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Ketara wrote: Metallica did their S&M album with an orchestra
Metallica is the greatest band of all time and space. Even in the 41st millenium, nothing can top them.
Grambo wrote:Well,i think its raly annoying.When i over at his house and hes watching it,i drown it out with slayer.
Maybe I should start a thread on how I hate Slayer...
H.B.M.C wrote:
I mean just look at the recent bumbling acts of marketing childishness we've seen in just the past year! Iron Man 2. All the trailers, previews, interviews, Comi-Con panels, tie-ins with burger joints and whatnot. None of that should have happened. The real way to market a movie like Iron Man 2 is to not tell anyone you're making it until a week before its release and then BAM, you hit 'em with the movie. You get everyone to sign NDA's that are punishable by forfeiture of all the person's assets and/or the death penalty, you hire hitmen to kill journalists that sneak in to take photos, you threaten local towns with forced sterilisation should they blab that something's filming in their town, and then then you say nothing about the movie at all and, in fact, even go so far as to deny you're making it.
Avatar. Another great example. All that hype about it being the most expensive movie ever made, the genius of the special effects, and so on. James Cameron should have denied he ever intended to make a movie after Titanic and then zzzzzzzzaaaaaaappp, Avatar - Realease Date - 1 week from now!
That's the real way to market. None of this preview/trailer/hype bull gak. You say nothing, you deny everything, and you leave everyone guessing as to what the hell you're doing until you physically are no longer able to.
Think of just how much money Avatar and Iron Man 2 could have made if we'd never known they existed until they were already in theatres? Hundreds more. Possibly even hundreds of billions more. Why is GW the only one who gets this?
To tell the truth, I have never really cared for that in anime. I don't know why, but I have always thought that the giant headlights anime girls display were unneccesary.
I've never feared Death or Dying. I've only feared never Trying.
To tell the truth, I have never really cared for that in anime. I don't know why, but I have always thought that the giant headlights anime girls display were unneccesary.
It wouldn't be so bad if the vast majority of anime wasn't hilariously sexist.
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To tell the truth, I have never really cared for that in anime. I don't know why, but I have always thought that the giant headlights anime girls display were unneccesary.
It wouldn't be so bad if the vast majority of anime wasn't hilariously sexist.
Too true. Too true. Another reason I like FMA. Only one character is unneccesarily "sultry", and thats kinda needed when she's the sin Lust.
I've never feared Death or Dying. I've only feared never Trying.
To tell the truth, I have never really cared for that in anime. I don't know why, but I have always thought that the giant headlights anime girls display were unneccesary.
It wouldn't be so bad if the vast majority of anime wasn't hilariously sexist.
Too true. Too true. Another reason I like FMA. Only one character is unneccesarily "sultry", and thats kinda needed when she's the sin Lust.
Yeah, the first FMA anime was nice. The only useless girls fawning over the male characters and being "protected" were rose and winry, and both of them had counterpoints in lust and hawkeye. The new series doesn't do so well in this regard, but it's still not bad. It would be nice if any of the shonen jump series weren't just male power fantasies with absolutely useless female "support" casts though.
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BaronIveagh wrote:Screaming something sucks is almost as good as putting breasts on it.
Edit: Shuma, watch Sekirei, the anime I got the image from earlier. The guy in the series is the only one who doesn't have any powers at all.
Capability doesn't denote sexism or lack of. The female characters in naruto are all accomplished ninjas, that doesn't prevent them from being vulnerable little sets of boobs that the main characters have to "protect". The female characters in bleach all have wacky ghost powers and it's not like they ever do anything except occasionally get disrobed. One piece follows the same formula, as does the majority of male-lead anime.
Having never seen the series that pictures from though, all I can really wonder is whether she's 14 with those things.
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Batman Gotham Knight is a rather good package, despite different studios and styles being used. The "Odd One Out" and "Home Coming" segments from Halo Legends are also great.
BrookM wrote:Batman Gotham Knight is a rather good package, despite different studios and styles being used. The "Odd One Out" and "Home Coming" segments from Halo Legends are also great.
I especially liked the part where batman punched a bullet out of the air in gotham knight. That said, the segment with the children's stories and the segment about pain were phenomenal.
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BaronIveagh wrote:Screaming something sucks is almost as good as putting breasts on it.
Edit: Shuma, watch Sekirei, the anime I got the image from earlier. The guy in the series is the only one who doesn't have any powers at all.
Capability doesn't denote sexism or lack of. The female characters in naruto are all accomplished ninjas, that doesn't prevent them from being vulnerable little sets of boobs that the main characters have to "protect". The female characters in bleach all have wacky ghost powers and it's not like they ever do anything except occasionally get disrobed. One piece follows the same formula, as does the majority of male-lead anime.
Having never seen the series that pictures from though, all I can really wonder is whether she's 14 with those things.
Point, and I refuse to watch Naruto.
Hmm.... Looking at Sekirei, the female cast very rarely gets 'rescued' (in the manga they do way more rescuing then getting rescued) There are two points where that could be argued that he does save them in some manner. The series does absolutely ooze fanservice, however. Mutsubi, the more or less main female character in the picture above, is a super strong invulnerable type, who tends to forget her clothes are neither, having been raised in a laboratory and had to be taught was 'modesty' was. She's still working on it...
It's pointed out in the manga but not in the anime that if the male main character is killed, they 'lose' the game, so that could be the sexist point. The relationship between the women and the men is a little ODD however...
I hate it when I'm the golden snitch and everyone else is a super powered engine of destruction motivated to kill me or die themselves...
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Fate is in heaven, armor is on the chest, accomplishment is in the feet. - Nagao Kagetora
ShumaGorath wrote:
It wouldn't be so bad if the vast majority of anime wasn't hilariously sexist.
Anime doesn't strike as that much more sexist than the media in general (which I'll admit, isn't saying much as the media is horribly sexist for the most part). It is annoying though.
If we're talking counterexamples though, Serei no Moribitio comes to mind instantly. It's not only just awesome in general, it manages to have one of the best female leads I've seen in a series.
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I can't say I've sen that one but I'll check it out.
Slayers gets my vote for the anti-sexist one though. Lina makes it absolutely clear who the protagonist of the series is (by destroying an entire village), and Gourry is very clearly the heroic moron.
Fate is in heaven, armor is on the chest, accomplishment is in the feet. - Nagao Kagetora
BaronIveagh wrote:I can't say I've sen that one but I'll check it out.
Slayers gets my vote for the anti-sexist one though. Lina makes it absolutely clear who the protagonist of the series is (by destroying an entire village), and Gourry is very clearly the heroic moron.
EDIT: (While I've not seen that, from your description I'm not really convinced).
Except I can't say that "Counts". On it's own it might not mean much, but as a part of a bigger pattern in media only having [heroic/component/intelligent/powerful] females when the equivalent male cast members are [cowardly/incompetent/stupid/powerless] just serves to send the message "Yeah a woman can do okay!!....... If a real man isn't around." Being portrayed favorably to some kind of useless bum doesn't mean much Being portrayed favorably or equally to a male or males that are portrayed as generally competent, intelligent or otherwise useful means a lot more in a male-dominated culture.
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ShumaGorath wrote:Yeah, the first FMA anime was nice. The only useless girls fawning over the male characters and being "protected" were rose and winry, and both of them had counterpoints in lust and hawkeye. The new series doesn't do so well in this regard, but it's still not bad. It would be nice if any of the shonen jump series weren't just male power fantasies with absolutely useless female "support" casts though.
The newer FMA is just a load of crap, honestly. I've heard that it is more like the manga, but still. They did the animation to Brotherhood poorly compared to the original. I wouldn't say Winry is useless, but I will admit that she doesn't do very much other than repair his arm and leg a few times.
I've never feared Death or Dying. I've only feared never Trying.
BaronIveagh wrote:I can't say I've sen that one but I'll check it out.
Slayers gets my vote for the anti-sexist one though. Lina makes it absolutely clear who the protagonist of the series is (by destroying an entire village), and Gourry is very clearly the heroic moron.
EDIT: (While I've not seen that, from your description I'm not really convinced).
Except I can't say that "Counts". On it's own it might not mean much, but as a part of a bigger pattern in media only having [heroic/component/intelligent/powerful] females when the equivalent male cast members are [cowardly/incompetent/stupid/powerless] just serves to send the message "Yeah a woman can do okay!!....... If a real man isn't around." Being portrayed favorably to some kind of useless bum doesn't mean much Being portrayed favorably or equally to male or males that are portrayed as generally competent, intelligent or otherwise useful means a lot more in a male-dominated culture.
...hmm... no, other then Gourry most of the male cast is fairly sharp (in the case of Zelgadis, a literal statement) and the majority of her foes are men, who have varying degrees of competence. (We're leaving out a dark god or several, but...)
Note: in anything that takes place 'before' Lina meets Gourry, Lina's first sidekick is Naga (who's not as dumb as Gourry, but is very much not a sharpest blade in the scabbard either). How these two parted ways is something of a 'noodle incedent' among the fanbase.
However, those are her skull adorned breasts we see bouncing in some of the videos above, and is dressed down by Lina in their first meeting due to her clothing. "The 'evil sorceress' look went out of style a few centuries back..."
I'd recommend watching it (TV series first, even though it's out of order chronologically, the movies need the TV series to make sense). I think you'll see my point.
Edit: found the season 1-2 dubs on youtube. they're the dubs, with Lisa Ortiz as Lina, so gird your ears and pray that you find the subtitles sometime with Megumi Hayashibara.
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Fate is in heaven, armor is on the chest, accomplishment is in the feet. - Nagao Kagetora
Ghost in the Shell- SAC, and SAC Second gig are pretty awesome. Sadly, alot of people cant follow the story line since theyre used to simple plot formats that include a 5 minute section of 'Previously on ....' that reminds them whats going on.
I'll also point out the OP is like 14, so likely doesnt have much knowledge of what he hates or what the word even really means.
Like Luna mentioned, anime is just a medium of communication. Some stories are better told in that medium than others. Although the kid in me would love and updated version of Macross/Robotech done live action CGI style in the hands of someone like JJ Abrams (and minus Minmei).
I thoroughly enjoyed Appleseed (the anime crossed with CGI flick). The animation was well done and the CGI was well done as well. Not Squaresoft gorgeous (to this day NOTHING holds a candle to the eyegasm that is the CGI in FF13, not even Avatar) but looked good nonetheless.
--The whole concept of government granted and government regulated 'permits' and the accompanying government mandate for government approved firearms 'training' prior to being blessed by government with the privilege to carry arms in a government approved and regulated manner, flies directly in the face of the fundamental right to keep and bear arms.
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government.”
Appleseed is in the same 'reality' as Ghost in the Shell, just farther in the future. Arimaki did a good job with both of the Appleseed flicks though.
The budget differences between anime and the big budget video games is where you're going to see the differences in CGI though.
Give Kamiyama(recent Ghost in the shell director) or Arimaki a similar budget to work with as the games companies have and Im sure they could wow us with whats possible
True. Though Square really seems to know no limits. I was wowed by FFX and FFX-2 CGI (never did play 11 or 12 but I think those were online so not even sure they had cgi) but FF13 had me hurrying through the zones and boss fights just to see the next cutscene.
I would have probably nerdgasmed in my pants had I been playing it on a HD monitor larger than 20" (my computer monitor is the only HD output device I have).
--The whole concept of government granted and government regulated 'permits' and the accompanying government mandate for government approved firearms 'training' prior to being blessed by government with the privilege to carry arms in a government approved and regulated manner, flies directly in the face of the fundamental right to keep and bear arms.
“The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government.”
lol Yeah, a freind of mine hits a save point before all the cool CG scenes. Once he gets them all I go watch on his Nerdmatron LED HD rig. Square does seem to keep redefining the limits- but then look at the stuff like Avatar. The CGI/reality lines are getting pretty blurry these days- which is cool as it opens the doors for so many stories that are just waiting to be told in a way more true to thier intent.
-to many points to bother to count.
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