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I really like the skull head for the pitslave boss, although I liked it more in the previous iteration. I think it is too small for a mask, but it would look great as a bionic head. Maybe add a few cables going in to it.

I also preferred the skull head on the female fighter, but again, it was too small to be a mask. I think with some cables added she would look really sinister and have loads of character - it's 40k after all, you can be a skull-headed pincer-clawed half-naked pitslave vixen, if I was redoing my pitslaves I would add more of this sort of grimdark weirdness. The new version looks a bit too conventional, and the neck is a bit off.

The final model with the shotgun works very well.

Some great stuff in here, I really like the pit slave gang, the leader looks great. I do have to agree on the skull heads though, the one on the leader seems a little small to me. The mad max guy is a nice conversion, I have been looking for something to do with that guy, are they scion arms with a scout shotgun by any chance?

 Bruticus wrote:
I really like the skull head for the pitslave boss ...

I also preferred the skull head on the female fighter ...

I too am a fan of the Skull Head

Crew looks great though, will look forward to paint

- Salvage

@LDD - Thank you for the feed back, both the positive and constructive. taking it all on board

@Bruticus - cheers. I liked the skulls too and your right I will go back and have another look at the girl.

@C Lion - cheers for the feed back. Yes they are scion shoulder pads with marine scout arms

@Salvage - thanks for the possitive words. My painting is notoriously lax but I hope to please.

It is interesting the feedback on the size of the skull. The torso is massive. I have found in the past with oversized models (Scallies etc) that keeping the head to regular scale gives the impression of a large and bloated character. If you scale the head up to the size of the body then it just looks like a model that is a different scale to 28mm. The skull head he has is already the size of a marine helmet.

I have tried to take the feedback on board firstly with the female slave.





I tried lots of stuff including changing the angle of the head and it's possition, but in the end went back to the skull taking The given advice of 'embracing the grimdark'. I added the headdress to tie her a little more to other members of the gang and to try and make it more obviously a helmet.



With my chief. The skull feedback was pretty strong do here is something different,the visor and top knot keep that 80's thunderdome feeland the hair hopefully takes it suitabley away from looking like an Ellysian. I like my ladders to have faces not masks so it also adds a bit of humanity.



I might be brave and remove his legs as his feet are very nurgley.. Yes that is a word.

Nathanie1 out.

Wow the transformation of the female slave is unbelievable it was not a miniature I was feeling at all but now she really captures my interest

The repositioning of the head looks correct and the simple addition of the head dress pulls the concept together perfectly loving it now.

Also the the leader or at least I think that's what you meant (pretty sure ladder was not intentional) is looking so much better and balanced, yes the head is still smaller than the body but does not look lost within it.

The hair piece helps alter the origins of the head but maybe a little GS to the front top action might be an idea, make the 2 rectangle plates into 1 piece and a some small rivets perhaps ?

Either way all looks great mate and a vast improvement, as to the feet maybe remove one and add a Killa kan foot or scratchbuild something similar.

@LDD - Yes you are right the head needs a little more to take him away from being an Elysian, those are good suggestions. they all need cabling added and I made a load yesterday using the tube tool so hopefully it will be hardened enough to attach today. thanks for the continued feedback it really helps.

Did some bits and bobs on the wyrd, trying to take on some of the advice from the feedback

I am the Law.....


















RUFF!

So, I managed to sell my realm of battle gaming board on eBay for a good chunk of money and decided to reinvest the cash into the raw materials for my very own board.

King Redwart posted some cool terrain links for inspiration and in the end I settled for a foam board that I could cut into so I could make a sewer system and a sump.

I have always loved the idea of a big chem pit, ever since the necromunda articles in white dwarfs showed gangers fighting amongst dripping pipes and pools of green ooze. If I was going to make my own board a sump had to be a part of it

I started off by building the wooden box that will essentially be the chasis of the board. It's light and durable and when the trestle hinges arrive from eBay (can't get trestle hinges at homebase or B&Q, wtf?) It will fold in half with the board protected on the inside



The central beams of wood are slightly shorter than the outside sections....





The plan is to fill the trays with an expandible foam up to the height of the thinner central beams. This should mean the whole board is one level surface that I can then cut down in to to create the sump pool and the sewer system. It also means that the're will be a 2cm lip of wood running around the outside of the board to keep dice on the table and create some breathing space when the board is closed so the two terrain surfaces do not squash and damage each other.

Up to this point everything has been going well, my general lack of experience has not cost me in any great way, everything measures right and fits firm.

However I have just tried to "fill" my board with expandable foam.



So for a start it was the stickiest stuff on earth and exploded everywhere when I first punched the nozzle. Then after about 15 seconds the can was empty! In a panic that it might ruin the board I have scraped it all in to one corner and I am now perenially prodding it suspiciously. The can said it can be sanded once dry which made me think it was ideal but I have got such a small yield from it I am going to have to find an alternative.

So chaps I need advice. I need somyhing I can fill the box I have built! It has to be very light but sturdy enough that it can 've leant on once the board is complete. I am nervouse about bobble pollystyrene but maybe there is an alternative that I am unaware of?

Nathaniel1 out.

pink or blue extruded styrofoam is your best bet sheap is durable and easy to carve i made a table out of it and its great

Yeah pink or blue foam, you can get it from antenocitis workshop posted I think. Cut it with a bread knife. I think you could use cheaper foam if you were careful about leaning on it and coated it in something though. Lightweight polyfila is good stuff, will protect the foam from spray paint or sump resin too.

Table looks cool so far.

Yes basically what they both said however go to B@Q check there out side storage section, there they have large packs of this insulation foam board it's an orange/pinky colour.

Now this can be cut and shaped and due to the size of these sheets should fit well into the sections with spare for adding levels if you wish, these could be stand alone pieces that are placed on the main board.

Anyway good luck mate if you need more info let me know as my pack still has the original packing on it still.

Cheers for the feedback fellas. I looked at some reviews of the foam I used that said it was rubbish. I have it another chance after someone recommended another brand on yak. I got this much coverage from 1 can



At 9 quid thats pretty solid

Spent most of the day getting an even and flat surface before cutting in the sewer system. It was a very satisfying process and now that the basic shape is in place I feel much more confident that it won't inhibit terrain deployment as much as I thought. A mesh platform will go over most of the pit so it won't be a hamper in the corner either.





On the way home from our regular club night, Alobar and I were spitballing different terrain feature ideas and he mentioned fans. This has got me thinking it would be cool to have some built in to the floor, mostly covered with mesh grating but won where the cover is torn through so we can have a fan hazard like every good James Bond film

Nice work on your various little people.

I would have said that expanded polystyrene is usable as a base if you give it a coating of plaster to protect it and give a stronger surface. This is what I did on my recent UFO crash piece.

However, what you have there appears to be working fine. Keep at it.

Hey Dr H - I am coating it in polyfiller as soon as I have cut in everywhere I need to. Will check out your UFO crash piece!

Good luck. Look forward to your progress.

The building of the UFO base starts here:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/3540/471119.page#7604574

@ Dr H thats really cool, very inspiring stuff. I am looking forward to getting down to the detail work on the board, rubble, corpses, tentacles etc.

Alobar over on yaktribe came over this morning to do a few test games before I apply polyfiller and making changes becomes more difficult.





I was really pleased with the way it played, the river did not effect building layout in any way and I even managed to knock his leader into the drink which was very satisfying.

I am really tempted to cut in some much narrower trenches throughout the board, these would allow gangers to move short distances without worrying about the high BS overwatch that always plagues our longer campaigns and they could easily be covered if not wanted during a match.

I have to decide by tomorrow afternoon so will get my thinking cap on.

That board is going to be ace to play on. Trenches, holes and fans (gotta be fans on all good necro boards) all sound perfect. The necro buildings can probably bridge smaller trenches anyway without effecting stability too much.

Nice living room too btw.

Thanks Nathanie1. That board looks great set up like that.

I look forward to tentacles (and the rest of it).

I played another couple of games on the board with KingRedwart on Yak this morning, we both bemoaned the difficulty of getting people in to hand to hand combat after gangs start getting significant shooting increases, I told him about my initial plans for building trenches in to the board and with a little nudging that it would work we sketched out where they would go and before I knew it I had cut them out





The point Red made was that if they are narrow enough they could easily be covered laying down plasticard. He also mentioned that I could place walkways along the sump canals to encourage people to walk along them, using the raised bank as cover.

I was thinking about that idea later and I thought of a plan that would maybe make such gantries have more than one use. If I put the gantries on hinges they could be laid down to make a walkway or raised to make railing walls along the sides of the canal giving fighters more cover



Taking this idea further, when applied to the narrower trenches the gantries would probably fold down to create a complete cover so building could be placed over the trench and they would not effect terrain placement, but in clear areas could be raised to again give more cover and allow access to move models through the trench system.


top down view

I don't know if this idea can be practically realised, or even that I have explained it clearly enough to make sense to anyone. I will need to find some small hinges that only fold out 180 degrees first and give it a test, but I like the idea of incorporating something to the board that can be used for several purposes

Looking good, it's gonna be epic when it's painted!
Are the buildings from Pegasus?

Great stuff as usual Nathanie1 (better explain that as you may not have it in England. Great Stuff is the go to expanding foam over here in the states ) I was a little hesitant about what you were doing with the expanded foam, but it looks great so far. Will be interested to see how you proceed with the fill on top.

It's been a strange few months. The release of AoS and apparent death of Warhammer fantasy sent quite a few people at my gaming group into damage control, desperately trying to buy as much as possible before it potentially dissapears forever.

Personally I am not so worried, I have no interest in playing AoS but I have faith that the new models will provide an exciting new source for kitbashing 8th ed armies. I am already tempted to make a khorne force from the bloodbound stuff.

I could not help but get pulled along with everyone starting/ adding to / completing their armies so I decided to reinvigorate my empire army which was a project that never really left the runway. I kicked things off today with a battle standard and a unit of handgunners.













I spent a long time positioning the unit, I like trying to include little stories in the posing of the models, I am particularly pleased with the guy reaching to grab the monkey. I also had a lot of fun kit bashing the halfling, I need to get hold of some other knoblar bodies to see if this is something that would work well enough for me to try and produce a unit or at least a halfling hotpot

Our gaming club is changing location and starting a Nordheim campaign, I tried to throw as much together today as possible, as a result its even more cut and shut than usual at the moment, lots to fill in and smooth down.

Most of you have probably seen Bruticus's undead war band on ex profundis (if you haven't you are doing it wrong). Any way here is my effort.

That vampire is brilliant. I have to admit I'd really like to see what it would look like with the head facing to the other side, the wing thrown up behind like a theatrical vampire cape.

I love that chaos cultist head for a fantasy model, I've just done that myself. Something very satisfying about sneaking 40k bits into fantasy.

I have to say, I think round bases are superior for skirmish games.

How are your pitslaves doing? We have similar tastes in what gangs we choose.

@Bruticus Cheers bud. The head was facing that way originally but can't get it to work in that direction along with his armour. He is not quite right though yet, may reassemble and see if I can get him at his best. I am a big fan of the bat face that was salvaged from part of the corpse cart chassis so I want it to be fully visible.

As a man who sneaks fantasy into 40K at every opportunity, yes it is fun when there is the chance to get it working the other way round

I would have gone round too but I may use the characters for fantasy so wanted to keep them square and then followed suit with the rest for consistency

the pits laves never really took off. could not get my leader right and then my Redemptionists became very fluffy and fun to play in the campaign, as a result the slaves are on ice for now. Also there was another player who has made some awesome slaves. You can check them out here

https://yaktribe.org/community/threads/batteries-not-included-king-redwarts-pit-slaves.3368/page-4




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I tinkered around with the vampire taking on Bruticus's suggestions



I changed the shoulder armour to something less bulky, i found the wings on the hips of the wight King I am turning into a questing knight, it aloud me to turn the head and it came with a cool key that went perfectly over the chest





I also started work on the guals, I wanted them to look more solid and muscular so I changed out the torso and biceps for a plague bearers





I am pretty pleased with the result, the back would have gone together perfectly but I was over zealous in my snipping so I had to green stuff

I am going to have to go back and see how this works with some more scares after this

Don't know what I was thinking when I came into the thread. I seriously thought there would be an undead hooker . Lover the vampire conversion......wait he looks like he's a vampire pimp giving the undead ho a back hand/wing.

Pile o' cool.

Looking forward to seeing how this turns out,

I'm also looking forward to seeing what you do with building mordheim scenery.

Completely awesome looking undead.