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Commander Endova wrote:@Kroothawk: Who is dante76, and does he have any history of being credible? As this could just be another fake, like the Tomb Stalker debacle, I'm gonna call Evelynn on this one.

He is a long time Warseer member with a low post count, not a usual rumour poster. But the usual rumour posters won't post rumours on releases that far away anymore. As said, this thread is for people who can deal with uncertain rumours. But I agree that those people posting lies like Mr. Mystery here or Meriwether on Warseer are really annoying and not funny at all.

What does "deal with uncertain rumors" mean, anyway? Every rumor thread is subject to being debunked, unless what you're saying is that people should believe whatever you bring to light wholesale?

I can't see the railgun getting that new rule; it seems a bit OP in some scenarios and not all that useful in others. I would rather not see crisis suits simplified either; new options is one thing, but I think that the system for arming them works great as is. As far as 'worthless' FW, I personally find them useful for FoF attacks and long range fire support. I wouldn't mind one new alien race, but more then one would be pushing it. Maybe they could make the Skyray not suck too... probably not. On another note, IG got Valkyries and BA got Stormravens, so maybe Tau will get an aircraft?

If they do get an air craft, I hope it is a bomber so it can drop a bomb that puts the deathstrike missile to shame... *very ridiculous but I want to hear the words "Tau are sooo OP" out of my FLGS

Alphapod wrote:I can't see the railgun getting that new rule; it seems a bit OP in some scenarios and not all that useful in others. I would rather not see crisis suits simplified either; new options is one thing, but I think that the system for arming them works great as is. As far as 'worthless' FW, I personally find them useful for FoF attacks and long range fire support. I wouldn't mind one new alien race, but more then one would be pushing it. Maybe they could make the Skyray not suck too... probably not. On another note, IG got Valkyries and BA got Stormravens, so maybe Tau will get an aircraft?

if they do get aircraft it'll most likely be the orca as it is a transport like the valk... but that is just my opinion

Commander Endova wrote:@Kroothawk: Who is dante76, and does he have any history of being credible? As this could just be another fake, like the Tomb Stalker debacle, I'm gonna call Evelynn



on this one.

That movie sucked.

Getting that railgun rule alone changes the whole army. I am going to ask a friend to play against me with it. Could be fun.

other than the battlesuit HQ (forgot his name >_&gt the rest of the tau models are meh for me.

Now the big mek, I WANT THAT!

Someone has been hinting to me in vague ways that Matt Ward would be redoing a codex close to my heart. Seeing as I only play Tau...

Never actually caught a whiff of a rumor personally before, hopefully this isn't just flak. Well, no, the gamer in me hopes it IS true. The fluff maniac inside me really wants Matt Ward to stay the hell away from the Tau Empire. Maybe fiddle with the Grey Knights instead...

Slackermagee wrote:Someone has been hinting to me in vague ways that Matt Ward would be redoing a codex close to my heart. Seeing as I only play Tau...

Never actually caught a whiff of a rumor personally before, hopefully this isn't just flak. Well, no, the gamer in me hopes it IS true. The fluff maniac inside me really wants Matt Ward to stay the hell away from the Tau Empire. Maybe fiddle with the Grey Knights instead...

Honestly in a codex Rules should be the most important thing, with fluff being second. But that's just limited to codex, there is plenty of room for highly detailed fluff outside the codex, (Books, supplementary campaign settings, etc) but the rules should take highest priority in a codex. Since this is a game and the fluff is there to promote the game.

Those rumours sound absurd.

Then again, if I'd told you a year ago that Blood Angels would have a Psychic Dreadnought who could jump out of a mini-Thunderhawk with a psychic Jump Pack whilst firing a grappling hook before hitting you with a weapon called a 'Bloodfist', you've called me mad.

Salt has no place in 40K rumours any more. GW is crazy enough to try anything.

I could imagine the railgun rumour working as a 3rd firing mode. So main at S10, submunitions, or a reduced-strength ray. Though really, I don't see much point in it and wouldn't care much if it never materialized.

If "everything" including kroot oxen and kroothounds is going to be plastic, then my guess is that Krootoxen and kroothounds will be included on the main Kroot sprue. While I'd love more plastic kroot bits to work towards a more easily-converted Kroot Merc army, you can bet that if that were to happen GW would ensure the mix of bits would be whatever was least effective for gamers and required them to buy loads of boxes and leave some kroot unused just to get the optimum combination.

I only want more alien auxiliaries if the models are good. I refuse to give vespid even a chance because the models are so crap.

But in the end unless they come out with something new and secret and amazing I see little point in dusting off my Tau and finishing them. I play armies because I like the models, and crisis suits aged very poorly very quickly. If they aren't getting redone, then I'm just uninterested.

I don't think it'd represent a 'ray', I think it'd represent the sci-fi trope of rail guns being able to shoot through anything.

I guess they assume that in the 41st Millennium, the Tau have conquered friction.

JOHIRA wrote:I could imagine the railgun rumour working as a 3rd firing mode. So main at S10, submunitions, or a reduced-strength ray.

That would be rather silly. If anything's going to punch holes in things and keep on going (overpenetration), it will be the biggest, baddest kinetic penetrator available, the S10 railgun slug.

Another update on the rumours in the first post. I know colour the last batch of changes in orange.

New Alien allies
All metal sets to plastic (Pathfinder, Kroot with hounds and Shaper, Vespids)
Box of Krootox and possible larger
Possible new tank
Changes to Hammerhead Railgun rules. Essentially draws a line across table hitting everything in line. Multiple pen through vehicles, only stopped by a glancing hit.
Changes to markerlights. Point system. 1 Markerlight point = + 1BS, 2 Markerlight points = reroll to wound/hit 3 = Difficult Terrain test (blinded by the lights?). Cannot be stacked. So cant have reroll to wound and reroll to hit at 4 points.
Battle Suits. A plug and play system. Essentially streamlined. Pick two guns and a skill or two skills a gun. New models might have interchangeable arms similar to Killa Kans....
Pathfinders no longer have to take Devilfish (probably infiltration)
No human auxilary in list... (whatever Tau call captured guard who fight for them)

Good to see more aliens. Maybe some psykers?
And bravo to no humans


Streamlined plastic sets could contain basic models + bitz, but decrease the models per box so you need 2 for a legal build....

Who's writing this codex?

1hadhq wrote:Who's writing this codex?

You've got four options:

Jervis - Bland Codex with no options. Tons of special characters.
Cruddance - Bland Codex with bland options. Tons of bland special characters.
Kelly - Powerful Codex with interesting options. Lots of silly broken things that should have been obviously picked up in testing. Tau riding wolves.
Ward - An absolute gakstorm.

The railgun rumor sounds somehow Ward-ish....
could be Kelly too, looking at the space puppies. If it is Kelly we would know soon as he may talk about his actual work at a certain GD
(which I am going to stay clear from), and Jervis seems to be Mr expansions/campaign/tourny.
Cruddace is free, right? Maybe anyone give me a hint who's doing DE ?

I thought Kelly was doing DE (which is a good thing).

Well if the rules are any good, and Kroot are still really cool. Then I may have to rebuild my Tau army (more effectively this time ofcourse) and hope and pray that they put in rules that mean you COULD have an entire Kroot army =D

Now THAT would be cool =p

Oshova

In this case, its Ward or Cruddace.

If Ward does it, we get UM and Tau as bestest freinds....
Cruddace should be next after DE/Kelly.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Those rumours sound absurd.

Then again, if I'd told you a year ago that Blood Angels would have a Psychic Dreadnought who could jump out of a mini-Thunderhawk with a psychic Jump Pack whilst firing a grappling hook before hitting you with a weapon called a 'Bloodfist', you've called me mad.

Salt has no place in 40K rumours any more. GW is crazy enough to try anything.

HBMC I can't believe I missed this post the first time I read this thread . . . that is a brilliant way of explaining the way GW has turned of late.

So Kroot Giants with wings, a Thunderhammer-esque weapon, and railguns on the shoulders that can fire independly whether the model has moved, run, assaulted, or not . . . could this be real? =D

Oshova

H.B.M.C. wrote:Those rumours sound absurd.

Considering this forum was just punk'd by some reprobate with access to a pirated version of photoshop and probably a spellchecker, I see no reason to trust anything coming in from the community. There's only ever been one credible source of GW rumors, and since Brimstone has wrung the curtain and joined the choir invisible, what's left are worth a whit of attention.

Hmm, Tau friend will enjoy this news.

Agamemnon2 wrote:Considering this forum was just punk'd by some reprobate with access to a pirated version of photoshop and probably a spellchecker, I see no reason to trust anything coming in from the community. There's only ever been one credible source of GW rumors, and since Brimstone has wrung the curtain and joined the choir invisible, what's left are worth a whit of attention.

Come now Eeyore, there's no need for your particular brand of Internet Hyperbole. It's not like the late great Brimstone was the only person capable of getting rumours, and why someone posting spam has any bearing on rumour threads is beyond me.

Give it a rest.

I'm just looking for a reason, any reason at all, to believe this latest absurd crop of rumors.

Hmm some interesting stuff the Tau have lots of potential just please no space dwarfs they had their time let it go!

Hmm great thats all i need lol.

Just starting up a Tau army on monday. Least theres at least a year to get used to their play style just for it to possibly go to hell XD

Slackermagee wrote:Someone has been hinting to me in vague ways that Matt Ward would be redoing a codex close to my heart. Seeing as I only play Tau...

Never actually caught a whiff of a rumor personally before, hopefully this isn't just flak. Well, no, the gamer in me hopes it IS true. The fluff maniac inside me really wants Matt Ward to stay the hell away from the Tau Empire. Maybe fiddle with the Grey Knights instead...

Matt Ward I was looking forward to SOME cheese and mechanics switches, not vague overdone OP sounding rules that make me think "Durr hurr"... Well at least we were already playing Tau, the expenses won't be be THAT bad.

Agamemnon2 wrote:I'm just looking for a reason, any reason at all, to believe this latest absurd crop of rumors.

Did you not hear me?

...if I'd told you a year ago that Blood Angels would have a Psychic Dreadnought who could jump out of a mini-Thunderhawk with a psychic Jump Pack whilst firing a grappling hook before hitting you with a weapon called a 'Bloodfist', you've called me mad.

Seems more plausible now, doesn't it?