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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/05 05:12:24
Subject: reasons why RACISM still exists: the NAACP....
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I'm not trying\ to take a cheap shot, but to genuinely make a point that could help you: you might want to think about some of you own posting habits with regards to that philosophy.
It's really easy for genuine problems to disappear into white noise.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/05 05:12:34
Subject: Re:reasons why RACISM still exists: the NAACP....
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LunaHound wrote:Racism exists because human beings are flawed with intolerance.
they are intolerant of different things, its just racism are so bad due to slavery.
What about intolerance towards other genders? against other stereotypes? how about other countries?
Why is it any more ok? Its not? then why we allow to let it slide?
Political pressure. More honey, more bees. Vinegar, flies, whatever.
There are people that plays the race card that ruins it for the ones that are actually been discriminated against. Like crying wolf.
Negros arnt the only one that suffered, how about the chinese in 1880s?
I dunno.
It all depends on your take on the situation; your perspective. Were the japanese internment camps more offensive to the japanese, America's sense of pride, or the actual people that were there? Are we talking about numbers here? There have been waves of immigrants, time after time, that have had to go through intense hardship. The Chinese were used as an abstract tool to create the railroads, after several companies did the same with the Irish. It's life, anyone telling you it doesn't suck for an awful lot of people, an awful lot of the time, is either high, or is drinking a latte while riding a segway.... and texting as well.
The basic point is that blacks have taken the short end of the stick, in the U.S., for a VERY LONG TIME. The culture that was around 50 years ago, is not dominant, but it exists. I think the real point to focus on, is what issues are present now, and how to go about addressing those issues. If it takes an organization speaking mainly for blacks to solve problems that are faced by such a population, so freaking be it. Same with any other minority, even gingers if they want to get angry enough about it.
Slavery isnt accepted anymore by our society , we need to move on. What other's grandfather have done in the past
should have nothing to do with us now. What we need to address is the intolerance itself ,
because it exists with so many facades.
How do you go about doing that Luna? I agree that not looking over your shoulder is a good idea. How do you stop people from being people? With a blunt object to the head? IMO, the more specific the issue, the better, as long as people in general can identify with that issue; in order to encourage them to have an opinion. Minorities were oppressed, isn't a very good way to start a conversation. Taking note of the fact that many problems are present, should not take away from the ability for many organizations, to strive towards the same goals, in their own ways.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/05 05:14:23
Subject: reasons why RACISM still exists: the NAACP....
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It's worth noting that even the dissent to Plessy v. Ferguson (which was seen as progressive at the time) took as a given that while former slaves were citizens, asians never could be.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/05 05:36:18
Subject: reasons why RACISM still exists: the NAACP....
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As for the OP, The comment was made that at least one person "could hear the 'R' " in the black hole part of the recording.
"You hear the 'r' in there. 'Whores,' not, 'holes.' The 'r' is in there," said Minnie Hatley of the Los Angeles NAACP.
This isn' just a person mishearing 'hole' as 'ho'.. this is a person adding letters because that is what they may have wished to hear.
It should also be noted that it is the black musical artists that refer to women, especially black women, as 'ho' more often than any other group.
Perhaps the woman that heard the 'r' in 'hole' was expecting to hear it because she is used to hearing things like that in recordings?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/05 05:56:49
Subject: Re:reasons why RACISM still exists: the NAACP....
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Wrexasaur wrote:IMO, the more specific the issue, the better, as long as people in general can identify with that issue
Im more worried about the next scape goat.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/05 06:16:43
Subject: reasons why RACISM still exists: the NAACP....
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Beware Caterpillar, we're coming to stop your selling of "BlackHoes"
Those privileged white BASTERDZ!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/05 06:23:54
Subject: reasons why RACISM still exists: the NAACP....
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What, John Deere gets off the hook because they're green?
Racism doesn't exist because of the NAACP. The NAACP exists to promote an ethnic group that has historically been the victim of racism.
And I hate affirmative action, and similar programs (disadvantaged businesses, etc.).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/05 07:47:57
Subject: Re:reasons why RACISM still exists: the NAACP....
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I read an interesting argument, I don't remember where, that the USA regards itself as a self-created nation. It grew out of the desire of the population to form a nation. After formation, all the immigrants came there voluntarily because they wanted to be part of it. All the citizens therefore feel themselves part of a superior and voluntary union and at some level they accept they are are there to partake of the American Dream.
Only black people and native Americans, who both were brought in by force, are not part of this vision, and that is the reason for the long-standing racism against them.
I think it is an interesting idea though I have no idea if anyone has done any proper social research on it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/05 13:37:47
Subject: reasons why RACISM still exists: the NAACP....
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dietrich wrote: The NAACP exists to promote an ethnic group that has historically been the victim of racism.
The NAACP, fighting Racism by promoting one race over another...
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"CHEESE!" is the battlecry of the ill-prepared.
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GW didn't mean to hit your wallet and I know they love you, baby. I'm sure they won't do it again so it's ok to purchase and make up. 
Albatross wrote:I think SlaveToDorkness just became my new hero.
EmilCrane wrote:Finecast is the new Matt Ward.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/05 14:22:41
Subject: reasons why RACISM still exists: the NAACP....
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SlaveToDorkness wrote:Beware Caterpillar, we're coming to stop your selling of "BlackHoes"
Those privileged white BASTERDZ!!!
This.
Wait...does it mean my grandfather was racist because he used to work for them who knows how many years ago?
Is racism hereditary?
And most importantly, do I go to jail now?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/05 15:31:49
Subject: Re:reasons why RACISM still exists: the NAACP....
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In my opinion, racism is pretty much leveled out by now. And I don't mean it's gone by any means, but it is at a level where all races & groups talk about the others evenly. I find it hard to believe that we (America) are completely racists when if you look at things like record sells or professional athletics African Americans hold a marginal amount of respect in those areas. If racism were still as big as some people like to make it, you'd never see stuff like that. I'm not saying they are only successful in sports and music, hell I work for one at an explosives company.
I don't think "racsim" will ever be completely gone and I don't think that it should be to an extent. People are always going to profile (which is what our racism today amounts to a lot of times) and who is to say they shouldn't? If someone walks up to me in the middle of the night looking like a thug, he will get that type of reaction regardless of color. If they look like a decent person (well dressed, presentable) then he will get a different reaction from me.
There's the old wise tale,
3 cavemen walk into a bear's den...one walks up and hugs it, one tries to fight it, and the other turns and runs...which one do you think made it?
I have plenty of African American friends and a ton of Asian friends (I'm an engineer...lol jk), I don't see myself as racist at all, but I do see where some people can misinterpret general profiling for racism. I think this is typically a healthy practice.
For the record the hallmark card thing is stupid...the idea that a company as big as Hallmark would sell something like that is amusing. But hey you can't fix stupid I don't guess.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/05 17:54:13
Subject: reasons why RACISM still exists: the NAACP....
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NAACP is just a group Al sharpton is just a person. I could say "Gun Violence happens because the IRA said something stupid, and then Rush said something stupid too!" AA Is a hold over from the 70's and 80's when Over qualified was an easy way to say NO Blacks. The issue today is to get a job you have to know somebody, and minorities are less likely to know somebody who could help them. AA insures that at least there is a token minority person around. I dont feel AA is needed in most states, just the ones with the lowest Employment rates for minorities. When I explain it to my Fox loving friends I say "Would you rather have them on welfare, or having a job?" If the roles were reversed Whites would need the same protections.
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And whilst you're pointing and shouting at the boogeyman in the corner, you're missing the burglar coming in through the window.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/05 18:40:07
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/05 18:49:11
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Ahtman wrote:CT GAMER wrote:
When you have been persecuted, enslaved, raped, tortured, oppressed, exploited and discriminated against for hundreds of years I guess you get a little touchy...
But why bring the Irish into this?
good point...
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I like how on Dakka threads in which people disagree even in the slightest about what the next codex will be or what GW should do with army x get shut down in the blink of an eye, but an utterly endless debate like this with perhaps one of the most ignorant titles I have ever seen is allowed to go on and on...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/05 19:30:08
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If you don't like it you can stop reading it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/05 19:48:16
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Rogue Daemonhunter fueled by Chaos
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He raises a good point. the Thread topic is pretty flamey.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/05 20:05:00
Subject: reasons why RACISM still exists: the NAACP....
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This is the OT forum and by design some latitude is given about posts.
If no-one complains then Moderators make a judgement about what to do if they read something. We don't read everything.
IMO the thread topic while somewhat provocative is not in itself insulting, so I decided not to lock the thread at the beginning.
The content of the thread is judged on the merits of the individual posts.
Always remember that most moderator sanctions take place behind the scenes so users are usually not aware of them.
If people find the argument to be circular the best action is to stop participating in it. The thread will quickly sink to the bottom and drop off the page.
Alternatively if there are posts or threads which anger people they should click the yellow triangle.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/05 20:33:45
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sexiest_hero wrote:NAACP is just a group Al sharpton is just a person. I could say "Gun Violence happens because the IRA said something stupid, and then Rush said something stupid too!" AA Is a hold over from the 70's and 80's when Over qualified was an easy way to say NO Blacks. The issue today is to get a job you have to know somebody, and minorities are less likely to know somebody who could help them. AA insures that at least there is a token minority person around. I dont feel AA is needed in most states, just the ones with the lowest Employment rates for minorities. When I explain it to my Fox loving friends I say "Would you rather have them on welfare, or having a job?" If the roles were reversed Whites would need the same protections.
NAACP is not just a "group" my friend. Al Sharpton has more power than just a "person".
CT GAMER wrote:I like how on Dakka threads in which people disagree even in the slightest about what the next codex will be or what GW should do with army x get shut down in the blink of an eye, but an utterly endless debate like this with perhaps one of the most ignorant titles I have ever seen is allowed to go on and on...
An ignorant title? Why? The NAACP is one of the reasons petty ongoing racism is still around. It's a fact. They have been declining in credibility as of late. Don't be a troll. If you don't like the title, that is your opinion, but you can go read another topic if you are that bent out of shape over it. Don't come in here and cause a ruckus because your panties are in a knot.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/05 20:37:17
Subject: Re:reasons why RACISM still exists: the NAACP....
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Arizona hasn't been doing much to help in regards to this topic
Arizona School Demands Black & Latino Students’ Faces On Mural Be Changed To White
An Arizona elementary school mural featuring the faces of kids who attend the school has been the subject of constant daytime drive-by racist screaming, from adults, as well as a radio talk-show campaign (by an actual city councilman, who has an AM talk-radio show) to remove the black student's face, and now the school principal has ordered the faces of the Latino and Black students to be changed to Caucasian skin.
Read more at Wonkette: http://wonkette.com/415809/arizona-school-demands-black-latino-students-faces-on-mural-be-changed-to-white#ixzz0q0a0akdq11
The Racist Hate Group Behind Arizona's New Immigration Law
The Immigration Law Reform Institute (ILRI) helped draft SB-1070 — the draconian law that means police must stop anyone brown-looking and demand their papers. ILRI is the legal arm of a racist hate group. And it's not stopping at Arizona.
Frank Rich today linked to a Think Progress report that reveals IRLI's general counsel, Michael Hethmon, helped draft the language of the bill. CNN report Hethmon saying that four other states, which he would not name, have approached him "for advice on how they can do the same thing where they live." We presume those states are among the 11 listed here as considering similarly draconian measures.
IRLI's website says it fights to protect the "legal rights, privileges, and property of U.S. citizens and their communities from injuries and damages caused by unlawful immigration." It is affiliated with a group called the Federation for American Immigration Immigration Reform (FAIR). Advocacy group The Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks domestic hate groups, is unambiguous in labelling FAIR racist and dangerous. An investigation in 2007 revealed that:
The founder, chief ideologue and long-time funder of FAIR [John Tanton] is a racist. Key staff members have ties to white supremacist groups, some are members, and some have spoken at hate group functions. FAIR has accepted more than $1 million from a racist foundation devoted to studies of race and IQ, and to eugenics - the pseudo-science of breeding a better human race that was utterly discredited by the Nazi euthanasia program. It spreads racist conspiracy theories.
The group has also consulted with Vlaams Belang, a racist Belgian political party that used to be called Vlaams Bloc. Until the Belgian Supreme court banned it under that name for xenophobia. Which might explain why, according to Think Progress again, FAIR's legal arm, IRLI, has been behind some of the most racist-seeming pieces of legislation on the books. It charges $300 per hour to train Sheriff Joe Arpaio's men, who make sweeps for illegal immigrants, on immigration law. It has tried to stop the children of illegal immigrants attending school, and aligned itself with a measure to curtail their medical treatment and child welfare too.
Of course, while it's non-profit, IRLI doesn't work for free. So it stands to benefit handsomely for the cause if a bunch of controversial anti-immigration laws move slowly through statehouses across America.
http://gawker.com/5529320/the-racist-hate-group-behind-arizonas-new-immigration-law
And an editorial headline that sums up a lot of the recent turmoil Arizona has gotten itself involved with:
Arizona's far from the only state to have racist politicians at work; recent racist comments from a South Carolina Senator:
The US of A has a long way to go in terms of racism but a lot has been accomplished. However it really wasn't THAT long ago when civil rights were still being fought for people of different races. People that were openly racist and feared desegregation are still around today and have families that they've heavily influenced.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/05 20:40:05
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Polonius wrote:He raises a good point. the Thread topic is pretty flamey.
Like KK said, I write in some of my spare time, and if you want to grab people's attention you have to be provocative. I do not find it flamey at all. If you are offended, then I guess you are offended. I should think you can come in here and debate rather than take cheap shots at the thread title. If I had titled this topic "stupid article I found" or something of the sort, chances are it would have 500 views and 4 replies and pushed all the way to page 2 by now.
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Cane wrote:Arizona hasn't been doing much to help in regards to this topic
Arizona School Demands Black & Latino Students’ Faces On Mural Be Changed To White
An Arizona elementary school mural featuring the faces of kids who attend the school has been the subject of constant daytime drive-by racist screaming, from adults, as well as a radio talk-show campaign (by an actual city councilman, who has an AM talk-radio show) to remove the black student's face, and now the school principal has ordered the faces of the Latino and Black students to be changed to Caucasian skin.
Read more at Wonkette: http://wonkette.com/415809/arizona-school-demands-black-latino-students-faces-on-mural-be-changed-to-white#ixzz0q0a0akdq11
The Racist Hate Group Behind Arizona's New Immigration Law
The Immigration Law Reform Institute (ILRI) helped draft SB-1070 — the draconian law that means police must stop anyone brown-looking and demand their papers. ILRI is the legal arm of a racist hate group. And it's not stopping at Arizona.
Frank Rich today linked to a Think Progress report that reveals IRLI's general counsel, Michael Hethmon, helped draft the language of the bill. CNN report Hethmon saying that four other states, which he would not name, have approached him "for advice on how they can do the same thing where they live." We presume those states are among the 11 listed here as considering similarly draconian measures.
IRLI's website says it fights to protect the "legal rights, privileges, and property of U.S. citizens and their communities from injuries and damages caused by unlawful immigration." It is affiliated with a group called the Federation for American Immigration Immigration Reform (FAIR). Advocacy group The Southern Poverty Law Center, which tracks domestic hate groups, is unambiguous in labelling FAIR racist and dangerous. An investigation in 2007 revealed that:
The founder, chief ideologue and long-time funder of FAIR [John Tanton] is a racist. Key staff members have ties to white supremacist groups, some are members, and some have spoken at hate group functions. FAIR has accepted more than $1 million from a racist foundation devoted to studies of race and IQ, and to eugenics - the pseudo-science of breeding a better human race that was utterly discredited by the Nazi euthanasia program. It spreads racist conspiracy theories.
The group has also consulted with Vlaams Belang, a racist Belgian political party that used to be called Vlaams Bloc. Until the Belgian Supreme court banned it under that name for xenophobia. Which might explain why, according to Think Progress again, FAIR's legal arm, IRLI, has been behind some of the most racist-seeming pieces of legislation on the books. It charges $300 per hour to train Sheriff Joe Arpaio's men, who make sweeps for illegal immigrants, on immigration law. It has tried to stop the children of illegal immigrants attending school, and aligned itself with a measure to curtail their medical treatment and child welfare too.
Of course, while it's non-profit, IRLI doesn't work for free. So it stands to benefit handsomely for the cause if a bunch of controversial anti-immigration laws move slowly through statehouses across America.
http://gawker.com/5529320/the-racist-hate-group-behind-arizonas-new-immigration-law
And an editorial headline that sums up a lot of the recent turmoil Arizona has gotten itself involved with:
Arizona's far from the only state to have racist politicians at work; recent racist comments from a South Carolina Senator:
The US of A has a long way to go in terms of racism but a lot has been accomplished. However it really wasn't THAT long ago when civil rights were still being fought for people of different races. People that were openly racist and feared desegregation are still around today and have families that they've heavily influenced.
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very very good points. these are more reasons why racism still exists. like my title says, REASON S (notice the S) why racism still exists. it just goes to show you that it comes from all sectors
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/05 20:44:27
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"Al Sharpton, the NAACP, etc are some of the main driving reasons why racism still exists.... "
You can't possibly be stupid enough to really believe that. Racism is mainly due to the existence of the NAACP? Please...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/05 20:48:11
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Commissar Molotov wrote:"Al Sharpton, the NAACP, etc are some of the main driving reasons why racism still exists.... "
You can't possibly be stupid enough to really believe that. Racism is mainly due to the existence of the NAACP? Please...
I do believe that, because I read and watch the news. Thanks for insinuating that I am stupid, I appreciate that, I really do.
I guess a whole lot of people are just as stupid as I am....
http://www.topix.com/forum/state/va/TKUKOMJPAGC8PMNJA
To the NAACP, it is ok if there is a black history month as well as "african american clubs" in school, but watch what happens when someone tries to set up a "European-American Club" in a school.......the NAACP will say "No, you can't have that!".....it actually happened in Northern California a few years ago.
So, I was watching the news today and I saw a story that stood out to me.
There was a shooting in Dayton, Ohio. A teenage boy, who happened to be black, entered a Cricket phone store and two black men followed in behind him and shot him. He died later at a local hospital, and the NAACP shows up at the crime scene to talk to the news station.
He said, and I quote: "We need to stop black on black crime..."
I have a few issues with this statement.
First off, what would have happened had the victim been white? Hispanic? Asian? What about some other ethnicity? Who would have showed up for them? Would it have even been on the news?
Where is the foundation for whites, hispanics, asians and all other ethnicies? Why can't we have a voice too?
Because if a white person has a foundation that is primarily for one race, or a college for one race or anything else that doesn't allow other ethnicities...
IT'S RACIST.
Does that seem right to you?
All the NAACP is is the Klu Klux Klan for the black man. They use religion and racism to fuel their cause.
If it had been a white person that was the victim, no one would have showed up to speak on his/her behalf. If they had, no one would have aired the story.
I am not a racist person, however, I am proud of who I am as a person, and I am just as proud to be white as others should be about their own ethnicity. I don't see anything wrong with being a proud person.
However, I do see something wrong with the NAACP, the SCLC and all of these other minority foundations for black people. I'm sure the only reason we allow such a mockery is because of the years of slavery and repression, and I don't agree with what anyone had to go through at that time at all.
All I am trying to say is, why is it okay for the black people to have foundations solely for their race, but white people aren't legally allowed to discredit any other race? We are automatically declared RACIST.
We don't need to stop "black on black" crime. We need to try to do something about ALL crime. Violence happens to people of all races, all the time. So why should someone that's black get special attention from special corporations such as the NAACP? It's bs. Straight up. What about crimes against animals? It's SPECIESISM. That's not a word you hear every day. We are all EARTHLINGS. Why aren't we all created equal?
quoted because of the NSFW link.
http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?login=true&topic_id=27335471&page=1
http://www.sptimes.com/2004/05/31/Tampabay/Is_the_NAACP_still_re.shtml
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/05 20:56:27
Subject: reasons why RACISM still exists: the NAACP....
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Always take the news with a grain of salt. They make a mountain out of a mole hill and usually have some agenda.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/05 21:03:14
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sexiest_hero wrote:Always take the news with a grain of salt. They make a mountain out of a mole hill and usually have some agenda.
you are preaching to the choir. I get my news from Al Jazeera or Russia Today....
doesnt change the fact that I am in bars that have CNN the communist news network or Fox News, which is just as bad just on the opposite end of the spectrum. They do have an agenda...and the politically correct bs that I refer to in this topic is part of it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/05 21:10:40
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The thing about your theory is that it places the blame for racism on the target, not the perpetrator.
Do you see how that looks kind of racist?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/05 21:46:14
Subject: reasons why RACISM still exists: the NAACP....
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IG_urban wrote:
An ignorant title? Why? The NAACP is one of the reasons petty ongoing racism is still around. It's a fact.
No, that's actually an opinion.
IG_urban wrote:
They have been declining in credibility as of late. Don't be a troll. If you don't like the title, that is your opinion,
So you can determine the difference between a fact and an opinion when it favors your argument, but not otherwise? Are you trolling, or do you really not understand the words you're using?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/05 22:34:32
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The initial link shows someone getting bent out of shape about something they perceived falsely. The guy is a loud mouthed attention seeker (that looks familiar), but how does that promote racism?
Racism exists because people and institutions in power promote it through unequal policy, fear mongering, and a perceived right to be above being held to task for what they do.
The Arizona situation is very similar to the rounding up of homosexuals, immigrants and the mentally ill in Germany prior to WWII, and should be of serious concern to anyone who claims to believe in democracy or equal rights.
The texas schoolbook situation in which a small panel of ultra-conservative revisionists have the power to rewrite the history being taught to students by removing all usage of the term slavery" in the context of US history and to imply in same texts that anyone who doesn't "politely" disagree with elected officials is somehow a criminal is ludicrous. The texts go on to suggest that Any form of anti-establishment protest or assembly is "impolite". Really? Freedom of assembly is "impolite" now? And do we need our schools teaching this? How about they focus on academics and not political brainwashing...
These are the kinds of things that promote racism. People that see minorities (the most likely to demonstrate or protest) as rabble rousers and somehow dangerous. People that want to erase the past so that the complaints of the protesters seem unfounded.
People that want to change the focus from the ongoing racism and the historic causes of it and claim that they are somehow the victim...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/05 22:46:47
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SlaveToDorkness wrote:dietrich wrote: The NAACP exists to promote an ethnic group that has historically been the victim of racism.
The NAACP, fighting Racism by promoting one race over another...
I didn't say the NAACP exists to fight racism. It exists to promote their ethnic group, who happens to have been victimized by racism in America.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/05 22:51:53
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CT GAMER wrote:The initial link shows someone getting bent out of shape about something they perceived falsely. The guy is a loud mouthed attention seeker (that looks familiar), but how does that promote racism?
Racism exists because people and institutions in power promote it through unequal policy, fear mongering, and a perceived right to be above being held to task for what they do.
The Arizona situation is very similar to the rounding up of homosexuals, immigrants and the mentally ill in Germany prior to WWII, and should be of serious concern to anyone who claims to believe in democracy or equal rights.
The texas schoolbook situation in which a small panel of ultra-conservative revisionists have the power to rewrite the history being taught to students by removing all usage of the term slavery" in the context of US history and to imply in same texts that anyone who doesn't "politely" disagree with elected officials is somehow a criminal is ludicrous. The texts go on to suggest that Any form of anti-establishment protest or assembly is "impolite". Really? Freedom of assembly is "impolite" now? And do we need our schools teaching this? How about they focus on academics and not political brainwashing...
These are the kinds of things that promote racism. People that see minorities (the most likely to demonstrate or protest) as rabble rousers and somehow dangerous. People that want to erase the past so that the complaints of the protesters seem unfounded.
People that want to change the focus from the ongoing racism and the historic causes of it and claim that they are somehow the victim...
This is why we need nationally standardised text books. But that is a different discussion. Automatically Appended Next Post: dietrich wrote:SlaveToDorkness wrote:dietrich wrote: The NAACP exists to promote an ethnic group that has historically been the victim of racism.
The NAACP, fighting Racism by promoting one race over another...
I didn't say the NAACP exists to fight racism. It exists to promote their ethnic group, who happens to have been victimized by racism in America.
And the point is that if some-one was to make a group that does exactly the same for whites or european americans, groups like the NAACP would be up in arms and protesting that such a group was racist in its design and therefore needs to be integrated.
There is no United Caucasian College Fund.
There is no National Association for the Advancement of White People.
And when it was suggested by a southern radio comedy duo (Johnboy and Billy) that there be a "Million White Man March" ( iirc) to promote the exact same agenda as the "Million Man March" staged by various black groups including the NAACP, The idea, radio show and the duo were attacked as being "Racist". The idea was shut down within a couple of weeks and never really made it out of the "idea" stage.
So just to reinstate the point.
It is NOT Racist to make a group or event that solely promotes black or african americans to the exclusion of everyone else.
It IS Racist to have a group or event that solely promotes any group that is not black or african american.
Does this even sound half stupid to anyone else?
And what about Afrikaners, white people from South Africa? Where do they fit in if they emmigrate to this country? Wouldn't they be "African Americans?"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/06/06 00:46:20
Subject: reasons why RACISM still exists: the NAACP....
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Kilkrazy wrote:The thing about your theory is that it places the blame for racism on the target, not the perpetrator.
Do you see how that looks kind of racist?
I am not sure what you mean by the target....
My theory is simple, and it ties into what CT gamer posted....it IS A FACT not an opinion. If I made a NAAWP, the NAACP would call me racist. That is racist in it of itself. Its the calling for special rights, not equal rights, that promotes more racism.
dogma wrote:IG_urban wrote:
An ignorant title? Why? The NAACP is one of the reasons petty ongoing racism is still around. It's a fact.
No, that's actually an opinion.
IG_urban wrote:
They have been declining in credibility as of late. Don't be a troll. If you don't like the title, that is your opinion,
So you can determine the difference between a fact and an opinion when it favors your argument, but not otherwise? Are you trolling, or do you really not understand the words you're using?
I understand perfectly, do you understand how passive aggressive your posts are? It is a FACT, once again, that if I initiated a NAAWP, I would be labeled a racist, and the NAACP would probably sue me as well. That is racist, therefore, propagating racism. If you look at their case record, a large number of them are similar to this scenario. If my aunt was murdered by a black man, and I called it a hate crime, I would be labeled as a racist. If I had my own coffee shop, and two homeless men, dressed identically entered my store, one white, one black, and the black man had excrement and urine all over him and I told him to leave, and a NAACP rep was in my store, I would probably get labeled as a racist. You can see it time and time again in the news. It's dirty double standards and cries for SPECIAL, not EQUAL rights.
helgrenze wrote:And the point is that if some-one was to make a group that does exactly the same for whites or european americans, groups like the NAACP would be up in arms and protesting that such a group was racist in its design and therefore needs to be integrated.
There is no United Caucasian College Fund.
There is no National Association for the Advancement of White People.
And when it was suggested by a southern radio comedy duo (Johnboy and Billy) that there be a "Million White Man March" (iirc) to promote the exact same agenda as the "Million Man March" staged by various black groups including the NAACP, The idea, radio show and the duo were attacked as being "Racist". The idea was shut down within a couple of weeks and never really made it out of the "idea" stage.
Precisely, and it is this mentality that propagates more racism.
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