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Same here.

I'm done humoring this guy.

Keep it coming with those names, Rick James's toy.

Thats the refuge of the scorned to fall back on something out in left field rather then talk about the issue. Good job, by the way at saying absolutly nothing.

Oh, Malfred, go over to the site and keep an eye on it. don't cry too loud, just because it has warhammer stamped all over it.I don't get tied down to games on the computer. play a few and you'll see why. Computer games are not as personal as table top, and I put them up and deleat them almost weekly. Go sign up for the betas as well, maybe you might learn something. I already posted that I play them alot, so i don't get trapped into them.

As for likes and dislikes, the real question is " What is the hook that will keep players playing?" If you played DAOC, you'll figure out why I'm skeptical.

here is a interview about the WAR game, and some of the so called features.

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/gameId/239/setView/features/loadFeature/1496

Predicting that the failure of a game will "make me cry" is a little absurd
unless you've played it yourself and you know my tastes. I have plenty of other
things in life to make me cry, spank you very much.

And if nothing else, I'm willing to try the game for some of this:

What elements of WAR online will keep the casual player engrossed, especially at the end game, besides the public raids?

Josh: Because scenarios are something that you can plan to participate in for a set and definite amount of time, they're perfect for casual gamers. Have half an hour while dinner is cooking? Hop in and hit a couple of quick scenarios. And since they're all over the world, from beginning to end, there's never a time when you WON'T have something to contribute there. Of course, all of the standard content is still "casual-friendly" - especially things like Public Quests. No need to run around LFG'ing all night long. Run on into the PQ, participate as little or as much as you like, and leave.


One of the big motivationfactors in DAoC was that one group of well played characters was able to kill 30+ players at once if they knew exactly what they were doing. Do you have such things in mind when developing WAR? Is skill as important in WAR as it was in DAoC?

Gersh: WAR is a bit diffrent from DAOC in terms of quantity of players a really good group can take down. In general we're limiting AoE type abilities and playing with the style of them. In general outside of morale you won't be able to hit more then 9 or so targts. In alot of cases we've done diffrent types of ranges and AoE shapes, Cone AoEs, Long Line AoEs, Hits 2 + nearby targets etc. So in WAR a well planned group could roll through a number of opponents. But they won't Be able to roll up and Mez 30 people then nuke them all down Aka DAOC.

In responce to the graphics being sub-par:

http://www.wanderinggoblin.com/literaturedetail.php?id=65

Look about 1/2 way down the report, it's a nice bold heading, difficult to miss - right above an inset pic of a dwarf supermodel.

The bottom briefly touches on part of the reason the game is being delayed.

An in response to Kwade, lemme quote the article with something i found at the bottom.

"The influx of cash allowed Mythic to extend the development time of Warhammer and include a whole range of features that otherwise would have been left out. What are these features, you ask? Well, they remain a secret at this time, but we were assured they upgrade the game from "just another MMO" to "a grade-A MMO."'

Again another example of things being pushed back so they can make the game rock harder

I for one am really excited about it as I've enjoyed playing WHFRP for a number of years now, and would enjoy running around in the world with groups of friends. While yes it's another Fantasy MMO, its an old old old license
that definitely deserves its own crack at an MMO world.

Lastly I don't think anyone should talk about Graphics too much till the game is almost out. At that point sure, talk away, but anyone who's played it at Comic-Con or Gencon or anywhere else should put their opinions on hold.

There's nothing more aggravating than some Self Righteous gamer posting his opinions on things long since outdated as if they were fact and up to date.

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I dont pretend to be an expert, Ive played wow and a few others for a while and burned out on them, but I am very exited about WAR specifically due to the features that have been presented. If they deliver on the RVR and public quests that alone should be enough to turn some heads and provide a hook to keep people coming back.

But again, im no expert.

The press and MMO community, however seems to agree since they game has had nearly half a million beta applications, has an arm long list of "best of show" and "most anticipated game" awards and has almost universally positive press and industry buzz so far.

Does that gurantee sucess, of course not. But it certainly does give cause for those of us who are looking forward to the game to be optimistic.

That, and the fact that the witchunter looks fraggin awesome

I've never played any MMO, but reading the link to wandering goblin (or whatever it was) actually has me intrigued. I just bought a 360 though...

Ozymandias, King of Kings

I work in the video game field (See: Airtight Games), and can say having a Beta pushed back, or a delay is nothing new.  Really, it's not. It's a little expensive to do so, but if you want to make a better impression, then it's worth it. Considering that "WAR" has been in a couple of companies hands, and IIRC the very first one was doing a miserable job and got canned, I'm not surprised at the 5 year turn around. Also remember that it's spreads the development costs over a several companies; however it seems that Mythic has made the most progress.

With the amount of progress in concept art and lighting, I'm interested.  What I care about is: will this look like the Warhammer art books that I get from Black Library?  So far, that seems to be yes. Considering I've got a Beta key, I'll know fairly soon if it's something I want to throw money at.  If anything I appreciate the fact they're going to let some folks a chance to make up their mind in the Beta

Yes, it will be "kill for cash", as most things are, but if they make that fun then who cares?  If MMO's are your cup of tea, then you already knew this. If you didn't, well, you know now.

Posted By Moopy on 10/24/2007 4:37 PM
Considering I've got a Beta key, I'll know fairly soon if it's something I want to throw money at. 

 

Any way we can bribe you into some NON-NDA-BREAKING impressions once the beta's back up and running?  Wouldn't want you to get in trouble, but I would like some vague "it's cool/not cool/fluid/etc... " kind of feedback that doesn't risk you losing your key.

I'll review the NDA and see what I'm allowed to talk about. I figure it would take about a month to get good feel for it.

And there would be no bribe. If I'm allowed to do it, I'll do it for free.

From what I've seen people say, they're only allowed to say they're in the beta or something like that.

Posted By malfred on 10/25/2007 8:54 PM
From what I've seen people say, they're only allowed to say they're in the beta or something like that.

There ya go Moop - duty done!

Phew!