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Thanks for all the feed-back!

@AbsoluteBlue, Somnicide, and MagickalMemories - I agree... the rolla definitely needs more blades. I'm going to add two more and then see how it looks... I may have to add some more pointy bitz in there somewhere as well, just to make the whole thing a little fuller, but either way, thanks for the suggestions.

@MagicKalMemories - Is it just me, or does the battlewagon look like it isn't finished without the prow armor? It would be fun to just attach the rolla directly to the wagon and use that prow for something else (perhaps a stompa ), but there's something about the wagon without the prow that looks a bit weedy. I think I'll play around with some extra plating and hydraulic arms for the rolla to see if I can make the wagon look armor 14 without the prow, but if I don't find a good, bulky, orky alternative, I'll probably put the prow back on and attach the rolla to it permanently... just to keep it brutal looking. (And yes, I used the word "prow" far, far too many times just now.)

@!?, Absolute Blue and Somnicide - I'll probably wind up sticking with the red irised ork eyes, at least for now. I tested an all-red eye and it didn't really seem to have the same pop... I couldn't tell where exactly the boyz were looking... silly, I know, but that adds something to the models for me. I'll do another test of fully red eyes on a future boy and do a sort of orky "taste-test" to see which one works best, but, for now, the IG can still hold their fire until they see the whites of my boyz'z eyes.

@NoobLord - The skin for the boyz takes a few steps, but it's probably even easier than it sounds. I use a black undercoat, then base-coat with Orkhide Shade, do a first highlight with Ordic Olive (a P3 color), and a second highlight with Knarloc Green. Once that's done, I add a bit of Deneb Stone to some Knarloc Green and do some really light highlight strokes with the mix... mainly on faces and such such.
Gotta say, I love the foundation colors for their flat, earthiness... they really work well for the gritty, worn, and dirty nature of orks. Using them for highlighting does require adding a bit more water than is typical for other Citadel Colors (or P3, or Vallejo for that matter), but the extra effort is offset by their awesome tones and qualities. Wow... just had a total painting geek-out moment there.

...now... back to the waaagh-bench...

Hello again! It's been awhile since the last post (work beats waaagh sometimes) but I've been slowly and surely making progress on Waaagh GitSmack.

I wasn't sure if the deffrolla prototype that I was working on recently was going to make the cut. It was coming along alright, and I liked elements of it, but it just didn't seem to have that special zing of inspiration.
But while I was sitting in front of it the other night, after a long day at work, watching it do... well, nothing... I decided to just "get 'er done".

This certainly wasn't going to be my last BattleWagon for the army (or even for the current list I'm toying around with), so why not get it to the point where I can start painting and try it out in a game?

In the orky tradition of "do more fasta", here it is:

The business end (with extra blades, thanks to the suggestions of AbsoluteBlue, Somnicide, and MagickalMemories ):


Some of the bracing:


A "driver's view":


And a fourth shot, because even numbers are neat:


I decided to keep it attached to the prow for aesthetic as well as practical reasons. I like the look of the prow on the BattleWagon kit, but also, if I decide to run a BattleWagon with out a Deffrolla, I can just pop the whole thing off. No magnets, nothing fancy, just a nice, solid, pop-on, plastic on plastic join.

I'm pretty happy with how it turned out in the end. It's far from perfect, but it's orky enough to take the field and it should paint up pretty well. I should get it primed and ready for paint today, weather permitting.


Thanks for checking out the blog and please keep your C&C coming.

combine harvester style deffrolla, good idea, well executed, anymore convertin fer dis battlewagon, or is it onto the painting now??

What material did you use to make that dethrolla? Is it from a solid sheet of thin white plastic which you just cut out the shapes?

Honestly... it still just looks unfinished.
IMO, you need more blades (like, a minimum of 4 more).

LOVE the idea, though.

Eric

Very nice! I think that number of blades works well. It is enough without being cluttered - I personally like a bit of simplicity.

Can't wait to see it painted up.

Have you ever seen a carbide saw blade?
That would help this a lot.

Thanks for checking out my project blog!

nidsmaster wrote:combine harvester style deffrolla, good idea, well executed, anymore convertin fer dis battlewagon, or is it onto the painting now??

Thanks for that... I knew that growing up on a farm would come in handy for something. I think this BattleWagon is pretty much ready for painting. I built it straight from the kit, apart from the rolla, just to see how the basic kit looked and fit together... and to get it ready for gaming more quickly. The next wagon will have a lot more kustom stuff going on... I think I'll make the track portion wider for a start (I've seen some inspiring work done by others around Dakka and The Waaagh! towards this end) and then see what needs to be tinkered with from there.

Dobie wrote:What material did you use to make that dethrolla? Is it from a solid sheet of thin white plastic which you just cut out the shapes?

I used one main thickness of plasticard for the blades (I believe it was 1.5mm), cut the basic shapes, then filed and cleaned them to give the final shape. The rest was made of various thicknesses of plasticard, plastic tubing and plastic rod (for the rivets), with a little wire for some of the engine work. There are some pretty great variety packs available from evergreen plastics that give a wide selection of rods and tubes, or strips and sheets of plastic so you can get started modeling from scratch without investing too much. This stuff is usually stocked at model train stores and such, but I think I saw somewhere that P3 had put out some starter plastic packs, so you might just be able to check out your local gaming store.

MagickalMemories wrote: Honestly... it still just looks unfinished.
IMO, , you need more blades (like, a minimum of 4 more).

LOVE the idea, though.

Thanks for the suggestions More blades... hmmm... you're probably right about that, but I think I think this one will have to do without. At this point, it's gotten a little too crowded in there to fit my razor-saw for another re-cut. "Proper prior planning prevents p#@@ poor performance", according to some, and my planning on this wasn't quite proper. Paint may just have to make up the difference this time around; then I'll know for sure one way or the other before I make the next one. I'll take this as a learning experience.

somnicide wrote:Very nice! I think that number of blades works well. It is enough without being cluttered - I personally like a bit of simplicity.

Can't wait to see it painted up.

Thanks, man! Yeah... I can't wait to see it painted up either. I think this may just have to be the first piece I do with rediculous amounts of gore added to it... but we'll see.

sonofruss wrote:Have you ever seen a carbide saw blade?
That would help this a lot.

I looked at a bunch of different saw blades when I was first thinking about this rolla... I started looking at carbide edged concrete cutters and the like, but they just didn't look like they would mangle as much as make an amazingly clean cut. I based these on a picture I found of a steel-cutter circular blade that looked like it would do horrible, gruesome things to people... and LandRaiders that got in the way. The next rolla will have to have a good mix of blade types for multi-purpose deff-rolling, and for people like yourself that know their saw blades.

Thanks again! I'll try to have an updated pic or two by the end of this weekend.

They are just brilliant ork models! Absolutely genius.

Some might call this threadromancy... but honestly, the thread was just sleeping. Very soundly sleeping.

I have been steadily working on the Waaagh! (basecoating a bunch and playing a few small games), but really haven't had anything picture-worthy to share 'til now.

I thought it would be fun to show the preliminary paint (very WIP) that I've put on the the Deffrolla/BattleWagon, so here goes:

What better way to start the red paintjob than with a little gore:




... then on to a little chipped paint and a rusty exhaust:




And finally, a little tribute to a couple of my opponents:


I like the way things are coming along and I'm fond of the blood-splatter effect on the Deffrolla, though I know the physics of it are way off (the blood would run towards the edges of the blades due to loads of centrifugal force). At the moment, I feel like the splatter is more evocative than the spin pattern would be, but we'll see what wins out in the end.

I have a lot more washing, weathering and detailing to do before I'll be ready to call it done, but I'm really antsy get it table-ready and get down to work on the next unit...

Thanks for stopping by.

Looks great GitSmack! I love the rust, it photographs extremely well. I will have to recover that Crimson Fist armor from you!

Kan't wait to see the nobs all done and riding in it.

Oh yeah, the blade assembly looks so much more beefy now that it is painted. I'd like to see a better pic of the lawnmower engine on the side :-p Oh and where is the infantry model running for its life in the front?

Thanks Somnicide!

No shot of the infantryman running for his life, but here's a shot of the engine:


Again, very WIP, but I like how the little gear shield actually funneled blood splatter onto the gear ("to grease the wheels of progress with the blood of your enemies..." or something like that. )

Everything looks fantastic, seriously! I love the Rolla and the Space Marine armour plates are a great touch.

How do you get blood flecks? I seriously like this army and the way you've done the wagon.

I'm finally moved into my new place, and have at least a pretty good idea which boxes most of my modeling/painting supplies are in, so it's time to get back to work.

oni wrote:Everything looks fantastic, seriously! I love the Rolla and the Space Marine armour plates are a great touch.

Thanks for that! The positive feedback is always inspiring and I'm definitely going to stick to adding different looted armor plates as I continue on with this and the next wagon.

the_ferrett wrote:How do you get blood flecks? I seriously like this army and the way you've done the wagon.

Thanks again. I did the blood flecks with a little trick I picked up from some Fine Scale Modeling magazine I read a few years ago. I mixed Scab Red, a tiny bit of Scorched Brown, some Baal Red wash and Gryphonne Sepia wash, and then thinned the mixture down with a bit of water until the consistancy was very thin... more like ink than paint. Since it was going to be covering such a large area, I used an old toothbrush and dipped just one end in the mix. I then flicked this onto the model by running my thumb over the bristles. This is a pretty messy process, so it's best to set up a cardboard box or some other sort of splash shield to keep the paint off of the floor/drapes/walls...
On smaller scale things, you can create a similar wash and then just use a springy-bristled paintbrush and flick it using an old piece of sprue. Either way works to give a nice random splatter-effect that you can doctor with further washes of purple, red, devlan mud or sepia to get the effect you want. The pictures from the last post don't really have any additional washes, so I'll shoot a few more pictures when I get back to doctoring-up the rolla to the final look... it's decent enough to be table-ready right now, but there's always room for improvement.

With most of my paints still tucked away, I thought I'd try and knock out a few quick deff-koptaz with buzz-saws. I want to get a couple of these ready for gaming quickly, so the kopta itself is straight out of the AoBR box... the saw is the only embellishment.

Here's a general over-view:


A quick look at the back-side:


And... the part I like best... the little joystick that apparently runs the thing:


I have to file a few surfaces smooth and ding a few others (for proper orkiness), but I hope to be able to knock out a couple more of these fairly quickly now that I have the general shape down...

I'm looking forward to getting back to posting more regularly now that I'm not packing or unpacking like a mad-man... so thanks in advance for the continued inspiration!

The details with the joystick and cabling is key to making this look great! Good job!

AbsoluteBlue wrote:The details with the joystick and cabling is key to making this look great! Good job!

Thanks! I'm still working on adding appropriate levels of detail and such to things as I scratch-build. It's funny how the smallest detail can make or break a model...

On that note, I knocked together most of the second buzz-saw last night (minus the cabling) and have a third partially built.







I like how the hydrolics are looking on this and the third saw, though I'm keeping all three looking slightly different from one another to keep with the "Dis goes 'ere..." orky mentality... I'm pretty sure there aren't such things as standardized parts for orks unless they happen to be looting an operational mechanicum factory at the time...

I hope to have the third kopta with saw finished tomorrow night so I can get a group shot and then base them. I get a feeling they're going to be a lot of fun to paint.

Anyway, thanks again for checking my blog.

Wow, that is looking amazing! I love that you have used not only rivets but also bolts and nuts! I can't wait to see it painted up!

I love the joystick, it is totally one of those mechanical claw machines with the prizes in the case! That is ridiculously cool.

Thanks Somnicide. That's what I'll keep in mind as I use them to pluck guard and marine tankers out of their little metal boxes.

I'm having a lot of fun with the kopta gang - I'd proxied a couple in games before now and that put a little fire under me to get these three built. I managed to knock out the third one (and finish the second) just a few minutes ago, so I took a couple of shots of them in the fading daylight...

Here's Kopta 3:

... sadly, I didn't get a shot of the joystick on this one... It's even more of an homage to the "claw" game.

And here's a look at the whole gang:

I think I'll run them as three separate fast attack choices for now, but it's hard to say if there will be more in the list in the future...

I put them on temporary flying bases for the pic, but I'll have to get some real bases ready for them soon so I can start painting them...

Thanks for checking in.

wow...i have so much to learn from you. nice buzz saws.

Hello again. Well, I've been slacking a bit lately and not getting update pics taken, so the blog's been suffering. That's the bad news...

The good news is, that, though the blog has been idle, I haven't been completely unproductive... and I've been slowly and steadily getting more models ready to Waaagh!

Over the past couple of weeks, I've been getting a second battlewagon ready for the 1750 list I'm painting towards. It's going to be carrying my burna boyz and Big Mek NugLutz himself, so I figured I should snazzy it up a bit.
Now, Burna boyz like nothing better than making folks do the "burny dance". In order to make their burny dreams come true, they need fuel... lots and lots of fuel.
With that in mind, I set about modifying a wagon to give them just that... more fuel.

The front (with a plank for NugLutz to reach out and claw other "wagons" from):


Did someone say promethium?:


That rigga looks like he's been sniffin' the barrel again:


A better view of the half-finished shoutin platform:


The rigga's ready for lunch or for bashin sumfin':


Still needs some work before I'm ready to throw rivets on it, but it's starting to take shape.

I think I'm going to have to get some small gage rubber-coated electrical wiring for fuel hoses so that it looks like the burnaz could fill-up or hook-into the big tank.

It might also be fun to add a few more oil drums strapped around the outside of the crew compartment... maybe leaking from bullet holes... but I'm not sure about that. What do you guys think?

I also want to add a deffrolla to this wagon, but with the new ork upgrade sprue coming, I may have to wait for it.

Should I add more plating around the shooting ports in the crew compartment, or do you think that it might seem like I've added an 'ard top (which I really don't want people to think I've added)?

In any case, thanks in advance for your input and thanks for checking my blog!

Your conversions are amazing!

Oui when you next see that wagon it will be blue cause I am nickin' it.

Lookin great! I love the grot with lunchpail - he must be a union grot! I like the flame coming out of tank too, remind me of those refineries.

Once more, I hate you.

Absolutely fantastic! It makes me want to pick up Orks, as odd as that is from a Guardsman view.

I hope we can get some tutorials for the buzzsaws and riveting techniques when you have time.

Keep up this fantastic work! I hope you inspire us all further, and us inspire you in kind!

Thanks for the great feedback! With this kind of encouragement, I can hardly wait to get back to the workbench.

@ ShadowRocket - A Guard player considering orks... now there's a compliment. It may be a little while before I build another buzz-saw, (I have to finish up this beast and get the rest of my 1750 list painted) but as soon as I do, I'll make sure to do a step-by-step tutorial (including the rivets)... they were loads of fun to do and I'm sure another one or two would come in handy. Aporkalypse?...

@ Somnicide - Hehe... the grot union... I can imagine such a thing existing, and I can also imagine that it wouldn't do them a darn bit of good. Like we were talking about the other day, though, I'm going to have to do a whole pit-crew of grots at some point.

@ sonofruss - When lootaz start taking interest in my conversions, I must be doing something right.

@ Vaako - Cheers! Now I need to finish my list.

I'm hoping to get some more build time in on Sunday, but, in the meantime, here's a shot I forgot to post yesterday:


I'm pretty sure I can fit the boxy big shoota turret in that turret ring, but I might go with a hatch instead and just have one of the big shoota boyz stand on the platform to represent the wagon's armament. Do you think anyone would have a problem with that being considered WYSIWIG?

As long as they are armed with what they are shooting you can do what ever you want with the gunners.

Back again with a little progress on my second BattleWagon.

Here's a quick tour around:













After taking the pictures, I've noticed a couple of places that I've missed a rivet or two, but other than that, I'm pretty satisfied with how it's shaping up.

I'm using the new BattleWagon upgrade sprue's lobba to put a regular "kannon" in that little hatch up front. I may have to do some barrel modification on it so it will live up to WYSIWIG, but that shouldn't be too difficult (fingers crossed). Once that's done (and I've added the missing rivets) I'll only need to put a filler handle on the other end of the promethium hose and I think it'll be time to prime this puppy.

Thanks for checking in.

Looks great. I like the empty holes where the rivets should be - I say you leave it like that - orks are lazy gits, if it holds with fewer rivets then that is all that is needed ;-)

I also like the corrugated looking iron plasticard you are using in some places. Can't wait to see it all rusted and craptastic.

Thanks Som! I replaced the lobba barrel with a Kannon barrel last night, so the "Burny Dance Party Wagon" might just be ready for primer.



I also decided to cheat a little bit and magnetize the fuel tank so that it can pop into and out of the back of the wagon. Just in case my burna boyz need to take a vacation from the list at some point.

Tomorrow I think I'll be able to get a group shot of the army as it stands thusfar.