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Thing is, you could just differentiate them with the paint job

Something's fishy about those elite infantry...


I do like the look of them, but... we'll have to wait on rules

Why do I feel that the Shaltari Tribes will be overpowered, in game? They seem to have vehicles with the best weapons and infantry with the best armor, coupled with the ability to use their light gates... wowza!

Squidmanlolz wrote:Why do I feel that the Shaltari Tribes will be overpowered, in game? They seem to have vehicles with the best weapons and infantry with the best armor, coupled with the ability to use their light gates... wowza!

But we haven't heard a single thing really about what their weaponry and infantry guns do. And who's to say that their light gates don't essentially work in the same fashion as the other faction's dropships.

To be perfectly honest, I'm starting to lose interest in this game. Fancy models are fine and all, but we've heard piss all about the rules, and that'll make/break the game for me, at least.

infinite_array wrote:

Squidmanlolz wrote:Why do I feel that the Shaltari Tribes will be overpowered, in game? They seem to have vehicles with the best weapons and infantry with the best armor, coupled with the ability to use their light gates... wowza!

But we haven't heard a single thing really about what their weaponry and infantry guns do. And who's to say that their light gates don't essentially work in the same fashion as the other faction's dropships.

To be perfectly honest, I'm starting to lose interest in this game. Fancy models are fine and all, but we've heard piss all about the rules, and that'll make/break the game for me, at least.

I was going off of these quotes, and sheer looks and some speculation between the two.

Ocelot Warstrider - Armed with the awesome particle cannon! The most powerful line of sight weapon in the game (so far...)

Braves - 3 per base, since they fight in armoured warsuits!

Shaltari Firstborns - Formidable opponents in CQB!

They seem to be more of an all-'rounder army than the others, but I agree that we will need to see rules soon. Pre-orders are only in another week or so anyway, right? Undoubtedly, we should see rules then.

Oh, internets . People are "losing interest" when we just found out the game existed 2 months ago, and will find out all about the rules / battle reports / etc next week. Sheesh!

Looks to me like the Shaltari will be an expensive (in points), elite army with most units held off-board and deployed via light gates, with the size of the gate determining what units can be deployed), so while they may have "The most powerful LoS weapon in the game" and Elite infantry, they're going to have a hard time concentrating those units where they're needed. They'll need to protect their gates because losing one means cutting off their forces from part of the board.

That's the impression I get from the models & statements so far - which is a shame, because that's a playstyle I'd really enjoy, but the Scourge models are the ones I want more

RiTides wrote:Oh, internets . People are "losing interest" when we just found out the game existed 2 months ago, and will find out all about the rules / battle reports / etc next week. Sheesh!

Enthusiasm and excitement has been pretty consistently high for two solid months now (which is quite an achievement), fatigue is setting in - especially now that we've seen the models, and have almost no rules information to go on.

So, shall we talk alternate paint schemes?
I've decided on the UCM and have been throwing around potential patterns for a while now.
I was thinking of either doing a winter theme with everything being in white with off-white/blue round shaped "shadowed in grey.
OR
Tigerstripe, dark olive green with black stripes outlined in tan
OR
a desert camo with vehicles being painted in "Chocolate Chip" desert tan, with smallish brown lines and clusters of black dots.

Druidic wrote:Thing is, you could just differentiate them with the paint job

Of course, but that does seem to be the only way. I'm not asking for much; a slightly different helmet, shoulder pads, some small aesthetic other than "different weapons". The PHR and Scourge infantry types are so wildly different I don't think I'm asking for a lot.

Ohhh; alternative paint schemes! I'm thinking about doing the Shaltari royal purple and bone. Would love to hear some other suggestions though.

Fair point, Charax! I definitely don't mind people posting honestly their opinions of models / timeline, etc. I just think it's silly that someone could lose interest in a game we had no idea existed just over 2 months ago!

Lots of games put out teasers much further out (a year or more). I think people are frustrated here because everything seemed to be (and pretty much is, apparently) DONE and ready to go, but we couldn't quite get it yet. But still... one more week, it's not that much for him to ask to get his website in order

Well for my PHR, I'm thinking of going urban camo with different shades of gray. The immortals will have bronze face masks with the gray camo.

Razor Worms!

Scourge Razorworms - Alien hosts, captive bred for their awesome killing power.

I want to kill them. Possibly with fire.

Very creepy!

Well, I think that's pushed me very firmly in the scourge camp.

Interesting! Are there eyes, or maybe they only operate based on smell, or...?

I was interested by the fact the the worms were only alien hosts and not some actual Scourge organism.

Its funny how little things can persuade you.

I don't even like the scourge that much (I much prefer the UCM) but those Razorworms have tipped me over the edge. Great concept really well executed.

I will definitely be selling 40k stuff to fund an army (or 2 ) for this (send a PM if you want a tau or a sisters army, or they're going on ebay )

Can't wait for pre-orders to go up

Think I'd have to see the bare metal before I make a judgement on them, not really sold with that paintscheme.

Might have to convert them into Chtorran worms

I agree with Charax. Actually, I'd go further. These worms go in the small "do not like" pile. They're a great concept that, IMO, got rendered poorly. Dave's design strengths clearly trend more toward tech than organic. If this game takes off, I hope he will consider bringing someone in to redo the infantry and those worms.

I think you have too high expectations for the scale. These things are tiny and the pictures make them look much bigger than they actually are.

For comparison, I made a rough scaleshot for sirens VS Space marine



Kneecaps beware! Sirens are coming.

And again: Folks this is 10mm or smaller, the worms being slightly taller. That´s way better in comparison to what you often get in 15mm....

Can we stop assuming people who don't like something are just too stupid to understand things like scale?

Yes, they're tiny, yes, the detail is great, but sometimes it's not that which people don't like - with the Razorworms I'm getting a massive 80s B-movie vibe off them (They look like Critter-worms!), they don't look like they have teeth, and the painting of the "razors" on the underside is a little imprecise and blotchy

that doesn't mean I don't understand that 10mm is small, but they are valid reasons for needing to see the base model before deciding if the models are any good

You brought up the stupid, not anyone else.

On non-worm infantry stands: Biggest differences between them (IMHO) is paint job you do and number of models on base (5 for regular, 3 for elite). Otherwise they look pretty much same on the table.

I'll personally going to get Scourge and/or Post-humans based on their vehicle designs. I really don't see/care about infantry designs enough to base that decision on them.

Janzerker wrote:

Sirens, someone has been watching far "too much" red dwarf. Maybe they will morph into slimy worm things part way though the battle?

Having looked at this thread for a long time I'm still mystified as to what to collect Shaltari Tribes or United Colonies of Mankind.

Think i'm going for Shaltari Tribes simply for the warstrider models, just too cool.

ceorron wrote:Think i'm going for Shaltari Tribes simply for the warstrider models, just too cool.

This is my thinking, and that of a few others I know . That warstrider is one cool model!

UCM Kodiak Command Vehicle - This can call in tactical orbital strikes, so it isn't as harmless as it looks!

IMHO the UCM equivalent to artillery.

Janzerker wrote:
IMHO the UCM equivalent to artillery.

I think that it will remain strictly a command vehicle, the ability to call in bombardments keeps it from being only a moving objective though.

I'm tempted to paint a bulls-eye on the satellite dish, it seems that will be the only part that will stick out of cover in many scenarios.

One cool preview after another.


I really hope you consider doing 'two person' buy in army deals--as I could see a lot of players talking their gaming group into playing by having a ready made game on hand. Similar to PP's two person battle box.

Images of a new PHR walker, the Zeus. Pictures were posted by facebook user "Charlie Daemontail Miniatures"

Zeus? Seems likely to be a command walker. Name plus the heavier deopship interface ring. I suspect the 'shield' is for bringing thunder and lightning (orbital strikes). Which is kinda cool. Maybe if you take a Zeus and replace the railgun with one of the main guns from an Enyo, you get a Thor?

I'm hoping that if they do a specific HQ vehicle that you can customize it. In fact, a general ability to customize the walkers would be nice. But that's the BattleTech player in me talking.