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Soladrin wrote:
avantgarde wrote:
Soladrin wrote:To me the problem isn't that their slowly gaining on the native population, it's that that lots of them are actively working to turn us into an Islamic country. To bad those things go hand in hand...
That sounds like a personal problem. If you guys were a little quicker you could have recruited some of the better minorities: the short ones who do math good and don't like getting politically involved. It's like picking teams in gym you guys should have been picking the Japanese kid who's the pitcher on the little league team but instead you felt bad and picked the weird Lebanese kid who's never played dodgeball. So now your team sucks and it's your own fault.
You got to be in it to win it, son.

Wait wait wait.... it's my personal fault they got in here? That's a good one. This ball started rolling before I was born, or of any age to be able to comprehend it.
To be frank I really think it is European's fault Muslims are trying to take over their society. By passing laws banning minarets and burqas you're actively encouraging Muslims to become politically involved in order to stop similar laws from being passed. If you don't want Muslims in charge, instead of picking at the peripheral problems, it would be simpler to stealthy disenfranchise Muslims entirely so they can't elect/pass their own officials or laws.

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ShumaGorath wrote:
mattyrm wrote:Shuma, the US and the UK are very similar. I know you like to wind people up, but do you actually believe that the US is so much better?

The economy?!

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124753066246235811.html

Declining native populations?

Racial Xenophobia?!?!

I know your just trying to "needle" me mate, so ill not bother going into one about it.. but seriously.. think before you type eh?



I never said anything about my feelings concerning the u.s. You asked me about the UK and I answered. You use your muslim population as a crutch without actually paying attention to logic or statistics we use our latino population for the same. Remember the Arizona thread? I'm not needling, I'm telling you to check your head and work to fix your country like I do with mine.


What exactly do you do to 'fix your country'?
I'm genuinely interested to find out what it is that gives you the right to consider yourself superior in this regard to a person who has been sent out to the Middle-east to fight islamic terrorists in their own back-yard several times, been shot at and seen his friends shot at, injured and killed? Because the person you are trading insults with, and whose country you are insulting has done just that. And I am grateful for him and others like him, whether British, American, Canadian, Australian or Dutch (hope I didn't leave anyone out!) - I believe they are risking their lives to keep my country safe. As I far as I can tell, all you've done to 'fix' your country is bitch about it (and mine, for that matter) on the internet.

So please - examples?

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 purplefood wrote:
I find myself agreeing with Albatross far too often these days...

I almost always agree with Albatross, I can't see why anyone wouldn't.


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Okay, so the male version of "Cougar" is now officially "Albatross".
 
   
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Albatross wrote:And I am grateful for him and others like him, whether British, American, Canadian, Australian or Dutch (hope I didn't leave anyone out!)...



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 Cheesecat wrote:
 purplefood wrote:
I find myself agreeing with Albatross far too often these days...

I almost always agree with Albatross, I can't see why anyone wouldn't.


 Crazy_Carnifex wrote:

Okay, so the male version of "Cougar" is now officially "Albatross".
 
   
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Gwar! wrote:And Scottish. They hate Brittan, remember? Calling a Scotsman a Brit is like calling a Canadian Uzbekistani.

Except by calling a Canadian Uzbekistani you have a slight chance of being correct, thanks to the kind of immigration we get around here!

As to the actual topic:

I am against drawing pictures of Muhammad. I get pretty cheesed when people make fun of my religion, and deliberately contradict some of the "do's and do-not's" of my faith right in front of my face. It's aggravating. I can see why Muslims, whether they be extremists or otherwise, would get angry at this display of mockery.

I know some Muslims, none of who practice to the extent of extremism. They're all relatively peaceful, and don't threaten to nuke my house because I don't belong to their faith, and my mother and sisters don't cover their faces with veils.

In general, most religious people of this type don't get offended if you don't follow their own beliefs and moral codes, and will leave you well enough alone. However, just like any reasonable person, they DO get angry when you attack their beliefs. I think there's a fine line here, and if you're going to be shoving an act of defiance into someone's face then you should be prepared for things like this.


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This is quite a thread. My personal opinion regarding religion is that organized religion has led to the most problems in history.

I think drawing the prophet Muhammed is tasteless, but it is free speech. Thought police make it illegal. Freedom of speech isn't for nice speech, it's for the most vile and heinous speech. There is no right against being offended.

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Nightwatch wrote:
I am against drawing pictures of Muhammad. I get pretty cheesed when people make fun of my religion, and deliberately contradict some of the "do's and do-not's" of my faith right in front of my face. It's aggravating. I can see why Muslims, whether they be extremists or otherwise, would get angry at this display of mockery.

I know some Muslims, none of who practice to the extent of extremism. They're all relatively peaceful, and don't threaten to nuke my house because I don't belong to their faith, and my mother and sisters don't cover their faces with veils.

In general, most religious people of this type don't get offended if you don't follow their own beliefs and moral codes, and will leave you well enough alone. However, just like any reasonable person, they DO get angry when you attack their beliefs. I think there's a fine line here, and if you're going to be shoving an act of defiance into someone's face then you should be prepared for things like this.

QFT.

Really all that group was about was trying to piss off a major islamic group. They suceeded. No shock there. Religous groups get offended when you make fun of them. This sort of behavior got Father Ted yanked after complaints by the Knights of Columbus in my province about 5-10 years ago...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmfLS1hWO94
   
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Stormrider wrote:This is quite a thread. My personal opinion regarding religion is that organized religion has led to the most problems in history.

I think drawing the prophet Muhammed is tasteless, but it is free speech. Thought police make it illegal. Freedom of speech isn't for nice speech, it's for the most vile and heinous speech. There is no right against being offended.


Religion is also the most worthwhile thing to be fighting wars about, all in all, though it could probably be better sorted out by a chat, some tea, and crumpets. And waffles for the Americans.

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Manchu wrote: This is simply a self-fulfilling prophecy. Everyone says, "it won't change so why should I bother to try?" and then it doesn't change so people feel validated in their bad behavior.

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Nightwatch wrote:
Stormrider wrote:This is quite a thread. My personal opinion regarding religion is that organized religion has led to the most problems in history.

I think drawing the prophet Muhammed is tasteless, but it is free speech. Thought police make it illegal. Freedom of speech isn't for nice speech, it's for the most vile and heinous speech. There is no right against being offended.


Religion is also the most worthwhile thing to be fighting wars about, all in all, though it could probably be better sorted out by a chat, some tea, and crumpets. And waffles for the Americans.


Mmmm.... waffles

In all reality though, the Original Qu'ran was written in a dead alphabet that the average Muslim can't read. So they rely on their Imam's to tell the truth, if the Imam is a radical, he lies about what is in the Qu'ran and makes his flock angry with the "Infidel", even though that is not what the book was written about. It preaches religious tolerance and the Five Pillars of Islam. Not binding women from head to toe and blowing yourself up for imaginary virgins in heaven. It's sad to see so many people in the world angry at people they don't even get the true story about.

So I should have clarified my post, Bastardised religion is one of the greatest tragedies of human history.

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Stormrider wrote:This is quite a thread. My personal opinion regarding religion is that organized religion has led to the most problems in history.


Nah, you're thinking humanity.

When you break it down, humans are the problem. Not the religions. The religions are fine, just not the people behind them.

:edit: Just saw your most recent post. I'd agree.

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Vladsimpaler wrote:
Stormrider wrote:This is quite a thread. My personal opinion regarding religion is that organized religion has led to the most problems in history.


Nah, you're thinking humanity.

When you break it down, humans are the problem. Not the religions. The religions are fine, just not the people behind them.

:edit: Just saw your most recent post. I'd agree.


When you really isolate religion from any kind of bias, all of them are beautiful in their own way.

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I think the group has been removed, as I when I follow the link, it takes me to the homepage...

   
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Stormrider wrote:It preaches religious tolerance and the Five Pillars of Islam.


The Five Pillars of Islam: yes.

Religious tolerance: sort of. It can be thought of in that way, but its far from cut and dry, and coming away with a message exclusively grounded in religious tolerance requires a good bit of cherry picking. However, the Qu'ran is certainly not unique in that regard.

Stormrider wrote:
Not binding women from head to toe and blowing yourself up for imaginary virgins in heaven.


Yeah, both of those require some judicious interpretive bias.

It's sad to see so many people in the world angry at people they don't even get the true story about.

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There’s a whole world out there, full of fascinating and diverse people. Going out and meeting people with different views on the world can be really rewarding, if sometimes challenging experience.

One of the great things of the last fifty years is how easy it has become to go out and meet different people, to experience different world views. But, so many people don’t take that experience at all, instead they focus on stupid headbutting contests over completely trivial issues, like whether pictures that don’t do anything but offend people should be drawn or banned*.

We could be learning about each other and using that to expand our own world views, but instead we focus on this crap. Ultimately it’s all a bit sad.


Soladrin wrote:Well, the legit way, getting into politics and such. Rotterdam's new Mayor for example is Islamic.


Given his policies, is that really representative of Islam taking a position, or an Islamic dude coming into a position of power?





*The answer by the way, is that the pictures shouldn’t be banned because they don’t do anything but offend, but that almost all of them shouldn’t be drawn as they don’t do anything but offend. This is the only solution, but unfortunately it would require reasoned judgement and restraint from all parties.

“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”

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sebster wrote:There’s a whole world out there, full of fascinating and diverse people. Going out and meeting people with different views on the world can be really rewarding, if sometimes challenging experience.

One of the great things of the last fifty years is how easy it has become to go out and meet different people, to experience different world views. But, so many people don’t take that experience at all, instead they focus on stupid headbutting contests over completely trivial issues, like whether pictures that don’t do anything but offend people should be drawn or banned*.

We could be learning about each other and using that to expand our own world views, but instead we focus on this crap. Ultimately it’s all a bit sad.


Soladrin wrote:Well, the legit way, getting into politics and such. Rotterdam's new Mayor for example is Islamic.


Given his policies, is that really representative of Islam taking a position, or an Islamic dude coming into a position of power?





*The answer by the way, is that the pictures shouldn’t be banned because they don’t do anything but offend, but that almost all of them shouldn’t be drawn as they don’t do anything but offend. This is the only solution, but unfortunately it would require reasoned judgement and restraint from all parties.


I can't but agree. There is so much crap in the media, all they do is report the negative news, if it is positive, they will just glace over it and go: "Eh, *insert disease here* has been cured, let's get the plane crash story ready".

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Stormrider wrote:

In all reality though, the Original Qu'ran was written in a dead alphabet that the average Muslim can't read.


Some slight corrections here. The original Qu'ran was written in what is the basis today for Modern Standard Arabic, which any Arab with a grade school education should be able read. I'll admit that there's a lot of nuance to Arabic that could slip by your average reader, but still the same language. Translations are also available in most major languages, including Urdu, the national language of Pakistan.


Stormrider wrote: So they rely on their Imam's to tell the truth, if the Imam is a radical, he lies about what is in the Qu'ran and makes his flock angry with the "Infidel", even though that is not what the book was written about. It preaches religious tolerance and the Five Pillars of Islam.


Again, slight clarifications. The average Muslims outside of theocracies isn't any more religious than your average citizen elsewhere and certainly isn't a robot to be programmed by an imam. He's a citizen trying to make a life for his family in the best way he knows how, and the religious nuts getting the attention are few and far between. He touches his head to the ground five times a day because that's his culture more than out of any particular religious fervor.

More than likely the radical Imams aren't lying. Like every other religion there are some fuzzy parts to the Qu'ran, mostly stemming from the Doctrine of Abrogation. It says in the Qu'ran that the later verses are the correct ones and overrule anything written before, but it's not always easy to tell the more peaceful Meccan suras from the later and more judgmental Medinan ones. He's not lying, he's twisting the truth to suit what he wants to preach. Since it's hard to know exactly when some verses were written, who knows? He could be right.


Stormrider wrote:Bastardised religion is one of the greatest tragedies of human history.


I couldn't agree more.
   
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Gwar! wrote:Calling a Scotsman a Brit is like calling a Canadian Uzbekistani.


What is the difference though?
   
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Gwar! wrote:And Scottish. They hate Brittan, remember? Calling a Scotsman a Brit is like calling a Canadian Uzbekistani.


Where do you get that idea? The average Scot might likely find being called English offensive, though what a complement eh!
However they generally dont have problems being called British, excepting some SNP hardliners. Feth those, they are about as bigoted as the BNP.

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Stop hijacking ym thread with this Scotland talk.. i already made one for that!

We are arming Syrian rebels who support ISIS, who is fighting Iran, who is fighting Iraq who we also support against ISIS, while fighting Kurds who we support while they are fighting Syrian rebels.  
   
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Albatross wrote:
ShumaGorath wrote:
mattyrm wrote:Shuma, the US and the UK are very similar. I know you like to wind people up, but do you actually believe that the US is so much better?

The economy?!

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124753066246235811.html

Declining native populations?

Racial Xenophobia?!?!

I know your just trying to "needle" me mate, so ill not bother going into one about it.. but seriously.. think before you type eh?



I never said anything about my feelings concerning the u.s. You asked me about the UK and I answered. You use your muslim population as a crutch without actually paying attention to logic or statistics we use our latino population for the same. Remember the Arizona thread? I'm not needling, I'm telling you to check your head and work to fix your country like I do with mine.


What exactly do you do to 'fix your country'?
I'm genuinely interested to find out what it is that gives you the right to consider yourself superior in this regard to a person who has been sent out to the Middle-east to fight islamic terrorists in their own back-yard several times, been shot at and seen his friends shot at, injured and killed? Because the person you are trading insults with, and whose country you are insulting has done just that. And I am grateful for him and others like him, whether British, American, Canadian, Australian or Dutch (hope I didn't leave anyone out!) - I believe they are risking their lives to keep my country safe. As I far as I can tell, all you've done to 'fix' your country is bitch about it (and mine, for that matter) on the internet.

So please - examples?


Forgive the lateness in response, lappys in the shop. I can only post at work until I get it back (And that better be today). What do I do? Well I participate in local governance, I participate in local information campaigns, and I am a part of a few web groups based in information dissemination. Certainly nothing so glorious as marching around Iraq of Afghanistan fighting for my country, and I didn't claim my contribution to be as great as his. That said I don't think that being in the military and actively engaging the enemy in those areas makes on an expert on much of anything outside of how hot it is in magical arabia. Mattyrm has a rather harsh opinion of muslims in general if his opinions on this forum bare out to reality, and I've known more than enough vets (I lived a mile away from the largest naval air station in northeast america for 20 years) to understand that time in the conflict will cause people to lose perspective. I don't hold myself superior to mattyrm, but I do certainly think he's mistaken on a few issues and I'm not afraid to say so. I don't think being in the military makes him beyond the ability to hold an incorrect opinion and I don't think he thinks that either.


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mattyrm wrote:Stop hijacking ym thread with this Scotland talk.. i already made one for that!


Scotts get everywhere, you know this!

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Yeah thats my point though Shuma, i admit i have a skewed viewpoint, and im not ashamed to say so! Thats why i let you guys pull me up.. its not like im not an agreeable fella is it? I fully admit ive got slight issues with Islamorage... at least i see its a problem eh? I entirely confess to seeing only the rights side on this issue.

Although.. common sense does tell me the issue really is worse than we think, and not better.. but i digress.

Regards our own contributions, i dont think military service is a big deal personally.. i already said i joined up for base reasons. I wanted to go to war not save the world, all im saying is.. Im a cynical man, and i think thats a smart viewpoint. Liberal types seem to dellude themselves into thinking that they make a difference, when they dont! IMHO

Think of it like this... Iraq. London saw some of the biggest marches and protests ever. The USA was the same, i was visiting my missus when i got home from my first Iraq tour in like.... i dunno.. went into Kuwait in January... invaded in March... i think i was over in LA about July?

Anyway, what difference did it make? Not a jot.

Im not knocking your attempts to "fix" the nation, im just saying that im pretty sure that your average Joe doesnt make a difference at all! We just like to kid ourselves into thinking we do!

Well.... lefty types do. Us cynical bitter veterans just drink too much and try to find things to amuse us in the press.

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Ultimately a soldier fights for his regiment, company and platoon, and as the commands get smaller and lower down the chain the bonds grow stronger.

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mattyrm wrote:Yeah thats my point though Shuma, i admit i have a skewed viewpoint, and im not ashamed to say so! Thats why i let you guys pull me up.. its not like im not an agreeable fella is it? I fully admit ive got slight issues with Islamorage... at least i see its a problem eh? I entirely confess to seeing only the rights side on this issue.


I am a bigot!

But it's all good! I admit it! So we're cool, yeah? *cough* Islam taking over the world

Sorry, mattyrm and others, but you've lost me. Where exactly are we going with this argument?

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Shuma was saying that rather than just getting into a rage about things i should "check my head and work to fix the country" and i was merely pointing out that i dont see what a normal person CAN do to fix the country. I dont think that waving placards or writing letters achieves anything at all.

And i was admitting i am slightly intolerant of Islam because i have admitted it numerous times, and i feel Shuma pointing that out is flogging a dead horse.

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mattyrm wrote:Shuma was saying that rather than just getting into a rage about things i should "check my head and work to fix the country" and i was merely pointing out that i dont see what a normal person CAN do to fix the country. I dont think that waving placards or writing letters achieves anything at all.


But drawing pictures of Mohammed will?

And i was admitting i am slightly intolerant of Islam because i have admitted it numerous times, and i feel Shuma pointing that out is flogging a dead horse.


Well, the first step in getting over a problem Islam & cocaine!!! is admitting you have one. Good work.

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Emperors Faithful wrote:
But drawing pictures of Mohammed will?


Mate, of course it wont! Didnt you read my cynical rant? Nothing we do makes a difference! It just gives me a good laugh.

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