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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/24 15:31:51
Subject: Fremen Army
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Sister Oh-So Repentia
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Bless the Maker and all His Water. Bless the coming and going of Him, May His passing cleanse the world. May He keep the world for his people.
Beautiful Army! I normally don't like themed armies such as this but i'm such a sucker for the Dune Universe. Your fremen are amazing and i noticed those water rings right away. Unlike some i prefer the look of the movie fremen (whole cast actually) to that of the miniseries, I've always found the movie matched the books description of the characters, Especially the Duke, Paul, & Jessica.
I had been thinking about adding a Bene Gesserit squad to my SoB army for the fun of it but i don't know how i could compete with your army.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/24 15:38:50
Subject: Re:Fremen Army
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Sack of Flesh & Bones
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Muad'Dib would describe your force as 'desert power'
You have to do some Harkonnens, just use them as disguised Sardaukar.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/24 17:12:25
Subject: Fremen Army
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LunaHound wrote:Klausmasterflex works for movie special effects i bet!
Lol I wish. Here's as good a place as any to learn a little more about me.
I'm actually a graduate student at Savannah College of Art and Design in the MFA program for Interactive Design and Game Development. Believe it or not I'm an illustrator/concept artist by trade and, if you've seen my post on BRUTAL, work freelance for several game companies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/25 02:03:52
Subject: Re:Fremen Army
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Simply stunning.
Amazing work!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/26 08:05:52
Subject: Fremen Army
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Flower Picking Eldar Youth
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very clever conversions, you make me want to read some more dune books
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/26 11:10:40
Subject: Fremen Army
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FrantzFanon wrote:Awesome. Pure Awesome.
What he said. I always found Dune a bit weird and cheesy for my tastes, but these are some awesome conversions. Well done, sir
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Back on the planet Quecks, Rockhead Rumple is wreaking havoc!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/27 05:37:05
Subject: Fremen Army
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Fantastic work here. Your attention to detail is commendable.
No Gurney Halleck? :(
Might be tricky with Black Templar but I think you need to add some Inquisitorial stuff. Adding an inquisitor and retinue is a nice way to add a mentat, etc.
For Bene G's, I think you could use a callidus or cullexus or maybe death cult assassins. By adding the Inquistor you open up that possibility.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/27 06:23:15
Subject: Fremen Army
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winterman wrote:Fantastic work here. Your attention to detail is commendable.
No Gurney Halleck? :(
Might be tricky with Black Templar but I think you need to add some Inquisitorial stuff. Adding an inquisitor and retinue is a nice way to add a mentat, etc.
For Bene G's, I think you could use a callidus or cullexus or maybe death cult assassins. By adding the Inquistor you open up that possibility.
Ya no Gurney. I thought about using him as a Helbrecht with lots of neophytes as left over atreides soldiers, but there are some issues with this idea which I haven't quite gotten to yet. Also, the best part of inquisitors is often their psychic powers- Black templars can't use allies who have psychic powers (except GKs) so the use of inquisitors is a little complicated as well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/27 06:42:48
Subject: Fremen Army
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I would almost betray the emperor to join these guys....NOT! lol =p Excellent work!
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"That for all the Emperor's love of his space marines, his ultimate creation - he was in fact nearly killed by one of them, only to be saved by a mere mortal with a 5+ save and a flashlight."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/27 06:46:41
Subject: Fremen Army
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Jon Touchdown wrote:I would almost betray the emperor to join these guys....NOT! lol =p Excellent work!
You wouldn't be! Who do you think the Fremen serve exactly....?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/God_Emperor_of_Dune
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Best, Klaus.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/27 21:44:30
Subject: Fremen Army
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Easily one of the best themed armies I've ever seen.
Though I could never far enough into the Dune universe to really enjoy it, I have nothing but respect for Frank Herbert and his creation. And you have done it more than justice.
I think this just gave me enough inspiration to start on my own (completely unrelated) themed army that I've had in the back of my head since I first started Warhammer Fantasy.
I'll put in a second vote for Leto II as a Baneblade (Despite canonical impurity). Also, since you're considering this to be Fremen in the 41st century, perhaps you could have some fun creating your own characters in the vein of Maud'Dib. I'm sure a select few people have risen up to lead the Fremen in that amount of time.
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The Tainted - Pending
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/27 22:02:06
Subject: Re:Fremen Army
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You sir are an exelent modeler, as i looked through your pics I found myself continually sayng "DAAAMMN"
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Whoever appeals to the law against his fellow man is either a fool or a coward. Whoever cannot take care of himself without that law is both. For a wounded man shall say to his assailant, "If I Die, You are forgiven. If I Live, I will kill you." Such is the Rule of Honor.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/04 15:48:10
Subject: Fremen Army
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I thought the Duncan gholas usu died because they couldn't handle discovering that they were gholas? Also some issue with a creeping insanity as they aged and memories of their previous life pre-ghola crept into the mind of a physical being who had not actually done those things? Automatically Appended Next Post: Oh, and excellent work, BTW!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/06 05:14:08
Subject: Re:Fremen Army
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you sir are a godking at modeling
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Sing Us a Sea shanti so great that we will laugh our gizzards out, ya scurvy dog
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/06 06:18:10
Subject: Fremen Army
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How do you paint your bases? I like that look a lot.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/07 01:16:13
Subject: Re:Fremen Army
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This is awesome. By the way are you going to read the new book "Winds of Dune".
EDIT: are you going to make any fish speakers?
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Admiral Chester W Nimitz wrote:The war with Japan had been re-enacted in the game rooms here by so many people and in so many different ways, that nothing that happened during the war was a surprise.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/07 04:54:48
Subject: Fremen Army
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Also I have never read Dune, but this might be something to look at. SOUNDS like it would fit in.
Got it from the news section.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/07 13:59:14
Subject: Re:Fremen Army
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Ground Crew
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Wow! That's all I can say
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63rd Barian Cadre - Work In Progress 0% complete |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/07 14:24:52
Subject: Fremen Army
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Simply awesome! I love the 'thopter conversion - btw, I just read Nightbringer and the PDF of Pavonis uses ornithopters so you aced the fluff-mesh!
I like the way you've approached the use of characters from Dune in the army. If you field Leto II, make sure you include Fishwives!
I don't know how I feel about the Sardukar helping out Fremen, but I guess you've got to bend the rules somewhere to make things fit...
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What harm can it do to find out? It's a question that left bruises down the centuries, even more than "It can't hurt if I only take one" and "It's all right if you only do it standing up." Terry Pratchett, Making Money
"Can a magician kill a man by magic?" Lord Wellington asked Strange. Strange frowned. He seemed to dislike the question. "I suppose a magician might," he admitted, "but a gentleman never could." Susanna Clarke Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/07 14:48:56
Subject: Re:Fremen Army
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I know nothing about the Black Templars and even less about Dune, but I am thoroughly impressed and inspired. Dude...simply incredible! As an Ork player / noob converter who enjoys building his own stuff and creating weapons, I can imagine how pleasing this army must be to field. I mean, even if you lost every game - which you clearly stated you don't - it would feel awesome to play these guys! To see your mind's creation locked in bloody combat must be the most rewarding part! Great work and thanks for the inspiration.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/07 14:53:11
Subject: Re:Fremen Army
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Thunderhawk Pilot Dropping From Orbit
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Is the ornithopter made from the Jedi fighter toy or a model? If it is a model what scale?
Beautiful army. I'd always thought about something like this but you have made it a reality.
ender502
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/08 15:11:40
Subject: Fremen Army
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Cog in the Machine
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grizgrin wrote:I thought the Duncan gholas usu died because they couldn't handle discovering that they were gholas? Also some issue with a creeping insanity as they aged and memories of their previous life pre-ghola crept into the mind of a physical being who had not actually done those things?
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Oh, and excellent work, BTW!
The Duncan gholas die for many many many reasons. Generally speaking, they don't die from the revelation of death- in fact, a Duncan cannot regain his previous memories until he has faced this realization. As one might imagine, the sudden influx of every memory and emotion from one's multiple past lives is nearly enough to kill a man, only nearly. Duncan's generally die one of three ways:
1.Leto II kills them.
2.Leto II's forces kill them.
3.They die in battle somewhere.
Leto II keeps purchasing gholas to preserve the Atreides gene stock and to keep the spirit of revolution alive- Duncan had been a slave in his first life, and as such has an insurmountable hatred of Tyranny. As such is the case, he always tries to revolt against Leto II, often inspiring entire populaces to join him.
Chrysaor686 wrote:Easily one of the best themed armies I've ever seen.
Though I could never far enough into the Dune universe to really enjoy it, I have nothing but respect for Frank Herbert and his creation. And you have done it more than justice.
I think this just gave me enough inspiration to start on my own (completely unrelated) themed army that I've had in the back of my head since I first started Warhammer Fantasy.
I'll put in a second vote for Leto II as a Baneblade (Despite canonical impurity). Also, since you're considering this to be Fremen in the 41st century, perhaps you could have some fun creating your own characters in the vein of Maud'Dib. I'm sure a select few people have risen up to lead the Fremen in that amount of time.
I have considered Leto II before- the only way I could live with myself is if I played chaos and treated him as one of the legendary greater daemons.
With that said, I HAVE considered playing the Fremen as both chaos and black templars- that way I could use Bene Gesserit as sorcerers with lash (representing the power of voice).
Goodge wrote:you sir are a godking at modeling
That's God Emperor to you
Captain Shrike wrote:You sir are an exelent modeler, as i looked through your pics I found myself continually sayng "DAAAMMN" 
Thanks! Half of my strategy is that when you see my army you simply don't know how to react.
GMMStudios wrote:How do you paint your bases? I like that look a lot.
I'll indulge you then! I start with a primer of grey- any old krylon or whatever is fine. I then drybrush the base vomit brown (I believe), it's pretty much a darkish yellow. Next is a drybrush of khaki followed by drybrushes of bleached bone, VERY light skull white and my secret weapon 'white metal' by Game Colour. The previous paints give it an earthy, desert like feel, but Arrakis is mentioned as having silvery grey sand. With the addition of white metal, you get grey sand which juuuust manages to catch the light just right.
yeri wrote:This is awesome. By the way are you going to read the new book "Winds of Dune".
EDIT: are you going to make any fish speakers?
I have tried and tried again to read Brian Herbert's stuff- every time I get a chapter in and then get this unmistakable feeling that I'm reading someone's fan fiction, not the masters original idea. I'm sure I'll attempt it, but we'll have to see. Also, I have considered making fish speakers- but have yet decided how... The fish speakers were the most potent warriors the universe ever saw. However, in 40k armor = potency, generally speaking (terminator vs. space marine). I have considered using them as termies, but the problem persists that fish speakers never rode worms- the main transport in my army. Also, I could use them as deep strikers, but if you have ever faced my army, you know that my main tactic is unified strike... on my terms. Deepstrikers and reserves are too spotty for me since when I decide the time is ripe to attack, I go for it in full force. Also, the fish speakers were INSANELY fast- termies can't even pursue...  I guess I could use them as sword brethren, but we'll see.
GMMStudios wrote:Also I have never read Dune, but this might be something to look at. SOUNDS like it would fit in.
Got it from the news section.
Thanks! I always appreciate alternative models, whether or not I use them in my Fremen force (my other current project is a vampire grey knight force)
barisax1990 wrote:Wow! That's all I can say
Gavin Thorne wrote:Simply awesome! I love the 'thopter conversion - btw, I just read Nightbringer and the PDF of Pavonis uses ornithopters so you aced the fluff-mesh!
I like the way you've approached the use of characters from Dune in the army. If you field Leto II, make sure you include Fishwives!
I don't know how I feel about the Sardukar helping out Fremen, but I guess you've got to bend the rules somewhere to make things fit...
I too had issues with the Sardaukar, however, remember this... After the fall of Shaddam IV (Emperor before Paul) the Sardaukar became loyal to the new emperor. Although they were eventually phased out by Fremen and ultimately the fish speakers, Sardaukar did exist for several hundred years after Paul's ascension. Also, I generally put Duncan with the Sardaukar- this represents the fact that in the Dune story line, the last of the Sardaukar fell when Duncan led an insurrection with them against Leto II- only to be utterly crushed.
FlightMek wrote:I know nothing about the Black Templars and even less about Dune, but I am thoroughly impressed and inspired. Dude...simply incredible! As an Ork player / noob converter who enjoys building his own stuff and creating weapons, I can imagine how pleasing this army must be to field. I mean, even if you lost every game - which you clearly stated you don't - it would feel awesome to play these guys! To see your mind's creation locked in bloody combat must be the most rewarding part! Great work and thanks for the inspiration.
Playing an army you made and painted entirely is beyond words
ender502 wrote:Is the ornithopter made from the Jedi fighter toy or a model? If it is a model what scale?
Beautiful army. I'd always thought about something like this but you have made it a reality.
ender502
It's the Obi Wan Star fighter model. It came from a box set at Michael's Craft Stores and was a 'snap together' set. I don't remember what scale it was exactly, but I think it was more in the 1:32 range...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/08 15:47:34
Subject: Fremen Army
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I had a thought: you could field the force using the Eldar codex. I'm partial to them, though, so I'd naturally think they'd be best.
Guardian (Storm or Defender) Fishwives, Harlie and Aspect Fremen, Wave Serpent & Falcon Worms, Duncan as Autarch or Farseer. Warlocks could be Bene Gesseret, Guildsmen or even a Naib Council! Think about it! This would give the army the legendary mobility the Fremen are renown for.
Oh yeah, Leto II as the Avatar...
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What harm can it do to find out? It's a question that left bruises down the centuries, even more than "It can't hurt if I only take one" and "It's all right if you only do it standing up." Terry Pratchett, Making Money
"Can a magician kill a man by magic?" Lord Wellington asked Strange. Strange frowned. He seemed to dislike the question. "I suppose a magician might," he admitted, "but a gentleman never could." Susanna Clarke Jonathan Strange & Mr. Norrell
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/08 16:02:49
Subject: Fremen Army
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Gavin Thorne wrote:I had a thought: you could field the force using the Eldar codex. I'm partial to them, though, so I'd naturally think they'd be best.
Guardian (Storm or Defender) Fishwives, Harlie and Aspect Fremen, Wave Serpent & Falcon Worms, Duncan as Autarch or Farseer. Warlocks could be Bene Gesseret, Guildsmen or even a Naib Council! Think about it! This would give the army the legendary mobility the Fremen are renown for.
Oh yeah, Leto II as the Avatar... 
hmmm very cool! I'll have to playtest it ASAP!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/09 16:47:52
Subject: Fremen Army
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Lethal Lhamean
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Sardaukar omg .. wut.. wow
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/08/09 17:54:36
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I have considered making fish speakers- but have yet decided how...
I really don't know anything about Dune off hand. However if you were looking for something potent and possibly fast, maybe look outside the Black Templar. You can always use Grey Knights/ Assassins for a great deal of things. Reading about them they sound like normal Grey Knight squads would seem effective. strength 6 close combat with storm bolters is a mean combo.
Also I was curious, why did you choose to use Black Templar?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/09/11 16:53:01
Subject: Re:Fremen Army
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Rook wrote:I have considered making fish speakers- but have yet decided how...
I really don't know anything about Dune off hand. However if you were looking for something potent and possibly fast, maybe look outside the Black Templar. You can always use Grey Knights/ Assassins for a great deal of things. Reading about them they sound like normal Grey Knight squads would seem effective. strength 6 close combat with storm bolters is a mean combo.
Also I was curious, why did you choose to use Black Templar?
I chose to use black templar primarily because of their cc prowess. However, they also had special rules which really captured the zealotry of the Fremen (litanies of hate, oaths, righteous zeal, etc).
With the new space wolves book coming out, however, they may find themselves challenged for proxihood!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/17 08:39:00
Subject: Fremen Army
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This is an amazing army,
It's inspired me to create my own army with similar troops but base it on eldar.
Awesome work
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/17 09:44:07
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Paul atreides approves.
Fantastic work everywhere. Love the worms.
(funny, i have always pictured fremen dressed in white. I know they wore brown in the movie, but seriously, camoflage be damned, you don't absorb more sunlight than you need to on dune. But that's just me.)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/10/17 18:59:48
Subject: Fremen Army
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wow ... this is truly an astonishing , jaw dropiing expierince ..
i have vent throug three pages and it feels like 300 pages of epic awesomeness O.o
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