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sebster wrote:Oh, and just to point out again, the prohibition on drawing Mohammed is not universal to Islam. It’s a very diverse religion.
Wait. Do you mean other religions also prohibit the drawing of Mohammed or that Islam prohibits Non-Muslims to draw him
Automatically Appended Next Post: Okay, I'm having seconds thoughts here about the whole thing. Here are a few comments from different people on the Facebook page:
Eat that gak, mooselimbs.
you don't harm us by doing this, and no one ever truly wins by harming others...
What about wars? They are all about harming and one will be victorious.
No, no one wins a war.
Largest number of men standing in the end wins. Sally....you need to lose that way of thinking, or you will surely be beaten and raped like they do to their own women. As their numbers grow all over earth...it will be up to us to erradicate them before they try to take over our countries and our beautiful women.
That last guy scares me.
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sebster wrote:Oh, and just to point out again, the prohibition on drawing Mohammed is not universal to Islam. It’s a very diverse religion.
Wait. Do you mean other religions also prohibit the drawing of Mohammed or that Islam prohibits Non-Muslims to draw him
Only certain parts of Islam believe that it is wrong to draw him. There are a number of early works of art/etc which show him in full detail.
Regards this quote:
Largest number of men standing in the end wins. Sally....you need to lose that way of thinking, or you will surely be beaten and raped like they do to their own women. As their numbers grow all over earth...it will be up to us to erradicate them before they try to take over our countries and our beautiful women.
The stated aim of Islam in Malaysia while I and my parents were living there in the 80's was to breed enough votes to become a majority and so become the main power in the nation.
Orlanth wrote:Thats counted as a famous quote? We have chavs that can do better. You must be really short of wit over there. Excepting Mark Twain, Ambrose Bierce and Dorothy Parker.
No, it's not famous, just from a comedy album of his I really like. Don't judge us please.
or we'll let the Argentinians sink your navy this time.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
Orlanth wrote:Thats counted as a famous quote? We have chavs that can do better. You must be really short of wit over there. Excepting Mark Twain, Ambrose Bierce and Dorothy Parker.
No, it's not famous, just from a comedy album of his I really like. Don't judge us please.
or we'll let the Argentinians sink your navy this time.
I feel like im 8 years old but what the hell...
I read a book about that and i heard that the US didnt allow us the usage of their radar anyway, so didnt you not assist the UK forces with regards to keeping its Navy afloat anyway?
But yeah, Frazz, your a pretty auld bloke, why such a purile retort? Is US foreign policy dictated by what Frazz decides and how Anglo American relations transpire on dakka?
We are arming Syrian rebels who support ISIS, who is fighting Iran, who is fighting Iraq who we also support against ISIS, while fighting Kurds who we support while they are fighting Syrian rebels.
Hey I am just responding to the slam against the USA. In the immortal words of Sean Connery. "If he puts one of your guys in the hospital, you put two of his in the morgue."
mattyrm wrote:
Is US foreign policy dictated by what Frazz decides and how Anglo American relations transpire on dakka?
It will be in Ze New Ahdah! Now is ze time for Firm Leadership! Now is ze Time for Frazzled!
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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
gorgon wrote:Which suggests to me you don't actually watch South Park.
I've watched it. I've also watched a person die.
Wanna know which one filled me with more mirth?
This statement implies serious psychological issues.
I dont know shuma, ive seen people die in amusing ways, im sure youtube has a plethora of good ones, and frankly if i got killed by a maternally outraged gorilla i would be disapointed if people didnt grin a little bit!
We are arming Syrian rebels who support ISIS, who is fighting Iran, who is fighting Iraq who we also support against ISIS, while fighting Kurds who we support while they are fighting Syrian rebels.
gorgon wrote:Which suggests to me you don't actually watch South Park.
I've watched it. I've also watched a person die.
Wanna know which one filled me with more mirth?
This statement implies serious psychological issues.
I dont know shuma, ive seen people die in amusing ways, im sure youtube has a plethora of good ones, and frankly if i got killed by a maternally outraged gorilla i would be disapointed if people didnt grin a little bit!
I also don't enjoy horror movies. I guess I'm a stick in the mud when it comes to enjoying peoples deaths.
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Do you remember that time that thing happened?
This is a bad thread and you should all feel bad
Orlanth wrote:Thats counted as a famous quote? We have chavs that can do better. You must be really short of wit over there. Excepting Mark Twain, Ambrose Bierce and Dorothy Parker.
Says someone from a nation that counts Benny Hill among its comedy giants.
Says someone from a nation that counts Benny Hill among its comedy giants.
WAA WAA BUMPA BUMPA WAA WAA BUMPA BUMPA...
Dads army, Red Dwarf, Monty Python, The Office, Blackadder and Fawlty Towers all totally sucked too.
I mean, once i saw "The Nanny" everything from the UK just paled in significance!
We are arming Syrian rebels who support ISIS, who is fighting Iran, who is fighting Iraq who we also support against ISIS, while fighting Kurds who we support while they are fighting Syrian rebels.
Orlanth wrote:Thats counted as a famous quote? We have chavs that can do better. You must be really short of wit over there. Excepting Mark Twain, Ambrose Bierce and Dorothy Parker.
No, it's not famous, just from a comedy album of his I really like. Don't judge us please.
or we'll let the Argentinians sink your navy this time.
I feel like im 8 years old but what the hell...
I read a book about that and i heard that the US didnt allow us the usage of their radar anyway, so didnt you not assist the UK forces with regards to keeping its Navy afloat anyway?
But yeah, Frazz, your a pretty auld bloke, why such a purile retort? Is US foreign policy dictated by what Frazz decides and how Anglo American relations transpire on dakka?
OK lets be fair here. Much of the material help actually given was formally denied, we might not have got new radars for a number of reasons. fitting time being top of the list. ship radar has a large run in time, time that was not avaialbe. It also has to be compatible with our existing technology including anti-missile systems.
Reagan did a lot to help materially. He greased the wheels and cut a lot of red tape and made some phone calls. Some crates appeared 'overnight' containing Sidewinder 2. It was brand new tech and the USAF were only getting their first batches about this time. IIRC the missiles were also gifts as they were already allocated to USAF stores and simply redirected without a formal paper trail. We don't know whet else he did with material help but the Sidewinders being urgently redeployed got noticed, especially because layers and months of bureaucracy are bypassed in the process.
Personally I strongly suspect that satellite coverage was also available, but that a guess based only on the evidence that Washington had it, and Maggie could have asked for it, and all it would have taken to achieve was handing over a discrete envelope containing plotting data. A whole lot easier than redirecting missile supplies. The Vincente de Mayo daren't put to sea throughout the war and any surface vessel the Argies had was found suspeciously quickly. it was rumoured that the Vincente de Mayo was watched by an SIS undercover team, I remember the report in the press at the time. But I really think the team didn't exist, it was a way of saying 'we have American cameras overhead every few hours'. But I suspect we may never know for sure.
gorgon wrote:
Orlanth wrote:Thats counted as a famous quote? We have chavs that can do better. You must be really short of wit over there. Excepting Mark Twain, Ambrose Bierce and Dorothy Parker.
Says someone from a nation that counts Benny Hill among its comedy giants.
WAA WAA BUMPA BUMPA WAA WAA BUMPA BUMPA...
Among being the operative world. Who have you got? Chris Rock, Martin Short and Will Ferrell
n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.
Martin Short? Is he even still alive? If so, who permitted that? Gak he sucked.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
mattyrm wrote:Dads army, Red Dwarf, Monty Python, The Office, Blackadder and Fawlty Towers all totally sucked too.
Never heard of it, never thought it was funny, WINNER, U.S. version is (surprisingly) better, overrated, not Cleese's best work (see #3).
Frazzled wrote:All comedy is nation/culture specific.
Some things cross over, but this is often true. Might explain why someone would think that South Park is about vulgarity when it's actually social and cultural commentary in a wrapper of vulgarity. But I didn't think South Park wouldn't play in the UK. *shrug*
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Emperors Faithful wrote:Hmm, better say something constructive quick...
In New Zealand this poster was banned.
Does that help your arguement, Orlanth?
Yeah back to that.
I have a theory as to why it was banned. Offence to Catholics possibly? I think its a good ad, but Mary is a very special in fact an overly special figure in some forms of Catholicism. Despite Biblical references to the sons of Mary, and references Jesus own brothers many Catholics insist Mary was a Virgin until death. This doctrine is not supported by the Vatican but is popular in some Catholic subcommunities, especially where there is a Hispanic community.
Either way to some Catholics this isn't a lampoon of Biblical figures but a form of blasphemy. Marianism is off the wall in regards to Christian teaching, but that is not for me to judge, to Marianist Catholics Mary is a semi-divine figure not just a religious figure and if there is a good chance Catholics will be offended the decision to pull the add was a fair one.
Blasphemy is an excuse for censorship if you can show the authorities that the image would cause distress. Some Catholics could claim that, and their claims are reasonable to some extent. Most forms of social censorship are due to 'potential to caused offense', whether secular other otherwise. We have that sort of censorship here in the Uk on those grounds but normally most heavily focused in other fields. That image would probably pass UK censorship, Christians normally have to lump it, but an add with a joke aimed at a gay couple in bed probably would not.
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n'oublie jamais - It appears I now have to highlight this again.
It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion. By the juice of the brew my thoughts aquire speed, my mind becomes strained, the strain becomes a warning. It is by tea alone I set my mind in motion.