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Thoroughly enjoyed it. When what's-her-face with the broken/twisted neck was walking backwards towards them (even though the entrance to the building was indeed in the direction she was walking, yet the only plausible place she could have exited) and one of them said "just drive" I assumed they were going to just run her over. Apparently reversing in the other direction caused her to fall over sufficiently, so no worries. /ramble
The trailer for the next one looks very interesting.
I was quite disappointed by the new torchwood. I appreciate that it's made to be shown in the US as well as the Uk but I feel that they have made it entirely for america rather than both. IMO they have lost a lot of what made torchwood good. I really don't like the way they have made the CIA far ahead of torchwood when the first few series show torchwood as being more powerful than any human based organisation. The american characters are much more useful than either Gwen or Jack. I wasn't a fan of them going over to the US either. It may be me but I got the "feth yeah go america" feel which is a shame as I loved the first 3 series.
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CadianXV wrote:Did any of the UK viewers experience sound balancing issues?..................... but I hope they rectify this annoyance.
That would be the Welsh accents mate, but since she is a main character I can't see it being rectified.
I was better but still only okay. Still seems a bit like they are trying to be a bit 24 to me.
Nope thats not it. I live in Cardiff, and can understand Welsh accents perfectly. It was the music drowning out the words I was complaining about, not how the characters were speaking. I take it you didn't experience this?
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CadianXV wrote:Did any of the UK viewers experience sound balancing issues?..................... but I hope they rectify this annoyance.
That would be the Welsh accents mate, but since she is a main character I can't see it being rectified.
I was better but still only okay. Still seems a bit like they are trying to be a bit 24 to me.
Nope thats mohoni. Buchedda i mewn Caerdydd , a all ddeall Cymraeg acenion 'n anhyfreg. Bu 'r beroriaeth yn boddi i maes 'r eiriau Achwynwn am , mo fel 'r chymeriadau were yn areithio. Chymera 'i 'ch didn't brofi hon?
Hmmmm?
Not a word?
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4M2A wrote:IMO they have lost a lot of what made torchwood good.
As someone who loves Who and couldn't even make it through the first season before giving up on Torchwood, I find myself unable to make sense of your statement.
Like all things it's subjective. Torchwood is certainly very different to Dr Who. While the setting is the same the roles the characters fill is much darker and the show looks at the Dr Who setting from another perspective. A lot of things which are key to Dr Who are reversed in torchwood so it would make sense that some people who like Dr who hate torchwood. I find Dr Who watchable at best, I love the deep, interesting setting but don't like the type of stories doctor who focuses on. This has just become worse recently- there is no suspence or concern for the characters because they are obviously going to be ok and if the die they will be saved later on. I like a lot of the characters but can't stand the Doctor. For me Torchwood took what I liked about Dr Who and made story lines I found much more interesting.
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Nope thats mohoni. Buchedda i mewn Caerdydd , a all ddeall Cymraeg acenion 'n anhyfreg. Bu 'r beroriaeth yn boddi i maes 'r eiriau Achwynwn am , mo fel 'r chymeriadau were yn areithio. Chymera 'i 'ch didn't brofi hon?
Trawiadol. Rydych yn Gymraeg felly?
In other news, I have discovered that snotlings have been messing with the T.V. So just my sound thats been messed up.
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.. kind of a "Sucker Punch" vibe to it in parts.. yes..? ... no.. ?
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Episode 8: Let's Kill Hitler
Written by Steven Moffat
The gang's all back! The Doctor, Amy, River and Rory return in what promises to be an action-packed belter of an adventure. So far the following details have emerged:
'In the desperate search for Melody Pond, the TARDIS crash lands in 1930s Berlin, bringing the Doctor face to face with the greatest war criminal in the Universe. And Hitler. The Doctor must teach his adversaries that time travel has responsibilities - and in so doing, learns a harsh lesson in the cruellest warfare of all.'
We also know it features Albert Welling as Hitler and is directed by Richard Senior, previously at the helm for Time and Space plus the Doctor Who pre-title sequence for this year's NTA awards.
Episode 9: Night Terrors
Written by Mark Gatiss
Mark Gatiss has previously written spooky episodes including The Unquiet Dead and The Idiot's Lantern, but he promises that Night Terrors features some of the scariest moments he's ever dreamt up! The adventure has a modern day setting and features a little boy who has a fear of something... Can the Doctor help him?
Episode 10: The Girl Who Waited
Written by Tom MacRae
Tom MacRae's previous credits include The Rise of the Cybermen/The Age of Steel plus the critically acclaimed The Crash of the Elysium. This is his first television adventure for the Eleventh Doctor and it's directed by Nick Hurran who was recently at the helm for the updated version of the cult classic, The Prisoner.
Episode 11: The God Complex
Written by Toby Whithouse
We know the adventure is set in a hotel and features an alien called Gibbis played by David Walliams. Again, the episode is directed by Nick Hurran and as writer Toby Whithouse was behind School Reunion and The Vampires of Venice, we know we've got something special to look forward to!
Episode 12
Written by Gareth Roberts
Craig Owens is back! The popular character from last year's The Lodger returns and judging from the trailer for eps 8-13 he's getting closer than ever to the Doctor! The adventure is written by Gareth Roberts whose credits include Attack of the Graske, The Unicorn and the Wasp and, of course, The Lodger.
Episode 13
Written by Steven Moffat
The big finale! This one remains shrouded in mystery but Karen Gillan has promised us that the series will contain 'possibly the biggest twist so far'... Is it possible that this is the adventure that delivers it? Steven Moffat penned last year's incredible finale but it's probable that this adventure will conclude the series with a bigger bang than ever!
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"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
SO. Farewell then to another executive producer at Doctor Who, with Beth Willis following Piers Wenger out the door. A PR storm has already followed the Eye’s revelations of behind-the-scenes calamity under the leadership of the gruesome twosome and the reduced number of episodes that will air next year.
This time the corporation was taking no chances. As Willis prepared to return to her former employer, independent producer Kudos, BBC Drama controller Ben Stephenson and showrunner Steven Moffat lined up to offer fulsome praise (and there’s a phrase that’s often misused).
Meanwhile more lowly staff at BBC Wales – uncowed by a threat of punishment “in the strongest possible way” should they be proved to have leaked any information to Private Eye – tell us that “we are planning a party for the day they leave Wales, and we will be buying a cake for your informant when we discover who it was.”
Tardis not cleared for take-off
Production on Doctor Who is meanwhile running several months behind the usual schedule. The Christmas special – hitherto filmed in June or July each year – will not see cameras roll until September. Filming on the next series customarily starts shortly afterwards: this time the Tardis is unlikely to take flight before February next year.
The corporation’s commercial arm, BBC Worldwide has had a good look at the figures for 2009, the last year when a smaller number of episodes than usual aired, and has noted that sales of its flagship kids’ title Doctor Who Adventures dropped by nearly two-thirds. It has now reconsidered plans for a massive magazine partwork it was to release in the run-up to the programme’s 50th anniversary in 2013. It has, to use a technical publishing term, been “gak canned”.
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We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
So, with the new trailer out, anyone have any idea what the eye patch thing does? I think it might constantly project an image of a silent into that eye so that the wearer can remember them. Since they're making a comeback and people deal with them, they must have worked something out.
I was wondering something similar, if perhaps they have an eye removed and it's kept alive elsewhere and they're still linked to it -- through technology a bit like the meat puppets from earlier in the series -- and that's how they see the Silence so they don't forget them.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
reds8n wrote:I was wondering something similar, if perhaps they have an eye removed and it's kept alive elsewhere and they're still linked to it -- through technology a bit like the meat puppets from earlier in the series -- and that's how they see the Silence so they don't forget them.
Better yet: they make a Flesh copy of the eye, the eyepatch is what connects the real eye to the copy, and they put the eye in a room with a captured silent. You'd have just a whole wall of eyes staring at a chained silent, which makes Jenny's accusing wall of eyes thing in Almost People a piece of foreshadowing instead of just a random oddity.
reds8n wrote:I was wondering something similar, if perhaps they have an eye removed and it's kept alive elsewhere and they're still linked to it -- through technology a bit like the meat puppets from earlier in the series -- and that's how they see the Silence so they don't forget them.
Better yet: they make a Flesh copy of the eye, the eyepatch is what connects the real eye to the copy, and they put the eye in a room with a captured silent. You'd have just a whole wall of eyes staring at a chained silent, which makes Jenny's accusing wall of eyes thing in Almost People a piece of foreshadowing instead of just a random oddity.
reds8n wrote:I was wondering something similar, if perhaps they have an eye removed and it's kept alive elsewhere and they're still linked to it -- through technology a bit like the meat puppets from earlier in the series -- and that's how they see the Silence so they don't forget them.
Better yet: they make a Flesh copy of the eye, the eyepatch is what connects the real eye to the copy, and they put the eye in a room with a captured silent. You'd have just a whole wall of eyes staring at a chained silent, which makes Jenny's accusing wall of eyes thing in Almost People a piece of foreshadowing instead of just a random oddity.
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that is all.
inmygravenimage wrote:Have courage, faith and beer, my friend - it will be done!
.. it's going a bit too slowly for me really, some of the episodes feel a little dragged out.
Pullman has been astoundingly good however, he's fascinating in every scene that he's in.
Digging the overall plot, just wish they'd move things along a little faster, not least as i have increasing trouble believing that the world is as calm and ordered as it's being portrayed as being, I think they'd be much more disruption and chaos.
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I agree. Children of Earth worked brilliantly because it was five episodes long. Miracle day is ten, and seems to be progressing at half the pace because of it. I realise the series needs time to introduce the new characters, but so far the plot doesn't seem to warrant being twice as long.
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CadianXV wrote:I agree. Children of Earth worked brilliantly because it was five episodes long. Miracle day is ten, and seems to be progressing at half the pace because of it. I realise the series needs time to introduce the new characters, but so far the plot doesn't seem to warrant being twice as long.
Theres a plot now?
Seriously though, i completely agree, its slow and nothing much is happening, getting a bit bored...
inmygravenimage wrote:Have courage, faith and beer, my friend - it will be done!
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
This is English actress Nina Toussaint-White. She appears in the upcoming run of Doctor Who, playing the character Mels.
She’s best known for a run on British soap Eastenders a couple of years ago and has worked in theatre since. But she will appear in the upcoming episode, Let’s Kill Hitler.
A name similar to a previous companion (Mel) and a current baby companion (Melody)? Doctor Who only gets that clumsy with surnames such as Smith and Jones… first names are usually kept unique. And with other people credited playing younger versions of her in the same episode?
All I can say is this… keep a close eye on Nina Toussaint-White when she appears on Doctor Who at the end of the month. Her moment has been prepared for.
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"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
I've skipped the last 3 pages of this thread to avoid potential Torchwood spoilers but now I've seen Let's kill Hitler and I need to talk about it.
This episode was soooo awesome! Okay, maybe that has something to do with the fact that I didn't get any new Doctor Who for months, but I loved it anyway.
Spoiler:
That's the thing about Doctor Who. You don't just do an episode about the Doctor travelling back in time to meet Hitler. There's also a robot of time traveling miniature people. How do they come up with this stuff?
The revelations about River were really fun, though they do a time loop explanation again, by telling River her name is River because her name is River. Missed some potential character development there.
While this could be an end to the River Song over-exposure some people have been complaining about, I really hope we get to see more of here as a kid. At least for Amy's sake.
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I didn't like the episode. It wasn't as much "Let's Kill Hilter!" as "Let's Kill Hitler! At least for the first 5 minutes, then skip to something completely different and forget about him."
After that it was really just a messy episode.
The only highlight was
Spoiler:
Dr Who in a top hat and tux with a sonic cane
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Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation
Who looks at a cane and goes 'Ooh, this could be a little more sonic'?
The Doctor clearly.
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corpsesarefun wrote:I agree with avatar completely.
Spoiler:
the whole use regeneration energy to save someone that is dead is such an overused cop out too
Well would you have preferred it if the doctor died?
Yes, then regenerated instead of not being able. I mean what the hell was "regeneration disabled"?!? How do you disable a biological function like that?
Rediculous. I've generally disliked the 11th Doctor's episodes.. but this one was just terrible. I absolutely hated it. Avatar was right, it wasn't even Lets Kill Hitler, it was Lets Save Hitler.
I think if we still had Russell T Davies, this Doctor would work very well. The terrible script writing is just unbelievably bad.
Anung, if you would, I'd be pleased if you could give an explanation as to why you enjoyed the episode so much. I can understand that different people will like different things, but I'm actually very interested as to how anyone could enjoy that episode.
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