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My biggest problem with a DoW sequel is the ol 'Reset Button' syndrome.

We've spent 4 years getting to Marines/Chaos/Guard/SoBs/Orks/Eldar/Dark Eldar/Tau/Necrons as full races... and now we go back to what, 3 or 4 (Marines, Orks and maybe Chaos or Eldar or both).

So it's just like resetting DoW and giving it a face list... oh and making the squad-cap even smaller.

I just don't see the point.

BYE

If there are 4 it will be all gold.

I think the great thing about DOW has been that with each upgrade they rebalanced all the armies making each of them (relatively) fresh to play again.

To use a new engine and really pump up the graphics will be great.
And I guess the minimum requirements mean I'll have to use the wife's new laptop rather than my 3 and a half year old desktop...

COH only had two sides and I loved the hell out of that game.

stonefox wrote:German dudes, translate this please :

I don't think German understand much of it, as it is written in Dutch...

But anyway here are the headlights:
You can't command more than 6 squad
Squads are more personalized, ie. named and equipped with individual weapons. This is to make you feel more attached to your squads.
You are awarded special equipment when you complete missions. They mention Thunderhammer, a flamer and a "supression rifle", which is an assault cannon I think.
Buildings and other scenery can now be destroyed.
The games AI is based on that of Company of Heroes and adapted to DoW.
They have been working on DoW 2 from September 2006 with 55 developers, which includes the original DoW team and some Company of Heroes teammembers.

Sorry, no mention of other races than Orks and Space Marines...

A tight squad limit makes me wonder how Tyranids will play, if they show up as has been rumored.

Haha, my bad black. I even lived in Germany and had to learn conversational German (but that was back in '96). Thanks for the other highlights though.

A tight squad limit makes me wonder how Tyranids will play, if they show up as has been rumored.

If "scaled units" means what I think it means, 1 squad of 5 marines is equivalent to 20 or more tyranids.

Balance wrote:A tight squad limit makes me wonder how Tyranids will play, if they show up as has been rumored.

You play Nidzilla, duh.

H.B.M.C. wrote:My biggest problem with a DoW sequel is the ol 'Reset Button' syndrome.

We've spent 4 years getting to Marines/Chaos/Guard/SoBs/Orks/Eldar/Dark Eldar/Tau/Necrons as full races... and now we go back to what, 3 or 4 (Marines, Orks and maybe Chaos or Eldar or both).

So it's just like resetting DoW and giving it a face list... oh and making the squad-cap even smaller.

I just don't see the point.

BYE

Welcome to GW gaming... DoW has gone from Second Edition to Third Edition

JohnHwangDD wrote:Welcome to GW gaming... DoW has gone from Second Edition to Third Edition

No comparison.

At the end of 2nd Ed I didn't have to give back all my models and wait for the army to be re-released.

BYE

H.B.M.C. wrote:

JohnHwangDD wrote:Welcome to GW gaming... DoW has gone from Second Edition to Third Edition

No comparison.

At the end of 2nd Ed I didn't have to give back all my models and wait for the army to be re-released.

BYE

You'd think it was by some of the way people talk about their favorite DOW armies.

stonefox wrote:Haha, my bad black. I even lived in Germany and had to learn conversational German (but that was back in '96). Thanks for the other highlights though.

No problem, I would have problems distinguishing related languages like Swedish and Norwegian...

BTW. I flipped through the article in the magazine in a shop and saw some more pages. Their are at least 2 more, but I hadn't enough time to read it.

slightly more info here

There's some robust good old fashioned English in places on that link so if rude words ain't your proverbial cuppa......

I can see why already:

all optimised for DX10 and multicore support.

Sorry but if you want to play this game you'll have to put off your next 2 armies while you upgrade or replace your machine.

edit: Oh wait, it's the same typical fanboy circlejerking and OMG 40K CAME BEFORE STARCRAFT . I should've known. These guys probably have quadcore 4gig ram machines with the latest nvidia card and 1TB of hard drive space.

What are you on about? My machine will handle it right now...


I do feel the pain for people whose computers won't run it. I was that guy for a LONG time and work darn hard to make sure it doesn't happen again to me.

I'm really looking forward to this.

so any word as to when its coming out?

Early 2009 they say. But more likely summer or later.

stonefox wrote:I can see why already:

all optimised for DX10 and multicore support.

Sorry but if you want to play this game you'll have to put off your next 2 armies while you upgrade or replace your machine.

edit: Oh wait, it's the same typical fanboy circlejerking and OMG 40K CAME BEFORE STARCRAFT . I should've known. These guys probably have quadcore 4gig ram machines with the latest nvidia card and 1TB of hard drive space.

40k WAS Starcraft. Gw dumped it last-minute so they had to change all the races and names.

Are you saying 40k is based off of Starcraft?

No. 40k existed before starcraft, but Starcraft was originally a strategy game sponsored by GW. GW pulled out last-minute, and the company had to make lots of changes to be able to release the game.

And i bet GW realize that as their largest marketing mistake ever.

If you don't trust me, simply look at he Terrans, Protoss and Zerg, or should i say Space Marines, Eldar and Tyrannids?
Any similarities?

http://dawnofwar2.com/us/home

WEEE!

Why do they think that I want to be 'more attatched to my squads' by personalising them?

I just send them off to do a job, its a war based computer game after all....

Ever watched Band of Brothers or Saving Private Ryan, Waagh? It's like that.

I'd probably get attached to my squads if they get squad powerups. Even in mass combat games like Medieval2/Rome: Total War, I happen to like keeping my veteran squads intact.

It's actually a game balance thing; it helps prevent spamming units and sending them to their doom by making them more valuable to keep alive. Company of Heroes does this.

Is that how you were supposed to play COH? I kept my guys alive for the most part because of the pain it was to transport new guys to the front.But, I treated them like meat unless it was a mission where I couldn't afford to lose them.

God yes! Looks like I'll be buying that new flashy gaming computer soon

Ah, the classic reaction of a diehard PC gamer. So Pavlovian.

Well I already have a computer and a card to run this, but I would be picking it up any way. I really liked Dow but CoH is fantastic as well. The two of them together ought to be just great. It sounds alot like they are going back to a "Chaos Gate" sort of thing just real time rather than turned based. The teaser flick was cool, sort of wish the Nob would have smacked the marine around abit before he got brained but we all know the marines are the fav. I for one will be looking after this game.

PCGamer released their article and nuclear pogostick from SA posted scans:

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s129/Nuclear_Pogostick/DOW1.png

replace # with 1-8 or BP for the other pages.

The rumored "heavy dreadnought" looks like a furioso done in a warmachine aesthetic - very top heavy.

I'm very disappointed that the company of heroes' varied forms of cover won't be carried over. They said they will stick with the "basic form" of cover. Too bad, that was one of two reasons I was going to play this game. The other was that they dove for cover and sought better cover as needed. I'll be playing Empire: Total War when this comes out.

stonefox wrote:Ah, the classic reaction of a diehard PC gamer. So Pavlovian.

Why does that name ring a bell?

malfred wrote:

stonefox wrote:Ah, the classic reaction of a diehard PC gamer. So Pavlovian.

Why does that name ring a bell?

.. Dude. Dude.

That one caused me physical pain.