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2009/06/28 07:54:47
Subject: Re:who could take on the emporer?
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
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The chaos gods wanted the Emperor to defeat Horus.
No, seriously, they did. Why? Because if Horus won mankind would be consumed by chaos and quickly cease to exist. This leaves the chaos gods with no toys to play with. OTOH, allowing the Imperium to stagnate for thousands of years allows plenty of time for the chaos gods to play with mortals like the toys they are.
Back on topic: The emperor has been defeated by the Imperium's slow decline into religious ignorance. Even his awesome psychic powers can't stop the Imperium from wasting away to nothing.
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2009/06/28 09:22:31
Subject: who could take on the emporer?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Australia (Recently ravaged by the Hive Fleet Ginger Overlord)
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I don't think the Chaos gods (part from Tzeench) can see that far ahead. Anyway, If humanity fell wouldn't another race eagerly seize up the reigns?
There is still hope for the Imperium. These are it's toughest times, yes, but there is a glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel. It is Imperiums faith in the Emprah thus far that has held them together. If anything thier faith is thier strongest point, not a weakness.
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Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
"Good game guys, now lets hit the showers" 
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2009/06/28 09:37:23
Subject: who could take on the emporer?
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Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought
Where ever the Emperor needs his eyes
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Emperors Faithful wrote:I don't think the Chaos gods (part from Tzeench) can see that far ahead. Anyway, If humanity fell wouldn't another race eagerly seize up the reigns?
There is still hope for the Imperium. These are it's toughest times, yes, but there is a glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel. It is Imperiums faith in the Emprah thus far that has held them together. If anything thier faith is thier strongest point, not a weakness.
If Legion is to be believed as Cannon, something even GW can't agree on, then if humanity is destroyed the Chaos Gods are as well, as so much of their power is drawn from humanity. Eventually over time, new gods could arise how ever.
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2009/06/28 17:34:59
Subject: who could take on the emporer?
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot
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Didn't the Emperor get beat up by an ork until Horus saved him?
Or was it Horus saved by the Emperor?
(Either way, you don't mess with BIG ORKS.)
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Anuvver fing - when they do sumfing, they try to make it look like somfink else to confuse everybody. When one of them wants to lord it over the uvvers, 'e says "I'm very speshul so'z you gotta worship me", or "I know summink wot you lot don't know, so yer better lissen good". Da funny fing is, arf of 'em believe it and da over arf don't, so 'e 'as to hit 'em all anyway or run fer it.
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2009/06/28 22:37:11
Subject: who could take on the emporer?
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Solahma
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Emperors Faithful wrote:It is Imperiums faith in the Emprah thus far that has held them together. If anything thier faith is thier strongest point, not a weakness.
QFT
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2009/06/29 07:06:18
Subject: who could take on the emporer?
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Deadly Dire Avenger
Colorado Springs, CO, USA
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garret wrote:I was wondering can anyone whos alive right know(in the 41st mil that is) take on the emporer and win?
Try a Culexus assassin on for size, corpse god.
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2009/06/29 13:58:06
Subject: who could take on the emporer?
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Foolproof Falcon Pilot
Somewhere in the unknown universe.
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Jesus could take on the emperor.
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Manchu wrote:Agamemnon2 wrote:
Congratulations, that was the stupidest remark the entire wargaming community has managed to produce in a long, long time.
Congratulations, your dismissive and conclusory commentary has provided nothing to this discussion or the wider community on whose behalf you arrogantly presume to speak nor does it engage in any meaningful way the remark it lamely targets. But you did manage to gain experience points toward your next level of internet tough guy.
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2009/06/29 15:53:26
Subject: who could take on the emporer?
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Mindless Spore Mine
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SPARTCUS.
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Thou shalt not attempt to offer a Carnifex a breath mint. 
It is not funny to put an “Eat me” sign on the Librarian’s back prior to a Tyranid attack.
Thou shalt not refer to Ripper Swarms as... “Cute”.
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2009/07/01 09:38:47
Subject: who could take on the emporer?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Australia (Recently ravaged by the Hive Fleet Ginger Overlord)
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BrotherStynier wrote:
If Legion is to be believed as Cannon, something even GW can't agree on, then if humanity is destroyed the Chaos Gods are as well, as so much of their power is drawn from humanity. Eventually over time, new gods could arise how ever.
No, if humanity was annihilated then the chaos gods would be severly weakened, but not destroyed (EVERY SINGLE sentient being would have to be killed for that to happen) and they would eventually find another race for thier attentions (Tau mabye?)
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Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
"Good game guys, now lets hit the showers"
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2009/07/01 10:44:53
Subject: who could take on the emporer?
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Killer Klaivex
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Exarch_Nektel wrote:Jesus could take on the emperor.
The Empra is Jesus. He's just a Super Space Jesus with Psychic Powers ( tm).
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People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. |
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2009/07/01 13:12:16
Subject: who could take on the emporer?
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Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets
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Emperors Faithful wrote:hmmm, so humanity has survived for 12,000 years after emprah?
Emprah?? surely you mean Emperor?
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They dont call me Garybrandy for nothing!
how is it off topic? we hardly know what the topic even is!
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2009/07/04 10:14:05
Subject: who could take on the emporer?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Australia (Recently ravaged by the Hive Fleet Ginger Overlord)
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...Emprah=Emperor, cept cooler.
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Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
"Good game guys, now lets hit the showers"
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2009/07/04 13:29:21
Subject: who could take on the emporer?
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Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought
Where ever the Emperor needs his eyes
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You mean its Indrick Baldeale's way of saying Emperor.
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2009/07/05 01:08:23
Subject: who could take on the emporer?
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Despised Traitorous Cultist
Dublin (on holidays in portugal atm)
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Manchu wrote:I'm not so sure that the Emperor's benevolence is his one weakness. Why he even allowed things to unfold as they did, assuming he is/was truly as powerful as the fluff makes him out to be, is mysterious. But I think that it has something to do with his love for humanity in general and the Primarchs in particular. Most of the Primarch, IMO, are total losers because they do not share this quality with their father. I'm not just talking about the traitors here (who are without exception all total losers). Guilliman and Dorn, for all their righteousness, are just priggish stiffs. It's not clear whether they protect humanity for humanity's sake or out of (1) pride for Roboute and (2) thoughtless, Nazi-like loyalty for Rogal. No need to even talk about the likes of Lion El'Jonson (Thundercats! HO!) The Primarch that comes closest to the Emperor, if not in power or knowledge but rather in sincerity and concern for humanity, is the Wolf King. Also unlike many the others, Russ clearly never saw himself as a copy or possible stand-in/replacement for the Emperor. In sum, most of the Primarchs--including the tremendously vain Horus--lacked the Emperor's greatest strength: the real love and benevolence toward humanity that could unite trillions of people into his service even ten thousand years after his "death."[/quote
However,that being said,if the Emperor loved humanity truly,and to fight so hard 4 its freedom and saftey,
why is their still human slavery within the Imperium???
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2009/07/06 15:22:40
Subject: who could take on the emporer?
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
In your base, ignoring your logic.
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They aren't good humans who believein the emperor.
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2009/07/06 21:25:19
Subject: who could take on the emporer?
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
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a squig
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2009/07/07 01:08:09
Subject: who could take on the emporer?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Australia (Recently ravaged by the Hive Fleet Ginger Overlord)
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@halonachos: wat do you mean?
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Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
"Good game guys, now lets hit the showers"
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2009/07/07 01:29:10
Subject: who could take on the emporer?
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Foolproof Falcon Pilot
Somewhere in the unknown universe.
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Right now, a clogged toilet could take on the Emperor.
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Manchu wrote:Agamemnon2 wrote:
Congratulations, that was the stupidest remark the entire wargaming community has managed to produce in a long, long time.
Congratulations, your dismissive and conclusory commentary has provided nothing to this discussion or the wider community on whose behalf you arrogantly presume to speak nor does it engage in any meaningful way the remark it lamely targets. But you did manage to gain experience points toward your next level of internet tough guy.
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2009/07/07 13:46:41
Subject: who could take on the emporer?
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Unrelenting Rubric Terminator of Tzeentch
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If you mean "who could take on the Emperor as he was at the height of his power", then I doubt that there is any being in the WH40k universe that good. Enough Orks or 'Nids could drag him down, but no single being could stand a chance against the big E. 'Cept maybe Nightbringer, I don't no who he compares to the Night Dragon in terms of power.
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2009/07/07 14:33:45
Subject: who could take on the emporer?
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Wolf Guard Bodyguard in Terminator Armor
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The Primarchs may have been scattered not because they were trying to destroy them, but rather because chaos knew about the coming heresy, they wanted to corrupt Horus, so they allowed him to found first. Then they split the chapters down the middle, creating enough violence and "chaos" that the Gods could draw more power from humanity.
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THE HORUS HERESY: Emprah: Hours, go reconquer the galaxy so there can be a new golden age. Horus: But I should be Emprah, bawwwwww! Emprah: Magnus, stop it with the sorcery. Magnus: But I know what's best, bawwwwww! Emprah: Horus, tell Russ to bring Magnus to me because I said so. Horus: Emprah wants you to kill Magnus because he said so. Russ: Fine. Emprah's always right. Plus Ole Red has already been denounced as a traitor and I never liked him anyway. Russ: You're about to die, cyclops! Magnus: O noes! Tzeentch, I choose you! Bawwwww! Russ: Ah well. Now to go kill Horus. Russ: Rowboat, how have you not been doing anything? Guilliman: . . . I've been writing a book. Russ: Sigh. Let's go. Guilliman: And I fought the Word Bearers! Horus: Oh shi--Spess Puppies a'comin? Abbadon: And the Ultramarines, sir. Horus: Who? Anyway, this looks bad. *enter Sanguinis* What are you doing here? Come to join me? Sanguinius: *throws self on Horus's power claws* Alas, I am undone! When you play Castlevania, remember me! *enter Emprah* Emprah: Horus! So my favorite son killed my favorite daughter! Horus: What about the Lion? Emprah: Never liked her. Horus: No one does. Now prepare to die! *mortally wounds Emprah*Emprah: Au contraire, you dick. *kills Horus* Dorn: Okay, now I just plug this into this and . . . okay, it works! Emprah? Hellooooo? Jonson: I did nothing! Guilliman: I did more nothing that you! Jonson: Nuh-uh. I was the most worthless! Guilliman: Have you read my book? Dorn: No one likes that book. Khan: C'mon guys. It's not that bad. Dorn: I guess not. Russ: You all suck. Ima go bring the Emprah back to life.
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2009/07/07 16:18:49
Subject: Re:who could take on the emporer?
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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Maybe the Emperor had forseen the entire heresy, knew one of his sons would fall to chaos, and then when their confrontation occurred, knew that the Chaos gods would flood their power into that son enough for the Emperor to try and strike at and destroy them while they were vulnerable on the physical plane(i.e. a large portion of their strength was outside of the Warp). Maybe this was the only way he could think of to lure the Chaos gods to where he could strike at them, and if destroyed, he could go about his merry way rebuilding all that Horus destroyed on the way to Terra, turning the galaxy into a better place.
Obviously if that was the case, it didn't really work out as planned... not grimdark enough.
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2009/07/07 22:53:26
Subject: who could take on the emporer?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Australia (Recently ravaged by the Hive Fleet Ginger Overlord)
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...I think the Emprah loved Horus too mcuh to sacrifice him so coldly like that.
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Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
"Good game guys, now lets hit the showers"
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2009/07/07 23:52:26
Subject: who could take on the emporer?
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Devestating Grey Knight Dreadknight
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Emperors Faithful wrote:...I think the Emprah loved Horus too mcuh to sacrifice him so coldly like that.
I guess we'll never know... unless its revealed in the HH books anyway.
He may not have figured it would be Horus. I see the Emperor as a chessmaster in every conceivable way, I'd think he could sacrifice a lot of things to be rid of the Chaos gods if the opportunity presented itself.
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2009/07/08 11:19:14
Subject: who could take on the emporer?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Australia (Recently ravaged by the Hive Fleet Ginger Overlord)
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There are two ways to go about this.
1) We are talking about the Emprah. Alive and healthy, and on his own.
2) We are talking about the Coma Emprah. Not so alive or healthy, but with a huge freaking fort, an orbital fleet, and a whole army of badass custodes.
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Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
"Good game guys, now lets hit the showers"
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2009/07/08 16:53:22
Subject: who could take on the emporer?
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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit
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Manchu wrote:I'm not so sure that the Emperor's benevolence is his one weakness. Why he even allowed things to unfold as they did, assuming he is/was truly as powerful as the fluff makes him out to be, is mysterious. But I think that it has something to do with his love for humanity in general and the Primarchs in particular. Most of the Primarch, IMO, are total losers because they do not share this quality with their father. I'm not just talking about the traitors here (who are without exception all total losers). Guilliman and Dorn, for all their righteousness, are just priggish stiffs. It's not clear whether they protect humanity for humanity's sake or out of (1) pride for Roboute and (2) thoughtless, Nazi-like loyalty for Rogal. No need to even talk about the likes of Lion El'Jonson (Thundercats! HO!) The Primarch that comes closest to the Emperor, if not in power or knowledge but rather in sincerity and concern for humanity, is the Wolf King. Also unlike many the others, Russ clearly never saw himself as a copy or possible stand-in/replacement for the Emperor. In sum, most of the Primarchs--including the tremendously vain Horus--lacked the Emperor's greatest strength: the real love and benevolence toward humanity that could unite trillions of people into his service even ten thousand years after his "death."
May i ask why "love" is always the greatest weapon, i mean i dont see how love made the emporer powerful, or how "love" made Harry Potter survive the killing curse, that voldemort used on him, tbh i'd rather have a ak47 anyday.
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2009/07/08 16:55:08
Subject: who could take on the emporer?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Edward Scissor Hands
Hello Kitty Marines
Chuck Norris
This dude (CAN'T WAIT FOR AC 2!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
Teh Emprah Hes no Chansece!
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2009/07/08 23:58:50
Subject: who could take on the emporer?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Australia (Recently ravaged by the Hive Fleet Ginger Overlord)
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...I think the legion of custodes would disagree with you.
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Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
"Good game guys, now lets hit the showers"
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2009/07/11 08:46:55
Subject: who could take on the emporer?
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Sure Space Wolves Land Raider Pilot
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The emporer hasn't spoken in like thousand of years. What if he is in a vegative state and the only thing that is keeping him alive is his psychic essance? In that case then anybody could kick his... Unless if the emporer could rencarnate...
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2009/07/11 23:09:25
Subject: who could take on the emporer?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
Australia (Recently ravaged by the Hive Fleet Ginger Overlord)
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Hmmm, the sistas of battle saw the Emprah himself I fink. Now if it had been an inatimate corspe they would not have been THAT impressed, but they saw...SUMFINK...that made them change sides and kill thier heretical leader. Something big...
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Smacks wrote:
After the game, pack up all your miniatures, then slap the guy next to you on the ass and say.
"Good game guys, now lets hit the showers"
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2009/07/12 00:52:37
Subject: who could take on the emporer?
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Sure Space Wolves Land Raider Pilot
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Emperors Faithful wrote:Hmmm, the sistas of battle saw the Emprah himself I fink. Now if it had been an inatimate corspe they would not have been THAT impressed, but they saw...SUMFINK...that made them change sides and kill thier heretical leader. Something big...
Maybe it WAS the fact that seeing the now crippled emperor made the SOB's realize what a great sarcifice he made.
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Started my Salamanders army 
13th company 2900 points 