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Chongara wrote:You know, given how each generation of "Kids Today" has consistently been the most ignorant, lazy, respectful, immoral, stubborn, reckless, tasteless and stupid ever to live, I'm shocked the human race is still functioning. For all that has changed over the thousands of years of recorded history the unfailing sign of declining civilization in the form of "Kids Today" has been very consistent.
In fact given where we are today I can only assume the whole "Cave Man" thing is a myth. After all since "Kids Today" have always been just the worst generation to date, it stands to reason that each previous generation was better. It seems to be the logical conclusion then, that the people of prehistory were some kind of transcendent super beings, that were nigh-immortal masters of every possible discipline, each able to do the work of 10,000 modern humans.They must have unending empathy for their fellows, and an ability for rational planning that bordered on clairvoyance. Obviously the only reason we have no records of these magnificent beings is that after so many generations of being "Kids Today" our minds are simply to primitive and debauched to recognize them.
You know either that or young people as a whole have always tended to be just a bit immature, and older folks as a whole have always tended to be just a bit curmudgeony and overly eager to forget the more embarrassing aspects of their youth.
While I agree with some of the sentiment here,and found the post amusing as well,I don't see the overall issue as one of a steady decline from generation to generation.
If we take your cave man example,clearly there was a steady incline in human intelligence over many thousands of years,eventually leading up to the existence of "modern man".from that point on there has been an ebb and flow of intelligence,ages of extreme enlightenment,periods of less than brilliant moments and so on,
However,when examining the current crop of "kids these days",it appears ,to me at least, that it's a period of decline,sure past generations of kids did alot of stupid things,but this seems to me to be the first modern generation to genuinely embrace and glorify stupidity to the point of idolization of the moronic.
...of course ,I am a curmudgeony old guy....so I could be wrong.
There is something hilariously fantastic about every last bit of this though. Behaviour isn't something that just magically happens. The majority of it is learned, with a (small to moderate) amount of genetic influence. Thus the corollary to the argument "each generation of kids gets worse" would actually be that "each generation of parents keeps fething them up in more and more creative a way." Alternatively, to go with the corollary to your argument, FITZZ, would be that this generation of parents has allowed them to genuinely embrace and glorify stupidity.
Chongara wrote:You know, given how each generation of "Kids Today" has consistently been the most ignorant, lazy, respectful, immoral, stubborn, reckless, tasteless and stupid ever to live, I'm shocked the human race is still functioning. For all that has changed over the thousands of years of recorded history the unfailing sign of declining civilization in the form of "Kids Today" has been very consistent.
In fact given where we are today I can only assume the whole "Cave Man" thing is a myth. After all since "Kids Today" have always been just the worst generation to date, it stands to reason that each previous generation was better. It seems to be the logical conclusion then, that the people of prehistory were some kind of transcendent super beings, that were nigh-immortal masters of every possible discipline, each able to do the work of 10,000 modern humans.They must have unending empathy for their fellows, and an ability for rational planning that bordered on clairvoyance. Obviously the only reason we have no records of these magnificent beings is that after so many generations of being "Kids Today" our minds are simply to primitive and debauched to recognize them.
You know either that or young people as a whole have always tended to be just a bit immature, and older folks as a whole have always tended to be just a bit curmudgeony and overly eager to forget the more embarrassing aspects of their youth.
While I agree with some of the sentiment here,and found the post amusing as well,I don't see the overall issue as one of a steady decline from generation to generation.
If we take your cave man example,clearly there was a steady incline in human intelligence over many thousands of years,eventually leading up to the existence of "modern man".from that point on there has been an ebb and flow of intelligence,ages of extreme enlightenment,periods of less than brilliant moments and so on,
However,when examining the current crop of "kids these days",it appears ,to me at least, that it's a period of decline,sure past generations of kids did alot of stupid things,but this seems to me to be the first modern generation to genuinely embrace and glorify stupidity to the point of idolization of the moronic.
...of course ,I am a curmudgeony old guy....so I could be wrong.
There is something hilariously fantastic about every last bit of this though. Behaviour isn't something that just magically happens. The majority of it is learned, with a (small to moderate) amount of genetic influence. Thus the corollary to the argument "each generation of kids gets worse" would actually be that "each generation of parents keeps fething them up in more and more creative a way." Alternatively, to go with the corollary to your argument, FITZZ, would be that this generation of parents has allowed them to genuinely embrace and glorify stupidity.
Also, I blame TV.
See, I will wholeheartedly agree that previous generations of parents by and large have been tremendous failures at raising their offspring,particularly in the last 15-20 years,between either being to "busy" to become actively involved in their children's life or being so involved they attempt to shield their offspring from every possible adversity/trauma and encase them in psychological bubble wrap...it's no wonder kids are so fethed up.
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
Can't do that...in fact,in many areas even spanking your children can get you a visit from Child Welfare.
It often amuses me that to a certain degree parents hands become tied in disciplining their children,yet there is always some public outcry concerning "out of control" kids.
I in no way advocate the abuse of children,but I do advocate a good swat on their backsides when they need it.
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
Can't do that...in fact,in many areas even spanking your children can get you a visit from Child Welfare.
It often amuses me that to a certain degree parents hands become tied in disciplining their children,yet there is always some public outcry concerning "out of control" kids.
I in no way advocate the abuse of children,but I do advocate a good swat on their backsides when they need it.
But think of the trauma!
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Can't do that...in fact,in many areas even spanking your children can get you a visit from Child Welfare.
It often amuses me that to a certain degree parents hands become tied in disciplining their children,yet there is always some public outcry concerning "out of control" kids.
I in no way advocate the abuse of children,but I do advocate a good swat on their backsides when they need it.
But think of the trauma!
Kids need a little trauma in their lives...it builds character.
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
Slarg232 wrote:People where I live are stupid, though I don't know if thats because people are stupid or if it's because I live in a small town.
I honestly don't know. But this one girl in my graduating class would tell everyone about how much she wanted to get raped. Why? I don't know....
"Forced submission/being dominated" fantasies are not in themselves indicative if "stupidity.",that's just a matter of "taste.",however...I suppose "telling everyone" about these fantasies could be seen as a bit off.
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
I'm going to agree with a few themes in this thread.
Hip hop blows, teenagers tend to be annoying (present company excluded of course, for the most part; you know who you are!) and it is possible for people of African American descent to be just as racist as their white counterparts.
Daleks.
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Soladrin wrote:but.. if you all the white people the world will collapse into disorder, corruption would be gone though....
Yeah, I mean, look at Africa. No corruption there!
Which obviously can't be true, because I'm currently helping a Nigerian Princess get her money out of her home country.
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Haters gon' hate.
All throughout school I was a bizarre mix of Indy, Metal Head and Punk, with an interesting sideline in Goth.
Trendy bollocks can kiss my black ass.
Wait did you just name a bunch of trends and then say your not trendy?
Yeah, i read that and thought "this guy thinks he is awesome"
Cant you just.. wear your uniform and just.. you know.. exist?
You dont have to saunter around flaunting your rap/goth/punk sensibilities. Just do whatever floats your boat, i dont give a gak what anybody gets up to. There's no need to "look" like anything as far as im concerned.
All the fething.. "metal head punk goth" types seem to be desperately trying to fit in as I see it. Hence the predisposition to take alot of time and effort to create an "image" or dress like a freak show.
We are arming Syrian rebels who support ISIS, who is fighting Iran, who is fighting Iraq who we also support against ISIS, while fighting Kurds who we support while they are fighting Syrian rebels.
chowderhead13 wrote:My generation is rampant with the "Like" virus.
So, like, I was making out with this guy, and he totally, like, tried to feel me up?!? I was all like, "No way" and I left. It was, like, really scary.
From the mouth of my generation, to the ears of yours.
NOTE: I am a Freshman in High School.
That's gay. Everyone knows girls are icky.
It's wicked gay.
I actually got 3 hours of detention for slapping a kid for saying "That kid is so fething gay." Since when is gay a derogatory statement? My friend is gay, and I feel for him every time someone walks by him at schools, and laughs. (He's pretty open)
And sex is rampant at 14. I wonder how the gods have allowed no-one to get preggers.
Meh, I think around 70% of the time when someone says they've had sex or something like that they are just bragging. (I'm a freshman in high school as well)
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CadianXV wrote:Pff. We don't need no education.
We definitely need the education (Although our system is fethed up), but we sure as hell don't need the thought control, and I find that dark sarcasm in the classroom is quite fun on occasion.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Kids these days are pretty stupid, and I know, because they are my peers. First of all, why the hell do so many people feel the need to get high? If you wan't to escape reality, just go pick up a stack of science fiction books from the bookstore. Also, new music (Except for a few new bands like maybe Cage The Elephant) mostly sucks, so why the hell do people listen to gak that isn't even music?
And there was this girl in my class that didn't know what accumulative meant. WTF what an idiot. This was an AP class!
I find myself having to dumb down my sentences on a regular basis. And me and my friends don't even care if we are insulted and crap like that for being nerds or Athiests or other stuff. (Nerds are the superior race!) We have never run into an instance where we were not quickly able to win an argument with one of the fething gaktarded prep girls or Jocks.
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May the the blessings of His Grace the Emperor tumble down upon you like a golden fog. (Only a VERY select few will get this reference. And it's not from 40k. )
I find myself having to dumb down my sentences on a regular basis.
As do I; the amount of times i've had to give a definition or a dumbed down synonym is far too great to count.
We have never run into an instance where we were not quickly able to win an argument with one of the fething gaktarded prep girls or Jocks.
Never argue with an idiot; they will only bring you down to their level and proceed to beat you with experience.
That's something that I follow religiously, for it has proved to be true many times.
Mandorallen turned back toward the insolently sneering baron. 'My Lord,' The great knight said distantly, 'I find thy face apelike and thy form misshapen. Thy beard, moreover, is an offence against decency, resembling more closely the scabrous fur which doth decorate the hinder portion of a mongrel dog than a proper adornment for a human face. Is it possibly that thy mother, seized by some wild lechery, did dally at some time past with a randy goat?' - Mimbrate Knight Protector Mandorallen.
Excerpt from "Seeress of Kell", Book Five of The Malloreon series by David Eddings.
"You need not fear us, unless you are a dark heart, a vile one who preys on the innocent; I promise, you can’t hide forever in the empty darkness, for we will hunt you down like the animals you are, and pull you into the very bowels of hell." Iron - Within Temptation
Slarg232 wrote:People where I live are stupid, though I don't know if thats because people are stupid or if it's because I live in a small town.
I honestly don't know. But this one girl in my graduating class would tell everyone about how much she wanted to get raped. Why? I don't know....
"Forced submission/being dominated" fantasies are not in themselves indicative if "stupidity.",that's just a matter of "taste.",however...I suppose "telling everyone" about these fantasies could be seen as a bit off.
I quoteth the same girl:
No, I am a vegetarian, but I am eating meat because it doesn't count as meat if you don't eat it at meals.
I've never feared Death or Dying. I've only feared never Trying.
GalacticDefender wrote:
Kids these days are pretty stupid, and I know, because they are my peers. First of all, why the hell do so many people feel the need to get high? If you wan't to escape reality, just go pick up a stack of science fiction books from the bookstore.
Well, for one, the majority of sci-fi out there is utter crap. Secondly, I don't think you can compare something like a sci-fi or fantasy novel to a chemically induced high. It's a very, very different experience. And while I enjoy getting high with friends, I can't say that I like reading in groups (and trust me, I do read a fair bit, especially over the summer).
Also, new music (Except for a few new bands like maybe Cage The Elephant) mostly sucks, so why the hell do people listen to gak that isn't even music?
Every generation is like this, trust me. Older music may seem better, but that's only because anyone only ever remembers the stuff worth remembering. And the stuff worth remembering tends to either be really good, or really, really, really bad. And no one wants to play the bad stuff. There's plenty of good music out there, just don't expect to hear it on the Radio. Good music and popular music are not very familiar bedfellows.
Thankfully, with the advent of the internet, it's much easier to actually find that good stuff. And let me tell you, there is some crazy good stuff out there these days. Just look harder.
And there was this girl in my class that didn't know what accumulative meant. WTF what an idiot. This was an AP class!
And every single generation has their share of stupid gakkers.
I find myself having to dumb down my sentences on a regular basis.
I tend to be a fairly magniloquent speaker, and I never have to dumb down anything I say.
And me and my friends don't even care if we are insulted and crap like that for being nerds or Athiests or other stuff. (Nerds are the superior race!) We have never run into an instance where we were not quickly able to win an argument with one of the fething gaktarded prep girls or Jocks.
Who are you trying to convince?
I think you need to realize that although being smart is awesome, preaching to people who don't care isn't going to help your situation. If you've got greatness in you, you can keep it to yourself. People don't make fun of you for being smart, people make fun of you because smart is the only identity you are capable of assuming. Nothing wrong with being a nerd, but when a nerd is all you are, it makes for a pretty sad life.
Or you might just be a massive witch, who knows?
Now, since you're in highschool, where everyone still hasn't developed a strong identity yet and is thus trying to attach themselves to any sense of consistancy, even if it does mean arbitrarily conforming to the norms of others, this may be somewhat strange to understand, especially since I doubt you've seen The Breakfast Club, but a jock is not just a jock, and a nerd is not just a nerd. Or at least, they don't have to be. On one hand, sure, you can win an argument against a jock, but on the other? Why are you even in an argument? Why are you even trying to 'win' in the first place? Even if you make yourself seem smarter than them, you're doing so in a manner that alienates yourself and ends up with you sitting in the corner eating lunch alone. There doesn't need to be such a strict dichotomy between your social groups. You could even say that you're just as bad as the jocks that you and your friends so despise. Especially since I'm willing to bet that, secretly, you're jealous of them (and since most schools idolize sports events and pussy follows idols, I'm pretty damn sure of that bet too).
Now, there are a lot of stupid people out there. Enough to make you feel pretty bad about the world. But there are also a lot of people that don't ever get credit for their intelligence. Just because you fail to see someone's intelligence doesn't mean they don't have it.
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GalacticDefender wrote:And there was this girl in my class that didn't know what accumulative meant. WTF what an idiot. This was an AP class!
Oh, the agony of being smarter than everyone else. The burden! Damn preps and jocks! You should be more like Ferris Bueller. The sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, wasteoids, dweebies, dickheads — they all adore him. They think he's a righteous dude.
I have a question for you, poindexter. Can you kick my ass?
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Kids need a little trauma in their lives...it builds character.
I don't find the need to spank my children very often (anymore),more often than not "The look" gets them to fall in line pretty quickly.
... and one more for good measure 
Damn preps and jocks! You should be more like Ferris Bueller. The sportos, the motorheads, geeks, sluts, bloods, wasteoids, dweebies, dickheads — they all adore him. They think he's a righteous dude.