Now here's a funeral we can all go protest.

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**MeanGreenStompa**

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/03/16/1285133/-Fred-Phelps-of-Westboro-Baptist-Protests-Near-Death

Nathan Phelps, Fred's son, announced his reckoning today on Facebook.

http://www.patheos.com/...

Confirmation with Nathan via phone has occurred. Family members who were excommunicated from the church have been told they cannot see Fred. Fred himself was, by this notice and now being revealed, excommunicated from his own church last year. And this is where it gets interesting.

While the 'God Hates' crusade that Phelps has been on has continued, last year Fred himself dropped away from the monster he created, was excommunicated and the public was prevented from interviewing or talking to Fred.

Did Fred have a change of heart?
Was it all a massive ruse?

In the end, Phelps hate mongering has probably done more good for the gay rights movement then could have been imagined as it put a real, tangible face on hatred and forced society to accept that the slippery slope also involved creepy weirdos like Fred. Fred's continuous picketting, protests and the like led more people to say 'I can't be on the same side as this guy' and helps influence a generation that this kind of bigotry is wrong.

Last year, right before his ex-communication, Phelps faced confrontation of former members who wondered if Phelps himself wasn't a gay man who's self hatred manifested itself as it did.

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/...

Speaking in an interview with the Advocate, Drain speculated that Fred Phelps had at one point wanted to join the military, but suddenly changed his mind.

She said: “All I know is that he said he went to West Point, then all of a sudden he had a religious experience, and now he wanted to preach against sexual immorality, preach against the military, and ever since then things have kind of progressed.”

Drain went on to say that she thought his reaction to being asked by the media if he was gay himself was suspicious, in that it was particularly extreme.

“I never understood why, when [he was asked by the press], ‘Why are you so against the homosexuals? Did you have a homosexual experience? Do you have homosexual tendencies?’ And he would get so mad, he would shut down. And he’d be like, ‘I can’t talk to this person anymore, they’re stupid.’

“His reaction to that was stronger than any other question you can ask him. So I always wondered that — why does he get so mad? If I’m not gay, I’ll just say I’m not gay.”

Regardless, should this ex-communicated member of one of the most hate oriented churches in America be laid to rest, it is likely to be a major scene.. there would probably be some level of protests.

But Fred, you old hate monger, you despicable human being.. Thank you for putting a real face on hatred and bigotry. Your hate, your venom, your sheer level of evil reminded people all over the country that they couldn't be on your side of this civil rights battle. And for that, I'll tip my glass, and be glad the world is rid of you when you're gone, and glad the world had to confront your madness as it did.

I really hope to see a great party of amusing placard holders show up, gays, military, bikers, nerds and everyone else his woeful clan has insulted and injured, and they turn the entire day into a very noisy celebration event.

God Hates Fred Phelps.

**AduroT**

The best thing to do would be to do nothing. Protesting his funeral only sinks you to his level. People need to stop paying any attention to them because it's what they want.

**Medium of Death**

I think the best thing would be just to ignore them as per. They feed on attention.

I'm interested, slightly, about him being excommunicated.

I'm not really sure why people would protest his funeral, spite isn't really a protest. Not that I'd have any sympathy for them/him.

**squidhills**

I'd say it's a sad thing to wish death upon someone else, but it this man's case, I'd be lying.

**MeanGreenStompa**

AduroT wrote:
The best thing to do would be to do nothing. Protesting his funeral only sinks you to his level. People need to stop paying any attention to them because it's what they want.

They want everyone to show up and have a big party? Cool, cos that's what I'm hoping to see, thousands showing up for a big old unifying event, boozing, debauchery and rock n roll.

And it really doesn't sink anyone to their level. They've shown up to hundreds of funerals, screaming and shouting the vilest things at people grieving for dead relatives. It's ok to be glad one of them died, it's really ok to want the rest of them to follow him into the hereafter asap. It's really not a crime to be happy about the passing of a twisted and malevolent being and piss off his living relatives, who've inflicted suffering on vulnerable people and will now, fingers crossed, get to know a bit of how that feels.

**d-usa**

Ignore the funeral, death is never a happy occasion. I hope he saw the error of his ways during his final time.

**SkavenLord**

AduroT wrote:
The best thing to do would be to do nothing. Protesting his funeral only sinks you to his level. People need to stop paying any attention to them because it's what they want.

True, but maybe a simple beating attack from a mob, or some other large scale attack on them will suffice. They would only be feeling merely a fraction of the pain they've caused to others.

It's truly a shame though... for the younger ones. The older ones are probably not even Christian. The younger ones, I've heard, are sort of indoctrinated into this. Some of them even leave the church and feel honestly bad for what they've done.

Kind of like this: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/02/06/4052727/two-members-leave-westboro-church.html

**hotsauceman1**

"In the end, Phelps hate mongering has probably done more good for the gay rights movement then could have been imagined as it put a real, tangible face on hatred and forced society to accept that the slippery slope also involved creepy weirdos like Fred. Fred's continuous picketting, protests and the like led more people to say 'I can't be on the same side as this guy' and helps influence a generation that this kind of bigotry is wrong. "
Wait a second.......Fred was a civil rights attorney......what if this was just a ploy? To make people go to the sides of gay rights all along?

**AduroT**

SkavenLord wrote:
AduroT wrote:
The best thing to do would be to do nothing. Protesting his funeral only sinks you to his level. People need to stop paying any attention to them because it's what they want.

True, but maybe a simple beating attack from a mob, or some other large scale attack on them will suffice. They would only be feeling merely a fraction of the pain they've caused to others.

It's truly a shame though... for the younger ones. The older ones are probably not even Christian. The younger ones, I've heard, are sort of indoctrinated into this. Some of them even leave the church and feel honestly bad for what they've done.

Kind of like this: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/02/06/4052727/two-members-leave-westboro-church.html

Attacking them is the Worst thing you can do, because then they sue you and that's how they fund their church.

**Avatar 720**

AduroT wrote:
SkavenLord wrote:
AduroT wrote:
The best thing to do would be to do nothing. Protesting his funeral only sinks you to his level. People need to stop paying any attention to them because it's what they want.

True, but maybe a simple beating attack from a mob, or some other large scale attack on them will suffice. They would only be feeling merely a fraction of the pain they've caused to others.

It's truly a shame though... for the younger ones. The older ones are probably not even Christian. The younger ones, I've heard, are sort of indoctrinated into this. Some of them even leave the church and feel honestly bad for what they've done.

Kind of like this: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/02/06/4052727/two-members-leave-westboro-church.html

Attacking them is the Worst thing you can do, because then they sue you and that's how they fund their church.

The simple answer to that is leave nobody alive to sue you.

In fact, just don't leave anybody alive at all.

Including yourself.

...

I'm not crazy.

**SkavenLord**

AduroT wrote:
SkavenLord wrote:
AduroT wrote:
The best thing to do would be to do nothing. Protesting his funeral only sinks you to his level. People need to stop paying any attention to them because it's what they want.

True, but maybe a simple beating attack from a mob, or some other large scale attack on them will suffice. They would only be feeling merely a fraction of the pain they've caused to others.

It's truly a shame though... for the younger ones. The older ones are probably not even Christian. The younger ones, I've heard, are sort of indoctrinated into this. Some of them even leave the church and feel honestly bad for what they've done.

Kind of like this: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/02/06/4052727/two-members-leave-westboro-church.html

Attacking them is the Worst thing you can do, because then they sue you and that's how they fund their church.

Yeah, you have a good point.
What if it was the other way around? Say, if I did the same thing to them, made them attack me and I sued for it?

**Hlaine Larkin mk2**

Just don't give these guys the attention they thrive on.
Besides they're basically a cult and now the leader is on death's door: when he dies there's a good chance they'll tear themselves apart from infighting like most cults do.

**timetowaste85**

Hlaine Larkin mk2 wrote:
they'll tear themselves apart

Hopefully literally. Some entrepreneurial individual should sneak into this bloodbath and put it on YouTube.

**master of ordinance**

timetowaste85 wrote:
Hlaine Larkin mk2 wrote:
they'll tear themselves apart

Hopefully literally. Some entrepreneurial individual should sneak into this bloodbath and put it on YouTube.

Now that would be a video to watch

Wait, they hated on nerds? When?

**timetowaste85**

master of ordinance wrote:
timetowaste85 wrote:
Hlaine Larkin mk2 wrote:
they'll tear themselves apart

Hopefully literally. Some entrepreneurial individual should sneak into this bloodbath and put it on YouTube.

Now that would be a video to watch

Wait, they hated on nerds? When?

They picketed ComiCon a few years back, claimed all us "nerds" worshipped Superman. Stupid WBC...we all worship Batman.

**LordofHats**

In the end, Phelps hate mongering has probably done more good for the gay rights movement then could have been imagined as it put a real, tangible face on hatred and forced society to accept that the slippery slope also involved creepy weirdos like Fred. Fred's continuous picketting, protests and the like led more people to say 'I can't be on the same side as this guy' and helps influence a generation that this kind of bigotry is wrong.

Oh the sweet delicious irony of it all

**d-usa**

timetowaste85 wrote:
master of ordinance wrote:
timetowaste85 wrote:
Hlaine Larkin mk2 wrote:
they'll tear themselves apart

Hopefully literally. Some entrepreneurial individual should sneak into this bloodbath and put it on YouTube.

Now that would be a video to watch

Wait, they hated on nerds? When?

They picketed ComiCon a few years back, claimed all us "nerds" worshipped Superman. Stupid WBC...we all worship Batman.

To be fair, Deadpool also picketed ComiCon...

**Relapse**

d-usa wrote:
Ignore the funeral, death is never a happy occasion. I hope he saw the error of his ways during his final time.

I was searching my own feelings on this and it appears you have the best thought.

**timetowaste85**

d-usa wrote:
timetowaste85 wrote:
master of ordinance wrote:
timetowaste85 wrote:
Hlaine Larkin mk2 wrote:
they'll tear themselves apart

Hopefully literally. Some entrepreneurial individual should sneak into this bloodbath and put it on YouTube.

Now that would be a video to watch

Wait, they hated on nerds? When?

They picketed ComiCon a few years back, claimed all us "nerds" worshipped Superman. Stupid WBC...we all worship Batman.

To be fair, Deadpool also picketed ComiCon...

The problem is, I might actually know that guy...

There was a guy who regularly attended the Cons as our favorite Merc With A Mouth, never talked, but always did Wade-type stuff, including, if memory serves correctly, a Deadpool-gangnam style dance. He was an assistant manager at my previously local music store. I could honestly ask if that was him-identical body type, and he's got plenty of videos on YouTube. Trap, now I have to ask next time I see him!

**ScootyPuffJunior**

"I take no solace or joy in this man's passing. We will not dance upon his grave, nor stand vigil at his funeral holding 'God Hates Freds' signs, tempting as it may be.

He was a tormented soul, who tormented so many. Hate never wins out in the end. It instead goes always to its lonely, dusty end." -George Takei

**SkavenLord**

ScootyPuffJunior wrote:
"I take no solace or joy in this man's passing. We will not dance upon his grave, nor stand vigil at his funeral holding 'God Hates Freds' signs, tempting as it may be.

He was a tormented soul, who tormented so many. Hate never wins out in the end. It instead goes always to its lonely, dusty end." -George Takei

*Sigh* I did a background check on the guy. I think I've switched to this point of view towards him. If I vandalised his funeral, I'd just be stooping to his low.

**Piston Honda**

Protest by getting in one giant naked pile on his grave.

NSFW

Spoiler:

**motyak**

I freaking love that episode.

"This is gay"

"This is super gay"

"This is gayer than all the men having sex in a big pile"

"BACK TO THE PILE"

**Hordini**

I hope that he had a change of heart and was able to repent for the hateful things that he has done.

**SkavenLord**

Hordini wrote:
I hope that he had a change of heart and was able to repent for the hateful things that he has done.

He was excommunicated from his own faith and experienced what the people he went against experienced. I'd be surprised if he didn't feel at least some form of regret.

**Talizvar**

He wanted attention in life, puff himself up and forcing his opinion on others especially during the times people were at their most vulnerable.

Ignore his funeral.
Have as few people show up as possible.
Later, go pee on his grave if you feel you must.
Just do not make a special trip.

**Slarg232**

I will not protest his funeral or anything, but the moment I clicked this thread and saw who it was, only thought that came to my mind was

Good Riddance.

**sirlynchmob**

Be the better man, don't stoop to his level. Show his family that they've been wrong all this time.

**Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl**

timetowaste85 wrote:
They picketed ComiCon a few years back, claimed all us "nerds" worshipped Superman. Stupid WBC...we all worship Batman.

Did anybody cared ? I sure would not. Maybe would have try to talk to them and sow seeds of doubts in their mind, though. I heard they are quite nice when you actually speak to them, and anyway, it can only be great fun.

**Mr. Burning**

Fred Phelps at deaths door?

This is the time when he starts to hope that the bible is just a good story book and not real in any way.