Request rumors of battle missions and co-releasing models - Anyone got any dirt?

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**derek**

Agamemnon2 wrote:because the new Basilisk doesn't have any. In fact, it seems we've already seen it, since at least one Battle Missions preview had a picture of a Basilisk with Hellhound-style side plates. That's all, folks.

That would fit in with "smart business decisions" (read the quotes as a sarcasm wrap), to cut the sprues needed down to reduce production costs in the long term, while raising the price approx 10 bucks to pay for the short term cost of new molds.

Personally though, I'm still hoping for a Medusa to save myself having to carve up Basilisk guns to make them, or buying the expensive FW kits.

**Kid_Kyoto**

Building a Storm Lord leaves you with a nice little gun suitable for a Medusa. You should be able to order the bitz from most bitz places.

But I agree, not including mutiple guns is just silly of GW. But par for the course.

**Alpharius**

Good call on the Super Heavy bit solution though!

**Howlingmoon**

No chaos stuff = I don't care about it.

**Kurgash**

No new plastic tomb spyder I had hoped for make me =(

**Howlingmoon**

UltraPrime wrote:
Alpharius wrote:Um, he's kidding.

I think.

That was the 'official' GW line back when they were trying to convince everyone that:

1) Online Forums are BAD and full of nonsense. (Er, well, they're half right!)

2) NO, the mystery box is NOT Space Hulk. (OK, it is Space Hulk!)

Unfortunately, that phrase has been overused so much it's just tedious now.

oh I have at least another year of running that into the ground. get used to it.

**dogma**

Getting used to something does not mean it cannot be referred to as tedious. After all, people need to be reminded when they're being boring.

**Harms66**

Kurgash wrote:No new plastic tomb spyder I had hoped for make me =(

Oh come on, Necron are finished, it just that GM's to scared to admit it.

**Sidstyler**

JRedbeard wrote:I guess im not that business savvy, but I dont understand why they keep this stuff a secret.

If they told me on March 15th they were releasing kits for missing artillery / tank options for the guard then I'd start setting my money aside now. I want like 6 hydras just for fun, and its going to cost me.

But its all secret and mysterious, maybe ill just buy a computer game or three in the meantime, and have no money when this stuff releases, seems like lost opportunity on their part.

I dont know, but maybe im missing something.

That's not how they think about it. They just assume that you'll buy the computer game(s) and the new models when they come out.

**Kurgash**

Harms66 wrote:
Kurgash wrote:No new plastic tomb spyder I had hoped for make me =(

Oh come on, Necron are finished, it just that GM's to scared to admit it.

Just like DE, waiting on the boarding platform lol. Their train will arrive I'm sure...one day.

**BrassScorpion**

The GW Advance Order Warhammer 40K page is now empty because the latest Legion of the Damned models were released yesterday. That means the Battle Missions book and related new model releases for March will be going up on that page shortly, perhaps as early as this week. I plan on checking it every day this week as I'm quite interested to see exactly what all the new 40K items for March actually look like.

**Wurr??**

Hey, because there is nothing more fun than throwing more fuel on the speculation fire, on the US GW site, the Chimera and the Killa Kans are missing. Is this true for other people?

I am guessing this will all be a moot point in a day or two.

**Paladin Blake**

Wurr?? wrote:
Hey, because there is nothing more fun than throwing more fuel on the speculation fire, on the US GW site, the Chimera and the Killa Kans are missing. Is this true for other people?

I am guessing this will all be a moot point in a day or two.

A recut Chimera and Plastic Killa Kans are confirmed for March. It's also almost positive that we're getting a venerable dread, a deff dread, and a basilisk in addition to the Chimera and the Kans.

**Dysartes**

The interesting questions now are what extras will the kits contain? reds8n has pretty much confirmed that the ven dread doesn't help SM players get all their weapon options in plastic, for instance.

Will the Chimera have options for the codex weapon mounts?
Will the Basilisk kit make any other artillery options?
Will the Killa Kans be vaguely straightforward to construct?
Will the Deff Dread be able to hear anything?

All these questions, and more, may be answered when the Advance Order page gets updated.....

**Flashman**

Probably updated tomorrow, both Warhammer and 40K Advance Order pages are tumbleweed city at the moment...

**Scottywan82**

Flashman wrote:Probably updated tomorrow, both Warhammer and 40K Advance Order pages are tumbleweed city at the moment...

Not necessarily. LOTR still has a few. Maybe they'll be blank until the 20th to drive up those LOTR sales.

**Harms66**

Dysartes wrote:The interesting questions now are what extras will the kits contain? reds8n has pretty much confirmed that the ven dread doesn't help SM players get all their weapon options in plastic, for instance.

Will the Chimera have options for the codex weapon mounts?
Will the Basilisk kit make any other artillery options?
Will the Killa Kans be vaguely straightforward to construct?
Will the Deff Dread be able to hear anything?

All these questions, and more, may be answered when the Advance Order page gets updated.....

The Chimera box set contains one multi-part plastic Imperial Guard Chimera. This 95-piece set comes with a range of assembly options allowing you to customise your miniature, including: a turret-mounted multi-laser, a turret-mounted heavy flamer, a turret-mounted heavy bolter, a hull-mounted heavy flamer, a hull-mounted heavy bolter, a hunter-killer missile and two different tank commanders

The Basilisk stil only has the massive earthshaker cannon

THe Killa Kans and Dread looks cool, and 3 kans for £27, not too bad.

**Alpharius**

Harms66 wrote:

The Basilisk stil only has the massive earthshaker cannon

This is sad, and stupid of GW...

Harms66 wrote:

THe Killa Kans and Dread looks cool, and 3 kans for £27, not too bad.

This, depending upon what they look like, is good!

It

And voila...

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCats.jsp?catId=cat1490603&rootCatGameStyle=wh40k

Mmm, that dred looks nice. wouldn'nt mind a few of those.. OR 8 MILLION!!! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

**Paladin Blake**

Congratulations, GW. Way to make the Basilisk even less appealing.

**Agamemnon2**

Paladin Blake wrote:Congratulations, GW. Way to make the Basilisk even less appealing.

Which is an impressive feat in its own right. I've not seen a single Basilisk since the new IG Codex came out last spring. Not even in Apocalypse. Nobody wants them. If GW had simply taken the kit off sale, a lot of people wouldn't've given a toss.

**Mewiththeface**

I don't understand what is bad about basilisks. Someone mind explaining it to me?

**Paladin Blake**

It's mostly that Basilisks really aren't useful. Demolishers and other Russ variants are more survivable (and lack little in the way of firepower) and the other artillery options are better at killing infantry and vehicles. Really, the only advantage that basilisks have are that they can fire indirectly, but a 36" minimum range helps to solidly undermine that.

**chaplaingrabthar**

Does anyone have a table of contents or similar for the Battle Missions book?

(read: What are the Tau or Salamander scenarios therein?)

**BrassScorpion**

Basilisks can still fire directly and there's no minimum range for direct fire. However, they are easily killed by fast moving armies even when you hide them near the back of your deployment. A Russ is a better all-around value, more survivable and generally does the same or more damage, especially with the newest Codex, but in a high point game the indirect fire option on the Basilisk can still make them fun and nasty.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

chaplaingrabthar wrote:Does anyone have a table of contents or similar for the Battle Missions book?

(read: What are the Tau or Salamander scenarios therein?)

Not at the moment, but Black Boxes should be in stores Friday at the latest, so we'll all know more by then.

**Uriels_Flame**

The new dread kit looks fabulous. Can't wait.

**reds8n**

From Warseer, shouts out to Mr. Usagi3 for this info

Okay guys, got the Battle Missions book in my hand ! It was the French version, please forgive my bad English.

30 missions, 3 for each faction (IG, SM, CSM, Daemons, Tyranids, Eldars, Dark Eldars, Necrons, Orks, Tau). No Inquisition, no specific SM chapters.

You choose your battle missions by :
- throwing 1d6. The winner get to use one random mission from the 3 of his faction ;
- randomly (using 1d66)
- super randomly. Throw 1d6 on a table, giving you 3 choices (standard rulebook, first method, random method).

The missions are very different, using lots of deployments variants and one or two specific (simple) rules. Each faction gets 8 pages : 2 of fluff, and 2 for each mission.

In the end, there are 3 special missions :
- Commandos : 200pts, special FOC (0-1 Elite, 0-1 Fast Attack, 0-2 Troops) ;
- 3 Baneblades against whoever feels suicidary enough ;
- QG duel, without using named characters.

all of which sounds about right to me, little awkward about the I not getting any missions... remind me are they the ones with missions in the back already anyway yes ?

**Balance**

C: WH has a mission in the back, (Something like "Defend the Shrine") but I'm not sure how compatible it is with the current edition. It's a generic enough mission I could see a lot of forces being the defenders in it.

I'd be interested to hear how many of these missions have weird stuff like (for example) a mission centering around a CHaos artifact that occasionally does weird chaosy stuff or something, as opposed to just different starting layouts and combinations of the basic mission rules.

**reds8n**

That's right, these are the ones with the adversary rules in and that.

I believe, with reference to the previous, he means an HQ duel.