really really need a Land Raider. I think once I get my call pay from work I'm going to bite the bullet and just get one. I would prefer eBay because I would rather take a used LR that was a bit cobbed up by someone else and convert it to my needs because lets face it, a NIB isn't going to make any difference for my army. I don't require the same clean lines that an Ultramarines force would. But of course there's nothing remotely worthwhile on eBay right now. Well ok there's one I am looking at... but it's a surprise. If I get it I think I'll literally dance a short jig. Ha. I doubt it'll go in my reasonable price range. We'll see.

Once the PIP heads are here I'll have a lot of motivation to do more conversions. I'm not going to undo the work I have done already but there are a few models that might have their existing heads popped off just to compare the possibilities. Gas masks are really scary to me. I think they will be absolutely perfect for the next wave I am working on. All total I have no idea how many Plague Marines I'll have, but there's no doubt that (short of any significant armor) I could field an APOC force. That's pretty cool.

That's it for tonight. I'm off to the land where I can feel a boltpistol kicking in my hand and the jarring resistance of a chainsword as it rips from soft flesh to more resilient bone. Ahhh, sweet dreams.

wolfshadow wrote:Nice work. Nugle-y but not OTT. I like the DP. He looks intimidating, but again not over the top eww gross.

Just saw this, had to reply- thank you for checking this out and for the compliment! I am not striving for absolutely disgusting models (I already achieved that w/ my VC Zombies), I'm just going for a diseased and slightly necrotic Chaos Space Marine look. It's good to know that people are getting that same impression back.

Yeah that kinda stuff is the only thing keeping me from getting a dread>< That and keeping it when I do get AOBR and convert the models. The whole fire frenzy just...really puts me off to the warmachine.
Should just give it demonic possession and take away from its BS then do that bs.
I need a LR and termis just about as bad as your army does. I'll probably get NIB when I get them.

Daemon Prince looks nice, he matches the GW Nurgle old style pretty well!

You could get some more rhinos? old school death guard play where plague marines in rhinos where fast attack... good times! I don't really know what you could add more. It depends on what you prefer, though I would say some fast attack, mainly raptors because they are beast. Thoughness 6 nurgle bikes is also pretty good

Yggdrasil wrote:Daemon Prince looks nice, he matches the GW Nurgle old style pretty well!

Thank you. I take that as a genuine compliment because even with new models I want a cohesive feel to my army that ties it with the 2nd Ed stuff I started playing it with, so it is intentional. Granted, I am operating at the apex of my available painting skills... but I'm pretty satisfied with where all of this is at and even if I could dramatically improve I doubt I would apply it to this army because it would look out of place.

Rose_Mountainz wrote:You could get some more rhinos? old school death guard play where plague marines in rhinos where fast attack... good times! I don't really know what you could add more. It depends on what you prefer, though I would say some fast attack, mainly raptors because they are beast. Thoughness 6 nurgle bikes is also pretty good

I've been reading a lot of 4th Ed regarding the Plague Marine list. I'm going to stick with the 2 Rhinos for now (40K) but once APOC starts kicking into gear I'll likely revisit the amount of transport my army has. The more I read up the old lists the less I feel having Fast Attack would be properly roleplaying my army, so even though I'm accepting a tactical disadvantage that the current rules do not specifically impose I feel more honest in my approach to how I am playing my army. If I start feeling like I'm being stomped too often I can always pull out my Black Legion HQ and min / max stats from the 5th ed list for a Crusade force. Of course I'd be compromising my integrity and core principles, but it's a small price to pay for a brief moment of victory. Ha.


Tonights update is a bit rushed, but I decided to call these "done for now" because I have too many projects that are starting to creep up on me and I am feeling overwhelmed. This is how things wind up on my Shelf of Shame. I mentioned a few updates ago that I was going to start a super top-secret OTT conversion that was going to take quite some time to do correctly. Well, the model the conversion is based on arrived today. I have mapped out what needs to be done, what I need to do it, and what I expect to have when I am finished. The good news is that I'm stocked up for this. I bought some more Gray Stuff last week, I have all the parts necessary to build the model, I have a clear image of what I want the end result to be, and I'm motivated to start working on it.

The downer of this is that I have two other huge projects on the back burner that are about to fall right into my lap and demand to be done. I have the "gas mask" squads on deck (speaking of which those heads STILL haven't arrived. I'm not complaining yet. They are coming from England after all, and I ordered them Now 23rd. If they are not here this time next week I'll email the company w/ my order number and see if they have any info on when it might arrive) and after careful tracking on eBay I found a really good deal on a used Land Raider that will be here next week. Either of those projects would be huge on an individual level. Combined, along with Project X... I feel like I'm starting a new army from scratch! Suffice to say I don't see any painting or modeling in my foreseeable future that isn't Death Guard.

But anyway, here are my latest additions to the army. This is not a squad, these are Aspiring Champions created for other preexisting squads. And I still need a few more of them just to cover what I already have, and then I'll need more when the gas mask squads are built, but I'll worry about that later. For now, I present the newest Aspiring Champions in my Death Guard detachment:




These Aspiring Champions came into being after I was completely tabled by my friend's Orks. He was trying a Killa Kan Wall (three units of three Kans each) for the first time and it was devastatingly effective because (in part) I had very little that could fight back against it. I am not saying that this was the entire reason for my loss, but it was certainly a contributing factor. If you haven't played against an Ork player that fields a Kan Wall I suggest you try it sometime. It's awesome!



After my crushing defeat, Father Nurgle sent a vision to me. I was digging through my stuff trying to find something I wanted to upgrade my force with. I found a helm that had something familiar to it but didn't quite belong. A Wonder Saw helped me summon forth the helm that would crown my newest Champion, and soon after the rest of my new Champions fell into place after it.







There's multiple kit bashes and a number of genuine conversions there, as well as a small amount of GS that I didn't know what to do with after it was left over from my Death Guard Havoc w/ Autocannon. The paint job is kind of ehh, and there's things I should have done (like drill the barrels) that I didn't do, but I always can go back if I feel like it. As it is right now these are completely worthy of my tabletop and are a welcome addition to the force. Another benefit is that each Champions frees up a regular Plague Marine model from each squad so in effect I get an extra squad for the effort.

I am really hitting a stride here. I haven't had this much fun modeling and painting in years, it has a direct impact on what I field from game to game, and added together I have a place for every model in my force (i.e. if we played an APOC game).

More is coming. Much, much more. Updates may slow down a bit from this point for a while because I have a lot of stuff to do behind the scenes, but I'll be sure to share the gas mask squads and the Land Raider horror as soon as I have enough work done to share. As always, thanks for following along. It's decent to know that other people are into what I am doing.

Aspiring Champions looks awesome! Whole army is gret, ol' grandpa would be proud.
I too love dreadnoughts! Advice if you're gonna field em: kit them with DCCW, heavy bolter or missile launcher and always field 2 dreads next to each other. Since non of the weapons have high enough Strenght to score a glancing on a Dreads side armor, you wont have to worry about fire frenzy. So I say: Add another dreadnought to your army! (maybe someone like this? http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/162340-Nurgle%20Dread%20WIP.html?m=2)

Yeah, drill the barrels!!!

The champions look nice, I especially like the old power fist / claw on last pic's left-most champion... If it's really the one I think of lol

Limbo wrote:Aspiring Champions looks awesome! Whole army is gret, ol' grandpa would be proud.
I too love dreadnoughts! Advice if you're gonna field em: kit them with DCCW, heavy bolter or missile launcher and always field 2 dreads next to each other. Since non of the weapons have high enough Strenght to score a glancing on a Dreads side armor, you wont have to worry about fire frenzy. So I say: Add another dreadnought to your army! (maybe someone like this? http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/162340-Nurgle%20Dread%20WIP.html?m=2)

Thank you. I checked out your stuff and think it is excellent. I like the scheme you have with your Iron Warriors, classic and true! Your Dreadnought is amazing. Funny you should mention another Dreadnought. Yesterday there was a thread that had this in it and while I don't like this model specifically I think the idea is incredible and it has inspired me to create something similar (meaning the clear sarcophagus but have a WFB Ghoul torso or a non-GW Zombie / undead / corpse thing instead) and corrupt it akin to my Rhino and Predator. However, this is not going to happen for quite some time as I have at least the next month (if not longer) already scheduled for major conversion work. I work a job where I can actually paint during break and lunch so I'll be working on troops straight through, but the larger projects can only be done at home and I don't always have the time I need (and really, even if I were independent wealthy and never needed sleep again I still doubt I'd have enough time... ha). I get the weapon idea (can't destroy each other first turn) but I've usually looked at my Dreads as mobile HW platforms. I suppose I could kit them a bit more Close Combat like my World Eaters Dreadnought (2 CC weapons, Twin Link Bolter, Heavy Flamer)... it'll require a different mindset for my Death Guard as I see them more as a "stand back and shoot" than a "charge headlong into battle" kind of force.

Yggdrasil wrote:Yeah, drill the barrels!!!

The champions look nice, I especially like the old power fist / claw on last pic's left-most champion... If it's really the one I think of lol

You know, after looking at those pics this morning I'm embarrassed that I was so lazy. Just a couple extra minutes to drill the barrels... and really it should have been done during the build / conversion stage, not painting stage when I blew it off. I'm going to do it tonight when I get home. I'm also going to finish the Champion with the back banner. The original idea was to use that standard for the backbanner but then print out small "parchment" strips and attach them to the banner to signify badges either awarded directly to the Champion or ones that he ripped off the backbanners of Champions he had defeated. I'm going to do that tonight as well. The other projects can wait, they aren't going to go anywhere while they wait and rushing through something to call it done when it is falling short of the intended goal just so I can rushn into another project that will get set aside as I go to the next and the next... slooooooowwww dooowwnnn, chill... there's no deadline on this except my pending mortality, and I'm not expecting that anytime soon.

Pics of corrections soon.

Skalk Bloodaxe wrote:

Limbo wrote:Aspiring Champions looks awesome! Whole army is gret, ol' grandpa would be proud.
I too love dreadnoughts! Advice if you're gonna field em: kit them with DCCW, heavy bolter or missile launcher and always field 2 dreads next to each other. Since non of the weapons have high enough Strenght to score a glancing on a Dreads side armor, you wont have to worry about fire frenzy. So I say: Add another dreadnought to your army! (maybe someone like this? http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/162340-Nurgle%20Dread%20WIP.html?m=2)

Thank you. I checked out your stuff and think it is excellent. I like the scheme you have with your Iron Warriors, classic and true! Your Dreadnought is amazing. Funny you should mention another Dreadnought. Yesterday there was a thread that had this in it and while I don't like this model specifically I think the idea is incredible and it has inspired me to create something similar (meaning the clear sarcophagus but have a WFB Ghoul torso or a non-GW Zombie / undead / corpse thing instead) and corrupt it akin to my Rhino and Predator. However, this is not going to happen for quite some time as I have at least the next month (if not longer) already scheduled for major conversion work. I work a job where I can actually paint during break and lunch so I'll be working on troops straight through, but the larger projects can only be done at home and I don't always have the time I need (and really, even if I were independent wealthy and never needed sleep again I still doubt I'd have enough time... ha). I get the weapon idea (can't destroy each other first turn) but I've usually looked at my Dreads as mobile HW platforms. I suppose I could kit them a bit more Close Combat like my World Eaters Dreadnought (2 CC weapons, Twin Link Bolter, Heavy Flamer)... it'll require a different mindset for my Death Guard as I see them more as a "stand back and shoot" than a "charge headlong into battle" kind of force.

Thanks alot, was suprised to see some new models as top rated in my gallery. That dreadnought's sweet, I really hope you'll find the time to put together a rotting corpse bathing in its own pus =) I'm seeing a really old pickle for some reason....
Btw, how sane are your Dreadnoughts?