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Albatross wrote:

Some does, some doesn't.
It's a bit like saying, 'Does music suck?'

No it isn't. It's nothing like that.

It's closer to 'does music from japan suck?'.

Platuan4th wrote:

halonachos wrote:I prefer my american cartoons and animations like... and mutha fethin' Thomas the Tank Engine.

Which isn't American.

George Carlin narrated it a couple of times, I would call it american. Seeing as though a work done by an english clergyman was narrated by someone who wasn't exactly the poster boy for clean living, it is hippocrasy and is therefor american.

But yes, anime does blow chunks and I blame america for that.

halonachos wrote:

Platuan4th wrote:

halonachos wrote:I prefer my american cartoons and animations like... and mutha fethin' Thomas the Tank Engine.

Which isn't American.

George Carlin narrated it a couple of times, I would call it american. Seeing as though a work done by an english clergyman was narrated by someone who wasn't exactly the poster boy for clean living, it is hippocrasy and is therefor american.

But yes, anime does blow chunks and I blame america for that.

Please explain how it's Americas fault.

ShumaGorath wrote:

halonachos wrote:

Platuan4th wrote:

halonachos wrote:I prefer my american cartoons and animations like... and mutha fethin' Thomas the Tank Engine.

Which isn't American.

George Carlin narrated it a couple of times, I would call it american. Seeing as though a work done by an english clergyman was narrated by someone who wasn't exactly the poster boy for clean living, it is hippocrasy and is therefor american.

But yes, anime does blow chunks and I blame america for that.

Please explain how it's Americas fault.

Domestic cartoons are by and large pieces of gak? You haven't made a decent cartoon in... 20 years?

ShumaGorath wrote:

Albatross wrote:

Some does, some doesn't.
It's a bit like saying, 'Does music suck?'

No it isn't. It's nothing like that.

It's closer to 'does music from japan suck?'.

Bingo!

I would add the qualification 'music in the Japanese style', but yeah.

Also, Thomas the Tank-Engine is British. It was narrated by Ringo Starr over here.

I think it may have been Postgate and Firmin, it's certainly in that style. Regardless, it's definitely British.

halonachos wrote:

Platuan4th wrote:

halonachos wrote:I prefer my american cartoons and animations like... and mutha fethin' Thomas the Tank Engine.

Which isn't American.

George Carlin narrated it a couple of times, I would call it american. Seeing as though a work done by an english clergyman was narrated by someone who wasn't exactly the poster boy for clean living, it is hippocrasy and is therefor american.

But yes, anime does blow chunks and I blame america for that.

You're an idiot. Just because a show host is re-dubbed for an American audience does not make it American. That's like saying that many US cartoons are foreign because the animation is cleaned up and finished by Korean animators.

"Thomas and Friends is a British children's television series, first broadcast on the ITV network in September 1984. Until season 7, which premiered in 2003, it was named Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends. This series was shot on 35mm film. The first 12 seasons were filmed at Shepperton Studios."

BaronIveagh wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

halonachos wrote:

Platuan4th wrote:

halonachos wrote:I prefer my american cartoons and animations like... and mutha fethin' Thomas the Tank Engine.

Which isn't American.

George Carlin narrated it a couple of times, I would call it american. Seeing as though a work done by an english clergyman was narrated by someone who wasn't exactly the poster boy for clean living, it is hippocrasy and is therefor american.

But yes, anime does blow chunks and I blame america for that.

Please explain how it's Americas fault.

Domestic cartoons are by and large pieces of gak? You haven't made a decent cartoon in... 20 years?

I thought avatar was pretty good (I love cartoons) and the mid 90's was a great time for american cartoons though admittedly that was quite some time ago. Shows like Rockos modern life and Ren and Stimpy were very well done. They've gone down hill after the deaths of cartoon cartoons and the saturday morning block being filled up with anime though. Japan helped to gut the american cartoon market and lost a lot of it's own quality in return.

I would also have to say that Dexter's Lab and Megas XLR were super fantastic.

And yes shuma, it is our fault. Had we never opened up the japanese isolationism, anime wouldn't have spread as it did, similar to how that tentacle thing they developed in the 19th century wouldn't of spread as well.

Johnny Bravo for the win.

Albatross wrote:

WARBOSS TZOO wrote:SUHN-TZOO SEZ:

LOTZ UF ANIMEZ IZ GAK.

BUT ON DA UDDER KLAW, LOTZ OF ERRYTING IS GAK.

DA BEST ANIMEZ IZ AZ GOOD AZ DA BEST ERRYTING ELZE.

Posting everything in 'ork-speak' + CAPS LOCK =

On DakkaDakka? I think it's epic win.

Wow. Just wow. A+ for blanket statements!

Anime is really more of a broad artistic style. The actual content and themes varies immensely. It really is just like saying, "music sucks."

I thought avatar was pretty good (I love cartoons)

hehe an American show done in an anime-style. Brilliant!

countchocula86 wrote:Wow. Just wow. A+ for blanket statements!

Anime is really more of a broad artistic style. The actual content and themes varies immensely. It really is just like saying, "music sucks."

I thought avatar was pretty good (I love cartoons)

hehe an American show done in an anime-style. Brilliant!

And unlike most anime it had character development and an ending.

The ork speak was definitely epic win.

And unlike most anime it had character development and an ending.

Thats like saying "and unlike most Western developed live action shows...."
But even more so, nearly all the anime ive ever watched have had concrete endings. For the most part, shows are 1 season (13 episodes), 2 seasons (26 episodes), or 4 seasons/full year (52 episodes) which move to a solid ending. But really I digress.
These conversations always get dominated by hardcore anime nerds and people who grew up with Sailormoon and Dragon Ball Z and hated it.

By the by, and off topic, I loved Avatar, I hope the movie is half-way decent.

ShumaGorath wrote:Shows like Rockos modern life

QFT and Exalt!

ShumaGorath wrote:And unlike most anime it had character development and an ending.

Actually, it's more common for anime to have a clear ending then, say, American TV shows. Most US TV shows end on a season ending cliffhanger to try and get executives to bring the show back for another season.

And we have the Sci-Fi channel closing good shows in favor of making crap mockbusters.

It is the only channel I have ever heard of ditching it's highest rated shows to make utter garbage films.

And yes, I'm talking about MST3K.

BaronIveagh wrote:
It is the only channel I have ever heard of ditching it's highest rated shows to make utter garbage films.

How dare you mock ANIMAL NAME.

I can't see to find an anime that's similar to Elfen Lied with more then twenty something damn episodes.

I'm really getting into this blood and guts anime now.

Gantz.

Bastard!!! (*spoiler* Heart rippage outing occurs), Ninja Scroll (the movie, not the god awful series), Twilight of the Dark Master, Demon City Shinjuku, Kite (OAV), Mezzo (OAV), Angel Cop (hard to find), Black Lagoon (more violent then gory), Petshop of Horror (more cerebral), Akira gets an honorable mention here, certain sequences in X:1999 are fairly rough...

That's just off the top of my head.

Oh, and anything Hellsing, though the OVA is better.

Quite a few anime that I have seen end their story. Some will leave it open for a new story to be made and there will be questions but they don't HAVE to make another series/story arc. My favorite ending is at the end of Cowboy Bebop. Yeah it made me wanna throw my T.V. against the wall in anger but thats a testimate to how good it was. When a story is capable of getting any strong emotion from somebody its got merit to me.

BaronIveagh wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:And unlike most anime it had character development and an ending.

Actually, it's more common for anime to have a clear ending then, say, American TV shows. Most US TV shows end on a season ending cliffhanger to try and get executives to bring the show back for another season.

And we have the Sci-Fi channel closing good shows in favor of making crap mockbusters.

It is the only channel I have ever heard of ditching it's highest rated shows to make utter garbage films.

And yes, I'm talking about MST3K.

Dont forget FireFly.

Trigun had a definate ending. That was a pretty good anime, but don't go looking up videos of it online (AMV's stuff like that), It's an anime that you have to watch as a whole, not see parts of it.

Firefly had iffy ratings a lot of the time due to executive mismanagement of it.

MST3K was flat out Sci-Fi's highest rated show on the air. They felt it was too expensive to make and canned it.

Anime TV shows: So stupid.
Anime Movies: It depends. Castle in the sky was pretty cool.

And I see no difference between anime and manga. sorry.

*Facepalm*

Manga is the comic... you know on paper.

And you Just labelled the vast majority of a genre stupid.

Does it really matter what you call it? I mean, I for one am not going to burst into tears becuase someone got anime and manga mixed up.

It doesn't matter what you call it, but it's the same as calling a comic a cartoon and vice versa.

I generally refer to anime as cartoons anyway.

Anime are cartoons. Just a subsect of it. ...Isn't it?

The reason it's called Anime is it's short for Animation, and it's the sort of shortening that's often done in Japan (e.g. Persucom = Personal Computer = PC).

So Cartoons are a subsect of Anime rather than the other way around.

Cartoons can be non animated, so technically comic and cartoon (and manga and cartoon) are more exchangeable than the words anime and manga are.

actually i read that sci-fi channel is ditching some of it's programming to acquire WWE wrestling. so along with the crappy monster movie of the week, that is its new cash cow.