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Demogerg wrote:Few things to note about Halo

the orginial Halo was meant to be PC only, it garnered a lot of hype while still in production stages, so Microsoft bought bungie to make Halo an Xbox exclusive to capitalize on the hype.

The story line for Halo mimicked that of a book, I think the title was "Ringworld" I recall an article in a PC gamer maginze I used to have that the entire basis for the first halo game seemed to be lifted directly from that novel, with the only substantial change being names.

Both untrue:

1) The original Halo was meant to be Mac only, and was an RTS
2) Unless I was reading a different Ringworld, it's got very little in common with Halo. The only significant similarity is the Ring, and even that differs hugely between the two - Niven's is a much larger, more complex affair.

The concept of the "halo" and Ringworld is similar. Both borrow from Freeman Dyson's theories on "dyson spheres" - only are more simplified.

Both are an artificial ring-shaped construct around a star in order to contain something.

In Halo's case, it is the "flood".

In Ringworld's case, it is a protective measure against the core explosion (the suns at the core of the milky Way have/are going nova and causing a cascade effect on nearby stars with their gamma-ray bursts and the wave front will kill all life within X thousand years). It was intended as an 'ark' of sorts for the descendants of its builders so that they could survive the radiation storms preceding the core explosion.

Dreadnote is right: Ringworld and Halo are nothing alike apart from superficial similarities in their constructs.

Truth be told, Halo borrows more from the Bible than Ringworld.

The only reason I still play halo 3 is because I've played all the halo games since they were released and it finishes of the story. It's more for nostalgia than fun.

Ive never been too fond of Halo, I beat all the games on legendary and all and Im pretty good at the multi.
Idk why I dont like it, maybe...

Maybe just not enough WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGH!!

Meh, Halo is meh.

In the first installment, pistol is OP.

It's widely believed to have been an error. The pistol's strength was raised last minute to give it more utility in campaign, but it wasn't lowered again for multiplayer. Thus, 3-4 shot kills.

Feth that pistol. Completely screwed over the multiplayer on the PC version.

Yeah the pistol has a lot of controversy..

That pistol was the single greatest weapon in any fps, ever.
Ok maybe not, but come on! It's a lowly pistol with a scope, and bullets that strike with the force of a bolt shell on steroids. What's not to like? And you're hardly at a disadvantage against the superpistol, because you get one too.

The Dreadnote wrote:

Demogerg wrote:Few things to note about Halo

the orginial Halo was meant to be PC only, it garnered a lot of hype while still in production stages, so Microsoft bought bungie to make Halo an Xbox exclusive to capitalize on the hype.

The story line for Halo mimicked that of a book, I think the title was "Ringworld" I recall an article in a PC gamer maginze I used to have that the entire basis for the first halo game seemed to be lifted directly from that novel, with the only substantial change being names.

Both untrue:

1) The original Halo was meant to be Mac only, and was an RTS
2) Unless I was reading a different Ringworld, it's got very little in common with Halo. The only significant similarity is the Ring, and even that differs hugely between the two - Niven's is a much larger, more complex affair.

I hadn't read the article that told me about the book in over 10 years, so I was a little fuzzy on the details.

However, at its first unveiling it was a shooter, not an RTS, original design may have been an RTS, but that was not how the public was introduced to it.

Oh yeah, when it was unveiled to the public it was a shooter. It was apparently meant to be released on mac/pc simultaneously though. Irrelevant details really

Halo's story would make mor sense if it was set in the 2200s not 2500s, i mean, 5.56 NATO rounds, 500 years in the future? and the FU N FANBOYS, DAMN THEM TO THE WARP, they are so freakin annoying the way they talk there is no game better than halo, i know one of my freinds is such a fanboy i blocked commuinications so he wouldent bug me by sending game invites.
passing over that, the multiplayer was good for 2 and 3 and the story was good for 1.

I think 500 years is about right for developing interstellar travel and colonising a few hundred worlds. The reason the human forces use bullets isn't so much down to story as it is gameplay though. It's to do with creating a strong identity; the aliens have exotic plasma weapons, the humans have bullets. Start giving all the humans lasers and it blurs the lines between factions.

The Dreadnote wrote:I think 500 years is about right for developing interstellar travel and colonising a few hundred worlds. The reason the human forces use bullets isn't so much down to story as it is gameplay though. It's to do with creating a strong identity; the aliens have exotic plasma weapons, the humans have bullets. Start giving all the humans lasers and it blurs the lines between factions.

yea Dreadnotes REALLY right on that.....think of how many times you'd confuse a marine for a alien in a firefight.......hell....Everyone would be dead cause I'd be sooooo confused.....

But I must say....The MA5B Assault Rifle to this day....is right under the bolt pistol is my favorite weapon!!!! Its spray and pray action was simply devastatingly AMAZING!!!!! Does anyone else love this gun? I miss it....and was REALLY pissed when they completely eliminated the gun from the 2nd and 3rd games.....and they terrible assualt rifle in the third game is in no way a remake of it....it sucks ass.

IMO, Larry Niven's RingWorld > Halo.
One of the reasons why Halo never gripped me.

Though I do like to watch compilations of funny kills on youtube

What is Ring World?????? you guys have mentioned it but I've never heard of it.

I haven't read it for some time, but: It's a hard sci-fi novel (infact a series of novels) about a bunch of guys who for reasons I forget discover/travel to a giant, ring-shaped construct floating in space, and spend the rest of the book trying to unravel it's mysteries.

That sounds pretty cool.....but I wouldn't read it.....I know about the Warhammer 40k series and I don't think I want to change.
Thanks for the info!

You've gotta branch out into other sci-fi eventually, if only to give yourself something decent to read. Try it, you'll thank me later.

The Dreadnote wrote:You've gotta branch out into other sci-fi eventually, if only to give yourself something decent to read. Try it, you'll thank me later.

I agree. In response, I suggest The Mote in God's Eye and it's sequel The Gripping Hand(or any of the CoDominium series, really). Some of the best Scifi ever, IMO.

Both were co-written by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle.

The Dreadnote wrote:You've gotta branch out into other sci-fi eventually, if only to give yourself something decent to read. Try it, you'll thank me later.

Well I have read a few other books....its just that I don't read ALL the time...I usually only read when I'm at school....rarely do I read at home....
But I've read the second Starstrike book(I have a problem with reading the second book and not knowing until someone tells me or I find the first book), and the halo series up to contact harvest.....and Red Dwarf which was pretty amazing, and a few Aliens books.