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Just watched the first episode of Elfen Lied and It's pretty awesome.

How can there be so much blood and b00bs in one episode?

Soladrin wrote:Well, I haven't even heard Bleach dubs, but I avoid Dubs unless I can't find any subbed version.

The only good dub is DBZ, because otherwise we wouldn't have some of those beauties on youtube... you know what I'm talking about.

Watch Bacanno dubbed. It's FAR better with english language accents. It's set in 30's gangland america, and without the accents half the impact of the lines are gone.

ShumaGorath wrote:

Soladrin wrote:Well, I haven't even heard Bleach dubs, but I avoid Dubs unless I can't find any subbed version.

The only good dub is DBZ, because otherwise we wouldn't have some of those beauties on youtube... you know what I'm talking about.

Watch Bacanno dubbed. It's FAR better with english language accents. It's set in 30's gangland america, and without the accents half the impact of the lines are gone.

Never heard of that series TBH. I'll look it up, thanks for the heads up mate.

Soladrin wrote:

Karon wrote:I'm going to find time to start watching Bleach again from the start. I really liked that show.

I've already watched every episode of Naruto in english already, so I suppose its time for a change.

HERETIC.

Sorry, I just can't stand Dub's.

They aren't all bad. Maybe I'm just used to 'em, though. Cowboy Bebop had some awesome voice work, and I personally preferred Trigun in English than in Japanese (Vash had a really goofy voice in Japanese IMO). And most Funimation stuff is well-done, though you'll start to notice that the same voice actors seem to be in every single series produced by them.

Only dub I couldn't stand was the Ouran High School Host Club one. Vic Mignogna was a poor choice for Tamaki, and I really hated that they picked two very different voices for Hikaru and Kaoru - at least in the Japanese version, when the two of them spoke at the same time, you couldn't tell that there was a difference, which was a huge plot point throughout the series.

The dub of Bebop was superior to the sub. The FMA dub was pretty good as is the one for Brotherhood. Bleach is ok, though i stopped watching that show a while ago. I'm not all that into anime that goes on forever.

Soladrin wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Soladrin wrote:Well, I haven't even heard Bleach dubs, but I avoid Dubs unless I can't find any subbed version.

The only good dub is DBZ, because otherwise we wouldn't have some of those beauties on youtube... you know what I'm talking about.

Watch Bacanno dubbed. It's FAR better with english language accents. It's set in 30's gangland america, and without the accents half the impact of the lines are gone.

Never heard of that series TBH. I'll look it up, thanks for the heads up mate.

It won a couple of awards, it's one of the best anime I've seen and I've seen many. I caught it on hulu, but I think it's all on funimations site now.

ShumaGorath wrote:

Soladrin wrote:

Karon wrote:I'm going to find time to start watching Bleach again from the start. I really liked that show.

I've already watched every episode of Naruto in english already, so I suppose its time for a change.

HERETIC.

Sorry, I just can't stand Dub's.

The bleach dubs aren't bad. The naruto ones are miserable. Some series do much better with them (Baccanno for instance) but yeah, dubbed naruto is cringe worthy. His voice is like a weapon.

Most of the voice actors are the same, amusingly enough.

Wow, this thread became an anime love-in.

Didn't see that coming.

... no, if it was an anime love-in, I'd be streaming ogenki clinic. And the mods would probably be banning me shortly thereafter.

Chongara wrote:Could it be that you (along with a great deal many others) equate "Anime" with long-running Shounen fighting shows such as "Bleach", "Dragonball Z" and "Naruto"? They certainly enjoy an almost insane level of popularity and so tend to be what people not explicitly looking for other types of anime tend to form their opinions off of. However, it is still just one (fairly narrow) genre in a rather diverse media. Which isn't to really bash them either, I can certainly understand the appeal and when I'm in the right mood me and my inner 14 year old can get quite the kick out of them.

No, I have a number of friends who are in to anime, and while I do hate things like BDZ for the sheer mindnumbing padding that they put into that show, I dislike anime because of the animation style. Too many camera pans and zooms across still frames masquerading as actual animation for my liking. I know things have evolved, especially with the way computers can help them, but it doesn't make me enjoy the genre any more.

I do own Nedesco, which I put up with the animation because I like the story, and Full Metal Panic! is a good example of when they get over the standard anime animation style and start moving things besides the camera.

I also can stand the snobbery that comes with anime. "Oh I only ever watch it in the original Japanese" - no, feth you and your original Japanese. Who gives a feth what language it is in. Yes, older things had translation problems (Gundam is a good example - no adjectives for 'Enemy' AHHHHH!!), but I think we're past that. The only thing I will watch in Japanese is Transformers: Headmasters and that's only because the Dub is so bad it's almost a self-parody (anyone who's watched it will know what I'm speaking of).

Chongara wrote:It's certainly very possible you don't. However I've found it's fairly common in the cases where someone says "I hate anime but [Cowboy Bebop/Ghost in the Shell] was pretty good"

Not 'pretty good'. The 'greatest expression of narrative, style, visuals and music known the man'. Subtle difference.

ShumaGorath wrote:

Soladrin wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Soladrin wrote:Well, I haven't even heard Bleach dubs, but I avoid Dubs unless I can't find any subbed version.

The only good dub is DBZ, because otherwise we wouldn't have some of those beauties on youtube... you know what I'm talking about.

Watch Bacanno dubbed. It's FAR better with english language accents. It's set in 30's gangland america, and without the accents half the impact of the lines are gone.

Never heard of that series TBH. I'll look it up, thanks for the heads up mate.

It won a couple of awards, it's one of the best anime I've seen and I've seen many. I caught it on hulu, but I think it's all on funimations site now.

Baccano is awesome and it's defiantly in my top 10 at least. It's got it's weak points and it's certainly not the most substantive series I've ever seen. However, the style and presentation are so great it doesn't really matter.

Too many camera pans and zooms across still frames masquerading as actual animation for my liking.

As I understand it these shortcuts are usually a result of budget constraints. Series with a bigger budget behind them, or that just plain don't need to a lot of action don't run into those issues as much.

Wait, a bit confused. Dubbed is when someone voices the character in english, or a different voice actor does it, yes?

Because honestly, the ones I saw in TV are pretty good voiced.

Dubbed is when the English voice actor replaces the Japanese voice actor

Thought so.

I think y'alls standards are too high then, because the bleach voice actors sound fine to me.

H.B.M.C. wrote:I also can stand the snobbery that comes with anime. "Oh I only ever watch it in the original Japanese" - no, feth you and your original Japanese. Who gives a feth what language it is in. Yes, older things had translation problems (Gundam is a good example - no adjectives for 'Enemy' AHHHHH!!), but I think we're past that. The only thing I will watch in Japanese is Transformers: Headmasters and that's only because the Dub is so bad it's almost a self-parody (anyone who's watched it will know what I'm speaking of).

Thank you! It really gets on my nerves when people assume they're better than me because I prefer English dub. Sure, you can enjoy hearing it in its native language, but darn it, I can watch the show and not have to fething read.

(And I'm not bashing reading in general. Just saying - if I want to watch something, I want to watch it, not read it)

Confused about Elfien Lied... So there are only thirteen episodes but a seperate series which has less blood and stuff?

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Lord-Loss wrote:less blood and stuff bewbs?
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It's anime...bewbs are multiplied by 3 and each person has 9 Gallons of blood in their system...

Sanctjud wrote:

Lord-Loss wrote:less blood and stuff bewbs?
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It's anime...bewbs are multiplied by 3 and each person has 9 Gallons of blood in their system...

9 gallons under pressure. ... which could explain all the nose bleeds and WHY the boobs are so big...

Finished watching Elfen Lied, pretty awesome, I like the whole Idea of It with the Disclonius. I'd love another anime based on that universe.. but kind of more then 13 episodes.

I need a new anime with a good background, good plot and all the rest of that crap.

H.B.M.C. wrote:The only thing I will watch in Japanese is Transformers: Headmasters and that's only because the Dub is so bad it's almost a self-parody (anyone who's watched it will know what I'm speaking of).

There's rumours of it(and the other Japanese Seasons) being released by Shout! Factory in America with new brand new Dubbing.

Karon wrote:Thought so.

I think y'alls standards are too high then, because the bleach voice actors sound fine to me.

Same here, only reason I watch with subtitles is because I wanted to get farther in the story, darn it.


Naruto's English dub was just god aweful though.

I personally don't get anime, DBZ was completely lost to me while all of my friends were entranced by it. I prefer my american cartoons and animations like "The Land Before Time", Looney Toons, Johnny Bravo, Bobby's World, and mutha fethin' Thomas the Tank Engine.

I mean, growing up I always associated cartoons with being funny. I never imagined them to be animated soap operas for kids. Half of those things can make the writers for "Days of Our Lives" jealous.

It also doesn't help that my anime fan cousin destroyed my laptop by downloading every single Naruto episode. I tried watching several and they all left bad tastes in my mouth.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Chongara wrote:It's certainly very possible you don't. However I've found it's fairly common in the cases where someone says "I hate anime but [Cowboy Bebop/Ghost in the Shell] was pretty good"

Not 'pretty good'. The 'greatest expression of narrative, style, visuals and music known the man'. Subtle difference.

At least with the music on those two it kind of helps that the same composer, Yoko Kanno, did the scores for both shows. I have snapped up as many of the soundtracks I could find for them and listen to them on a regular basis.

Oh I know Yoko Kanno. Believe me I spent a long time hunting down the CBBB tracks. And a friend of mine has the GITS soundtrack.

They were very good.

Yoko Kanno's good, although I'd place him second to Nobuo Uematsu.

Alex Kolodotschko wrote:Some does, some doesn't.
It's a bit like saying, 'Does music suck?'

I agree but i think it gets kind of tedious

Some does, some doesn't.
It's a bit like saying, 'Does music suck?'

No it isn't. It's nothing like that.

Alot of it sucks, but some is awesome. Im not a massive manga fanboy, but i did kinda like DBZ. The cartoons had too much standing around doing nothing, but i liked the comics.

Oh and i own the first 6 of "Vagabond" i thought they were awesome.

99% of it is a little out there for my tastes i must admit.

Ketara wrote:Yoko Kanno's good, although I'd place him second to Nobuo Uematsu.

AMEN. *stats playing Crystal of the Wind on his ipod...*

Quick second Yasunori Mitsuda, but I think he only does games.

halonachos wrote:I prefer my american cartoons and animations like... and mutha fethin' Thomas the Tank Engine.

Which isn't American.