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I like those sci-fi monster movies. who doesnt love b-movies. But hey. as long as wrestly is only on for an hour a so a week and eureka and warehouse 13 is still on im ok. i just hope sci-fi doesnt go the way of g-4.
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mattyrm wrote:i like the idea of a woman with a lobster claw for a hand touching my nuts. :-)
wrestling is replacing the friday block, and that is being moved to tuesday. i am a huge fan of merlin so this distresses me.
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Lord-Loss wrote:Any manga/anime out there with a large background, cool plot and non-robot like characters?
Funnily enough, Pluto. It's a murder/mystery cop drama manga about someone that is killing the world's most sophisticated robots and almost all of the major protagonists are robots. But they aren't giant or anything.
Also check out Ikigami. It's a manga about a man that has to deliver death papers. In an alternate universe Japan there is a thing called National Wellfare. Entering grade school all children are immunized by the government but one in a thousand of the syringes has a nanocapsule that will cause the victim to die at a predetermined time and date between the ages of 18 and 24. It's really really good.
For the "What Measure is a Robot" trope, please refer to Armitage III, though it's not that great, it has some interesting plot twists. Best seen as the full OVA and not the cut down 'movie' since you miss a lot of stuff.
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ShumaGorath wrote:And unlike most anime it had character development and an ending.
Actually, it's more common for anime to have a clear ending then, say, American TV shows. Most US TV shows end on a season ending cliffhanger to try and get executives to bring the show back for another season.
And we have the Sci-Fi channel closing good shows in favor of making crap mockbusters.
It is the only channel I have ever heard of ditching it's highest rated shows to make utter garbage films.
And yes, I'm talking about MST3K.
Oddly enough what I said was still true. Most anime is not written with the ending in mind and it's rare indeed for one to feature character development of any sort.
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...UM....actually, if we're talking manga that gets made into anime, usually there is an ending in mind. Since manga tend to have endings due to the way that manga studios tend to work. (Example, pitching something as a 24 chapter story)
Even if that ending is a total mind screw like Evangelion or Key: the Metal Idol.
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BaronIveagh wrote:...UM....actually, if we're talking manga that gets made into anime, usually there is an ending in mind. Since manga tend to have endings due to the way that manga studios tend to work. (Example, pitching something as a 24 chapter story)
Even if that ending is a total mind screw like Evangelion or Key: the Metal Idol.
So how are the endings to naruto, bleach, and one piece coming along? Inuyasha? Fist of the north star and dragonball both started as manga and those only ended when the viewership grew up and had kids. How about all those gundams? The fact that you can even bring up evangelion (A show that ended because it got the axe, not because it was supposed to end) shows a bit of a selective bias in how you are choosing to defend this little facet of the genre.
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I like anime to a extent, but I then I just view it as a different style of cartoon (why should it matter where it came from?). It can be cliche, lots of fan service, and really annoying followers, but so does every other media out there, and as quite a few of the other forum goers have noted before that there is quite the collection of good anime out there.
Of course, my favorite is Gurren Lagann, which I'm surprised hasn't got that much attention.
BaronIveagh wrote:...UM....actually, if we're talking manga that gets made into anime, usually there is an ending in mind. Since manga tend to have endings due to the way that manga studios tend to work. (Example, pitching something as a 24 chapter story)
Even if that ending is a total mind screw like Evangelion or Key: the Metal Idol.
So how are the endings to naruto, bleach, and one piece coming along? Inuyasha? Fist of the north star and dragonball both started as manga and those only ended when the viewership grew up and had kids. How about all those gundams? The fact that you can even bring up evangelion (A show that ended because it got the axe, not because it was supposed to end) shows a bit of a selective bias in how you are choosing to defend this little facet of the genre.
Quite a few shows end and don't get a second or third season which makes it seem like it ended abruptly. DMC did this. Berserk definitely needs more episodes, etc.
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BaronIveagh wrote:...UM....actually, if we're talking manga that gets made into anime, usually there is an ending in mind. Since manga tend to have endings due to the way that manga studios tend to work. (Example, pitching something as a 24 chapter story)
Even if that ending is a total mind screw like Evangelion or Key: the Metal Idol.
So how are the endings to naruto, bleach, and one piece coming along? Inuyasha? Fist of the north star and dragonball both started as manga and those only ended when the viewership grew up and had kids. How about all those gundams? The fact that you can even bring up evangelion (A show that ended because it got the axe, not because it was supposed to end) shows a bit of a selective bias in how you are choosing to defend this little facet of the genre.
Quite a few shows end and don't get a second or third season which makes it seem like it ended abruptly. DMC did this. Berserk definitely needs more episodes, etc.
There is nothing more frustrating than a series that leaves you hangin'. Luckily, it hasn't really happened to me much. Most of the series I've watched have gotten to a proper conclusion usually in under about 30 episodes. On the other hand, I'm slowly losing hope for a Spice and Wolf season 3.
Daba wrote:The reason it's called Anime is it's short for Animation, and it's the sort of shortening that's often done in Japan (e.g. Persucom = Personal Computer = PC).
That part alone makes me snicker.
But animes are for the most part very serious albeit a bloody serious or a blood and guts serious. Just imagine "Saving Private Ryan" with cartoon characters and lazers minus the blood, then you get "GI Joe". Add the lazers, machine guns, blood, and more guts than an anatomically correct human body holds and you get an anime or even several.
The whole reason that this happens, as I was once told by an anime loving guy, is because of Japan's population. Look at America's population and you see diversity that can fill in any diverse roles a movie may need. The japanese population however is exactly that, japanese so they can't really make a diverse movie so they almost are forced to rely on animation to allow them to create a movie with more than one ethnic group in it.
So I think that it would almost be safe to say that anime is just overcompensation for the inherent rascism in the country of Japan that would be apparant to the rest of the world if they made movies with an all japanese cast.
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BaronIveagh wrote:...UM....actually, if we're talking manga that gets made into anime, usually there is an ending in mind. Since manga tend to have endings due to the way that manga studios tend to work. (Example, pitching something as a 24 chapter story)
Even if that ending is a total mind screw like Evangelion or Key: the Metal Idol.
So how are the endings to naruto, bleach, and one piece coming along? Inuyasha? Fist of the north star and dragonball both started as manga and those only ended when the viewership grew up and had kids. How about all those gundams? The fact that you can even bring up evangelion (A show that ended because it got the axe, not because it was supposed to end) shows a bit of a selective bias in how you are choosing to defend this little facet of the genre.
If I recall correctly, Evangelion (the TV series) ended as was written by the creator (who has some serious mental illnesses) however, no one understood the last two episodes due to a combination of highly experimental style and some parts being removed as too graphic by TV censors. (Rather like the last episode of Lost, the fanbase was outraged and still didn't fully understand what was going on) So the movies were produced. While EVA was on TV, it was tremendously popular, much to the astonishment of it's creators.
And I didn't state that all anime have a distinct ending. Some are open ended (Particularly Rumiko Takahashi's works, such as Inuyasha and Ranma 1/2, since she's always been in it for the money as opposed to as an art) Bleach had originally only been planned to run for two years as a manga, and unexpectedly took off. The author yielded to editorial pressure and thus, it has more or less rolled on past the ending planned (Ichigo getting his 'permit' as a Death God). Can't say anything about Naruto or One Piece, I've never read or watched either one. Only read some of Dragonball and never watched the series (not a big fan of Akira Toriyama, though his work on Chronotrigger was great) Gundam is like Star Trek. It dies for a while, and then someone comes up with a new version, that somehow sucks even harder then the previous one.
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halonachos wrote: So I think that it would almost be safe to say that anime is just overcompensation for the inherent rascism in the country of Japan that would be apparant to the rest of the world if they made movies with an all japanese cast.
The enormous industry that is Japanese cinema proves this statement blatantly false.
If the Japanese need an non-Japanese cast member, they're not afraid to hire one.
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LunaHound wrote:Sailor Moon :'D
And because im so bored of anime now not using proper Opening , they are mostly just bits and pieces cropped and pasted from normal episodes.
They're not all bad, I thought Eden of the East had a pretty nice opening even if it was pushing the artsy thing a bit a hard.
halonachos wrote:
So I think that it would almost be safe to say that anime is just overcompensation for the inherent rascism in the country of Japan that would be apparant to the rest of the world if they made movies with an all japanese cast.
The enormous industry that is Japanese cinema proves this statement blatantly false.
If the Japanese need an non-Japanese cast member, they're not afraid to hire one.
Japanese Cinema, bah, never heard of it. If you mean FF XIV then that's CGI, not real people.
Now, it's not that I don't dislike all japanese things; N64, PS2, PS3, and sushi are all alright with me. Its just that I have never in my life seen any non-anime/cgi movie made in Japan that features caucasians or black people. Just look at all of the Godzilla movies, those were made with guys in monster suits, micro machines, and Japanese people.
@Luna, I somehow doubt they worship caucasians and black people. To say that is to say that Canada worships America, it simply isn't true.
If I recall correctly, Evangelion (the TV series) ended as was written by the creator (who has some serious mental illnesses) however, no one understood the last two episodes due to a combination of highly experimental style and some parts being removed as too graphic by TV censors. (Rather like the last episode of Lost, the fanbase was outraged and still didn't fully understand what was going on) So the movies were produced. While EVA was on TV, it was tremendously popular, much to the astonishment of it's creators.
Nope, they ran out of budget due to using overly high frame count action sequences mid season. The writers never intended on using xerox paper sketches and background paintings (old ones) for the last two episodes. The ending was purely an artifact of poor budgeting. When reruns influenced high sell through on merch and DVDs (for far longer than the series was worth) then the go ahead was given to green light an animated movie ending. It was better than the actual ending but it wasn't exactly good or "as the writer intended" either.
They are now making a new 'remaster' version with shorter skirts and presumably an ending.
And I didn't state that all anime have a distinct ending.
And I didn't state that all didn't. Miracles.
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LunaHound wrote:halonacho , japanese culture pretty much worship Caucasian and Negroes , the only thing they actually dont worship are asians.
Caucasians yes. Blacks are treated more as stereotypes and oddities (the black population percentage in japan is very, very low). The Japanese have never been very good at avoiding genteel racism.
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And because im so bored of anime now not using proper Opening , they are mostly just bits and pieces cropped and pasted from normal episodes.
Strangely I now feel like the spirit of Walt Disney is calling to me. It tells me to get on a plane to Japan. Find the creators of the above, and harm them in new and interesting ways, all the while humming along to the tune of Steamboat Willy.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
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halonachos wrote:Is there money to be made as a caucasian in Japan then?
If you want to teach english. You're better off staying stateside as an actual career choice. Not a bad place to flub around for a year or two though if you speak the language.
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And because im so bored of anime now not using proper Opening , they are mostly just bits and pieces cropped and pasted from normal episodes.
Strangely I now feel like the spirit of Walt Disney is calling to me. It tells me to get on a plane to Japan. Find the creators of the above, and harm them in new and interesting ways, all the while humming along to the tune of Steamboat Willy.
Whatever man, I grew up watching Sailor Moon. Mind you, I was too young to know any better.....
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halonachos wrote: So I think that it would almost be safe to say that anime is just overcompensation for the inherent rascism in the country of Japan that would be apparant to the rest of the world if they made movies with an all japanese cast.
The enormous industry that is Japanese cinema proves this statement blatantly false.
If the Japanese need an non-Japanese cast member, they're not afraid to hire one.
Japanese Cinema, bah, never heard of it. If you mean FF XIV then that's CGI, not real people.
Now you're just being intentionally obtuse and argumentative.
How about all those Samurai historicals that come from Japan, or anything by Akira Kurasawa, or Godzilla, or a large part of the genre that is named(shockingly) J-horror?
And those are just the ones that make it to mass market America. Once you go online and see the stuff you can import, you'll see your extreme ignorance on the subject.
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halonachos wrote:
So I think that it would almost be safe to say that anime is just overcompensation for the inherent rascism in the country of Japan that would be apparant to the rest of the world if they made movies with an all japanese cast.
The enormous industry that is Japanese cinema proves this statement blatantly false.
If the Japanese need an non-Japanese cast member, they're not afraid to hire one.
Japanese Cinema, bah, never heard of it. If you mean FF XIV then that's CGI, not real people.
Now you're just being intentionally obtuse and argumentative. STFU or get out.
How about all those Samurai historicals that come from Japan, or anything by Akira Kurasawa, or Godzilla, or a large part of the genre that is named(shockingly) J-horror?
And those are just the ones that make it to mass market America. Once you go online and see the stuff you can import, you'll see your extreme ignorance on the subject.
There's definitely a breadth to Japanese cinema, though realistically the vast majority of Japanese films are low budget with poor acting and writing. It's not a mature industry.
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