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2014/04/10 08:35:27
Subject: new website NO FAQ
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
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ok so as above, With the new website the FAQ and errata are gone, may be temporary, may be permanent...
What to do What to do....
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CSM   20,000 Pts  
Daemons 4,000 (ish)
WoC over 10,000
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2014/04/10 09:08:38
Subject: new website NO FAQ
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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It's only logical. After all, FAQ would imply the books are less than perfect. 
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2014/04/10 09:10:18
Subject: Re:new website NO FAQ
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Fixture of Dakka
Temple Prime
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I foresee madness in the future.
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 Midnightdeathblade wrote:Think of a daemon incursion like a fart you don't quite trust... you could either toot a little puff of air, bellow a great effluvium, or utterly sh*t your pants and cry as it floods down your leg.
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2014/04/10 09:23:53
Subject: new website NO FAQ
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
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Well yes kain we do have madness, there is now a rules paradox.
The print BRB and the Digital BRB were auto udpated when FAQ and erata came along, same with the digital versions of the codex.
basic example is the Hellbrute, its 105 in my print book and 100 in the Digital... which is now correct etc.
so in the grimdark future of 40k there is paradox's and madness 
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CSM 20,000 Pts
Daemons 4,000 (ish)
WoC over 10,000
6000+ Pts
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2014/04/10 11:15:57
Subject: new website NO FAQ
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Stalwart Ultramarine Tactical Marine
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Well for the moment, I would go with the latest printed/digital printed rules as the correct information.
Unfortunately we're going to have to treat anything that was in the FAQs as obsolete now, so either revert to the last printed instructions or point values or go with the classic dice role to validate arguments brought on by this GW mess.
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2014/04/10 11:21:44
Subject: new website NO FAQ
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
Wiltshire
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Missile drones...
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Note to the reader: my username is not arrogance. No, my name is taken from the most excellent of commanders: Lord Castellan Creed, of the Imperial Guar- I mean Astra Militarum - who has a special rule known only as "Tactical Genius"... Although nowhere near as awesome as before, it now allows some cool stuff for the Guar- Astra Militarum - player. FEAR ME AND MY TWO WARLORD TRAITS. |
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2014/04/10 11:27:27
Subject: Re:new website NO FAQ
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Last Remaining Whole C'Tan
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Sorry, disregard. I was mistaken.
It would seem only Thunderdome remains.
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 lord_blackfang wrote:Respect to the guy who subscribed just to post a massive ASCII dong in the chat and immediately get banned.
 Flinty wrote:The benefit of slate is that its.actually a.rock with rock like properties. The downside is that it's a rock
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2014/04/10 11:29:21
Subject: Re:new website NO FAQ
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Brigadier General
The new Sick Man of Europe
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They probably forgot to transfer them in the new site.
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DC:90+S+G++MB++I--Pww211+D++A++/fWD390R++T(F)DM+
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2014/04/10 11:31:31
Subject: new website NO FAQ
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Confident Marauder Chieftain
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 sarduka42 wrote:
Unfortunately we're going to have to treat anything that was in the FAQs as obsolete now, so either revert to the last printed instructions or point values or go with the classic dice role to validate arguments brought on by this GW mess.
Or we could go with the latest that were released before the new site? I only have the ones relevant to my armies but I'm sure between the hobby community there's a way to divulge the information from the faq's. Does that go against copyright? I'm not sure on the legal issues but that seems like the most logical approach to my mind.
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2014/04/10 12:03:12
Subject: Re:new website NO FAQ
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Hoary Long Fang with Lascannon
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On a serious note:
I hope they get the faqs back on the page. The faqs at least make them look like they tried.
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2014/04/10 12:05:14
Subject: new website NO FAQ
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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This is super interesting. Effectively, does this mean it's going to be cool to take Missile Drones in normal Tau squads again? Not sure it'll be that great since they can be buffed by a drone controller, but it is a big change to the way the army works.
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2014/04/10 12:06:11
Subject: Re:new website NO FAQ
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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Scarabs and Missile Drones. Scarabs and Missile drones everywhere.
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What I have
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Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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2014/04/10 12:20:14
Subject: new website NO FAQ
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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 ausYenLoWang wrote:ok so as above, With the new website the FAQ and errata are gone, may be temporary, may be permanent...
What to do What to do....
Is that a RAW or RAI statement?
Page and rule citation please. FAQ if possib...
oh wait.
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2014/04/10 12:20:26
Subject: Re:new website NO FAQ
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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More expensive Hellbrutes too IIRC.
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Games Workshop Delenda Est.
Users on ignore- 53.
If you break apart my or anyone else's posts line by line I will not read them. |
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2014/04/10 12:20:56
Subject: new website NO FAQ
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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But if they are more expensive, they wouldn't be everywhere  Many a CSM would be annoyed though... So, Annoyed CSM players, annoyed CSM played everywhere.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2014/04/10 12:21:35
What I have
~4100
~1660
Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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2014/04/10 12:21:54
Subject: new website NO FAQ
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Executing Exarch
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Tau digital codex says otherwise, bow down to your technological superiors peasants.
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Rick Priestley said it best:
Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! The modern studio isn’t a studio in the same way; it isn’t a collection of artists and creatives sharing ideas and driving each other on. It’s become the promotions department of a toy company – things move on!
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2014/04/10 12:23:59
Subject: new website NO FAQ
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Crazed Spirit of the Defiler
Ireland
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Paladins, Nob Bikers etc are characters again.
Look Out Sir to any model you like.
Powerfield Generators work from within vehicles again.
KFF provides vehicles with a 4+ cover save.
Abaddon can now suffer Spawndom or Princehood.
Nightscythes lose Invasion Beam
There are probably dozens of straight changes that have now technically reverted.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2014/04/10 12:24:34
By the 37 keys of Tzeentch,We open the way for our brothers,
By the 1000 whispers of Slaanesh we call to them,
By the 12 plagues of Nurgle we fell their enemies,
And by the mighty axe of Khorne we cut open the world for them!
- Ritual of Summoning, Recited by Amphion and Zethus Dark Sorcerers of the Deimos Peninsula,Kronos
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2014/04/10 12:24:37
Subject: new website NO FAQ
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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 Ravenous D wrote:
Tau digital codex says otherwise, bow down to your technological superiors peasants.
So we're going back to the brave new (old) world of the 3.5 CSM codex, where there were 4(?) versions in circulation at one time.
Welcome to the Thunderdome people! 
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Games Workshop Delenda Est.
Users on ignore- 53.
If you break apart my or anyone else's posts line by line I will not read them. |
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2014/04/10 12:25:23
Subject: new website NO FAQ
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
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Ravenous D wrote:
Tau digital codex says otherwise, bow down to your technological superiors peasants.
as i said it becomes a rules paradox, which is the legit rules, digi or print? both "cant" be right... blah GW... it was bad enough as it was...
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CSM 20,000 Pts
Daemons 4,000 (ish)
WoC over 10,000
6000+ Pts
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2014/04/10 12:28:07
Subject: new website NO FAQ
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Devastating Dark Reaper
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Ravenous D wrote:
Tau digital codex says otherwise, bow down to your technological superiors peasants.
So are we at the point where paper copies of your book are no longer going to be usable? Sounds like you have a mess for most players, never mind the stab in the back that is to LGSes since that's one more product they have that's now garbage.
And as an aside, is there a version number on the ePub versions of the book? I can't find one, so I can't really be sure that the ePub codexes I have are the newest version. Not even trying to play devil's advocate, just pointing out you have a situation that's at least as bad as the old CSM codex (when you had something like 3 different versions of Oblits in different printings and no markings to tell them apart)
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2014/04/10 12:29:12
Subject: new website NO FAQ
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Executing Exarch
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ausYenLoWang wrote: Ravenous D wrote:
Tau digital codex says otherwise, bow down to your technological superiors peasants.
as i said it becomes a rules paradox, which is the legit rules, digi or print? both "cant" be right... blah GW... it was bad enough as it was...
Yeah its literally Armageddon for the game if the FAQs aren't put in place. It means GW has officially given up on trying to help us out in the slightest. It also means that the books are made flawed and you aren't getting any support for the price tag.
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Rick Priestley said it best:
Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! The modern studio isn’t a studio in the same way; it isn’t a collection of artists and creatives sharing ideas and driving each other on. It’s become the promotions department of a toy company – things move on!
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2014/04/10 12:30:15
Subject: new website NO FAQ
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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"This is great news!"
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Games Workshop Delenda Est.
Users on ignore- 53.
If you break apart my or anyone else's posts line by line I will not read them. |
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2014/04/10 12:30:55
Subject: Re:new website NO FAQ
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Tunneling Trygon
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No FAQs?
To be fair, they haven't posted a new one in such a long time, they probably just said, "feth it..." and gave up altogether.
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http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/527774.page |
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2014/04/10 12:33:37
Subject: new website NO FAQ
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Executing Exarch
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 Grimtuff wrote: Ravenous D wrote:
Tau digital codex says otherwise, bow down to your technological superiors peasants.
So we're going back to the brave new (old) world of the 3.5 CSM codex, where there were 4(?) versions in circulation at one time.
Welcome to the Thunderdome people!
Except iPad users are the righty-est because they have the closest thing to a link to GW.
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Rick Priestley said it best:
Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! The modern studio isn’t a studio in the same way; it isn’t a collection of artists and creatives sharing ideas and driving each other on. It’s become the promotions department of a toy company – things move on!
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2014/04/10 12:34:55
Subject: new website NO FAQ
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I think GW just said "Community, get feth yourself. We're not here to give you free rule interpretations. We're here to make models, take your money, and then make up gak about the models in that order. I don't see where we are supposed to give you free rule interpretations. In fact, we've done such a good job outsourcing communication of the hobby to our lawyers, you don't even know ahead of time we made a new website (internet rumor sites don't exist of course, nor internal leaks) or whether free rule interpretations are ever coming back, so in short, go on our website and order our stuff for full price. We'll also toss in an updated model of an old miniature just to show you how much we have changed (read: not at all)."
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2014/04/10 12:38:59
Subject: new website NO FAQ
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Executing Exarch
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 WarOne wrote:I think GW just said "Community, get feth yourself. We're not here to give you free rule interpretations. We're here to make models, take your money, and then make up gak about the models in that order. I don't see where we are supposed to give you free rule interpretations. In fact, we've done such a good job outsourcing communication of the hobby to our lawyers, you don't even know ahead of time we made a new website (internet rumor sites don't exist of course, nor internal leaks) or whether free rule interpretations are ever coming back, so in short, go on our website and order our stuff for full price. We'll also toss in an updated model of an old miniature just you how much we have changed (read: not at all)."
Watch them sue the first site that tries hosting FAQs
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Rick Priestley said it best:
Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! The modern studio isn’t a studio in the same way; it isn’t a collection of artists and creatives sharing ideas and driving each other on. It’s become the promotions department of a toy company – things move on!
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2014/04/10 12:48:57
Subject: new website NO FAQ
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
Manchester, UK
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Ravenous D wrote:
Tau digital codex says otherwise, bow down to your technological superiors peasants.
Only one way to solve the digital vs print argument, fight it out! One side gets to use Ipads as weapons, the other gets to use hard backed books. Let's see who wins...
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2014/04/10 13:05:34
Subject: Re:new website NO FAQ
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Boom! Leman Russ Commander
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I found one, do I get a cookie? Remember kids, this is the internet. Just like that embarrassing photo you uploaded to the ol' instagram, FAQs are on the internet forever. Google your book and the word FAQ, and you should find what you seek. Tried it with tau book, didn't seem to work. Salvage what we can, children of the circle of the players of the game that makes sense, find those old downloaded versions and harbour them in safety!
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2014/04/10 13:09:20
Subject: Re:new website NO FAQ
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Trazyn's Museum Curator
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 Scipio Africanus wrote:I found one, do I get a cookie? Remember kids, this is the internet. Just like that embarrassing photo you uploaded to the ol' instagram, FAQs are on the internet forever. Google your book and the word FAQ, and you should find what you seek. Tried it with tau book, didn't seem to work. Salvage what we can, children of the circle of the players of the game that makes sense, find those old downloaded versions and harbour them in safety!
I found Expunged data, that's what the link gives me. So you get nothing! Good day sir! 
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What I have
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~1660
Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!
A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble
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2014/04/10 13:09:57
Subject: new website NO FAQ
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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ausYenLoWang wrote:ok so as above, With the new website the FAQ and errata are gone, may be temporary, may be permanent...
What to do What to do....
Carry on using the current FAQs until there is a decent reason to stop?
The fact that an FAQ is no longer being offered for download on their website doesn't mean that all those people who already have a copy of it should just burn it and forget it exists.
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