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http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/21/justice/california-teacher-alleged-sex-assault/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

(CNN) -- A woman who says a female teacher from middle school sexually abused her for years decided to confront the teacher -- and post video of the exchange on YouTube.

Within hours, the educator resigned from her job at another school in California. Police launched an investigation. And the former student, who once felt powerless, now says she feels vindicated knowing the ex-teacher is no longer working with children.

The former student, who calls herself "Jamie," said the abuse started when she was 12 years old.

"I am 28 years old and have been waiting years to get up enough courage to report a teacher for sexually abusing me for years," Jamie's caption on her YouTube video states.

"When I finally got up enough courage to report her, I found out that the statute of limitations was up and she will never have to pay for the things that she did to me."

So she decided to expose the teacher on the Internet.

"I decided I'm going to call her to get some answers from her," Jamie said to a camera in her home.

After the woman identified as the teacher picked up the phone, Jamie asked, "So what happens when a student comes in and says that they're having (a) sexual relationship with a teacher?"

"I would involve law enforcement," the woman said.

"So how is that any different from what you did" years ago, Jamie said.

"It's not," the woman replied.

"Do you realize that you brainwashed me, and you manipulated me, and that what you did was wrong?" Jamie asked.

"Yes. And I regret it," the woman responded.

"You should be so ashamed and so disgusted with yourself," Jamie said, raising her voice.

"I am. I am," the woman said.

Shortly after Jamie posted the video on YouTube, she sent the link to her former teacher. The educator resigned within hours, said Jamie's attorney, David Ring.

The teacher has not responded to CNN's phone and e-mail requests for comment.

Police have launched an investigation into the case, but the statute of limitations may be an issue, Riverside police Lt. Guy Toussaint said. It all depends on what the investigation reveals and what crimes may have occurred.

The Alhambra Unified School District, where Jamie said the teacher most recently worked, has not responded to CNN's request for comment. But according to CNN affiliate KABC, the school district said it contacted Alhambra police immediately after discovering the YouTube link.

The Alhambra Police Department said it notified Riverside police because the reported abuse allegedly took place in Riverside.

"At this time in the investigation, there have been no identified crimes involving the suspect that have occurred in Alhambra," APD said in a statement.

Why now?
Now that she's a mother, Jamie said she wanted to make sure the teacher couldn't work with children again.

"The reason why I wanted to do this was to expose her for what she really was and to protect other kids, because she shouldn't be around anyone's kids," Jamie told reporters Monday. "It took a lot for me to come forward, but I kept thinking about my own kids, and how I wouldn't want anything to happen to them."

Jamie said the abuse took place 'off and on" between the ages of 12 and 18. She said she didn't come forward as a teenager because the teacher had brainwashed her.
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"She told me that my family didn't love me. She told me that nobody cared about me and that she was the only one that loved me and the only one that was there for me," Jamie said. "She made me believe that she was my only friend, and that I could trust her."

Jamie said she didn't want a physical relationship -- but that the teacher threatened her multiple times.

"She said that she would kill herself if I ever left. And I believed that," Jamie said.

Now, more than a decade after middle school, Jamie said she feels greater control in her life.

"In the beginning, I thought there was nothing that I could do. But after the outcome, obviously, there is something I can do."

 
   
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Good for her and good thing the teacher resigned and hopefully won't work with kids anymore. It's kinda sick that there's a statute of limitations on child molesting.

but isn't there some kind of law like if you don't tell someone you're recording them, then it can't be used as evidence or something dumb like that?

 
   
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Good for her for finally getting the courage to speak up,

its really just too bad that kids dont feel like they can talk to anyone about this kind of stuff, especially when its someone in authority that should have been one of the people she could talk to.

Hopefully some positive change comes out of this

 
   
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but isn't there some kind of law like if you don't tell someone you're recording them, then it can't be used as evidence or something dumb like that?


I think that only applies to police?

Either way, the video is on Youtube of all places. It's going to get a lot of hits as the case moves forward, especially in the area what the event happened. Suppressing such a thing is likely out of touch with reality.

If the teacher is truely remorseful for what she did, she'll plead guilty.

   
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It seems crazy that there is a statute of limitations on abuse cases, especially given the ages of some of the victims involved

 Necros wrote:
but isn't there some kind of law like if you don't tell someone you're recording them, then it can't be used as evidence or something dumb like that?

Even if there was the lady accomplished what she set out to do. She outed the person who abused her.

 
   
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but isn't there some kind of law like if you don't tell someone you're recording them, then it can't be used as evidence or something dumb like that?


Depends on the law of that particiular state.

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 Necros wrote:


but isn't there some kind of law like if you don't tell someone you're recording them, then it can't be used as evidence or something dumb like that?


Maybe, but I don't feel like that was the main point. The main goal was public humiliation, and that has no statute of limitations.

If the teacher didn't resign, there would have been public outcry against the school she worked in and she would eventually get let go to save face. And she'd never get hired anywhere ever again.

Parents would not stand for a teacher who has been caught on tape, legally admissible as evidence or not, admitting they sexually abused a child to be working at their kids school.

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 Frazzled wrote:
but isn't there some kind of law like if you don't tell someone you're recording them, then it can't be used as evidence or something dumb like that?


Depends on the law of that particiular state.


Also, as has already been stated this crime was beyond the statute of limitations, so there will be no prosecution anyways.

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Abuse from a female, that is rare. Still, im surprised she admitted it TBH. But it sounded like she was regretful. To bad nothing will come out of this case.

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I wouldn't say nothing.

She's going to have a stigma attached to her name from now on. Work's going to be tough to find.

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Trial by internet?

Even if the statute is up, go to the police, get them involved and do things properly.

As great as it may seem to get someone like this... there are ways and means in place.

   
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 djones520 wrote:
 Frazzled wrote:
but isn't there some kind of law like if you don't tell someone you're recording them, then it can't be used as evidence or something dumb like that?


Depends on the law of that particiular state.


Also, as has already been stated this crime was beyond the statute of limitations, so there will be no prosecution anyways.

Does that include civil courts?

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 SilverMK2 wrote:
Trial by internet?

Even if the statute is up, go to the police, get them involved and do things properly.

As great as it may seem to get someone like this... there are ways and means in place.


I agree, actually. I think this action should have occurred after, and if, the police decided the statute kept them from charging.

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If she is investigated by the police will that now show up on her background checks?

 
   
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I think you have to be prosecuted for a Background check.
But a google search of her name will suffice then.

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 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
If she is investigated by the police will that now show up on her background checks?


Any capable copmpay would likely turn up the youtube video in a background check. A lot of companies though just say they run background checks when they actually don't.

   
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 LordofHats wrote:
 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
If she is investigated by the police will that now show up on her background checks?


Any capable copmpay would likely turn up the youtube video in a background check. A lot of companies though just say they run background checks when they actually don't.

ISnt there some software companies use where they put your name in and anything with your name in it comes up?

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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
I think you have to be prosecuted convicted for a Background check.
But a google search of her name will suffice then.


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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
 LordofHats wrote:
 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
If she is investigated by the police will that now show up on her background checks?


Any capable copmpay would likely turn up the youtube video in a background check. A lot of companies though just say they run background checks when they actually don't.

ISnt there some software companies use where they put your name in and anything with your name in it comes up?


Google. It's called Google.

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And that video is going to be at the top of the list of results.

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 SilverMK2 wrote:
Trial by internet?

Even if the statute is up, go to the police, get them involved and do things properly.

As great as it may seem to get someone like this... there are ways and means in place.


I completely agree, there are ways and means of going about reporting something of this nature. Putting videos of this up on Youtube only serves to create a media furore because most people think that the legal system is incapable of dealing with such matters "sufficiently".

As far as I'm concerned, the way she handled it is no different from vigilantism.

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I'm not convinced this is the right way to go about this. Even if this woman was guilty as sin it sets a precedent and audio files can be edited. Why couldn’t the recording have simply been sent to the schools principle or governors? They could then have taken the appropriate action.

Even if this wasn’t beyond the statue of limitations there would be no realistic chance of a prosecution after a stunt this. A fair trial would simply be impossible.

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 LuciusAR wrote:
I'm not convinced this is the right way to go about this. Even if this woman was guilty as sin it sets a precedent and audio files can be edited. Why couldn’t the recording have simply been sent to the schools principle or governors? They could then have taken the appropriate action.

They could, but that does not necessarily mean that they would. There have been instances before where you get a teacher, notably female, admitting to such things but no prosecution.


Even if this wasn’t beyond the statue of limitations there would be no realistic chance of a prosecution after a stunt this. A fair trial would simply be impossible.

If that was true then you would never see prosecution on any major cases with media coverage.
   
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Well it is good that she has found the strength to face down her abuser. Good for her.

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 Kanluwen wrote:
 LuciusAR wrote:
I'm not convinced this is the right way to go about this. Even if this woman was guilty as sin it sets a precedent and audio files can be edited. Why couldn’t the recording have simply been sent to the schools principle or governors? They could then have taken the appropriate action.

They could, but that does not necessarily mean that they would. There have been instances before where you get a teacher, notably female, admitting to such things but no prosecution.


Even if this wasn’t beyond the statue of limitations there would be no realistic chance of a prosecution after a stunt this. A fair trial would simply be impossible.

If that was true then you would never see prosecution on any major cases with media coverage.

Yeah, The Zimmerman, Casey anthony and the Johanas Mehserle trials all went to court

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Good for her.

You can understand why students usually don't report this as it happens when they see gak like this:
Board to offer reinstatement to Middleton teacher who looked at porn at school

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Leave it to a future Nsa agent to post a conversation on youtube.

   
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 whembly wrote:
You can understand why students usually don't report this as it happens when they see gak like this:
Board to offer reinstatement to Middleton teacher who looked at porn at school


What does a case of an adult looking at porn in violation of their employer's policy have to do with a case of an adult abusing a child under her authority?

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 Peregrine wrote:
 whembly wrote:
You can understand why students usually don't report this as it happens when they see gak like this:
Board to offer reinstatement to Middleton teacher who looked at porn at school


What does a case of an adult looking at porn in violation of their employer's policy have to do with a case of an adult abusing a child under her authority?

The fact that teachers in some district can get away with many things...

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Dang it teachers in the union that have tenure have the right to do what ever they want, the union says so. Its in the constitution.

   
 
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