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Redbeard wrote:Some armies lend themselves to dipping. ...It's another tool in the toolbox, and like any other tool can be used correctly or incorrectly.

This. Some people rail against drybrushing as an evil, handicapping shortcut that looks like boiled ass. For certain tasks, though, nothing beats it. Drybrushing can also be done well or poorly - same with dipping. I've seen plenty of dipped 'nids that look great and even some guardsmen.

Discounting absolutely abysmal jobs, painted models look better than bare plastic or primer. If someone is only going to spend so much time painting his army, better he basecoat and dip than rush through and half-ass a traditional paintjob. Someone posted a dipped SM recently and you know what? It looked dipped. It also looked better than what many people call "tabletop quality." I'd be heartbroken if everyone and their mother started dipping just to get their armies done fast. However, I would encourage those that need to to consider dipping as a means to do so.

I love the dip, colored primers/basecoats and other ways of getting miniatures painted up quicker.

Krylon ruddy brown primer spray and Minwax Polyshades antique walnut helped me get my guard on the table in record time, and I've recieved nothing but good comments on it, even though it was just a basecoat, detail colors, dip and matte spray.

I'm even looking at going back and dipping the Blood Angel army that I painted a few years back.

Bear LaMorte wrote:
If you are dipping and calling it "painted" then i take issue

I assume by "painted", you mean applied with a brush.
This is just silly. Do we now we're deliniating whether the pigment (paint, quickshade, polyshades, wash, whatever) was brushed, dipped, or sprayed on?

If I paint, on the colors and then dip it can I no longer call it "painted"?

What about my present method of Spraying on the primer/basecoat, brushing on the detail colors and brushing on the Minwax. Do I have to let folks know that "Only the detail colors are brushed on, and the "dip" was applied with a brush, but it's a varnish product so they're not really Painted"
Rediculous.

Bossasaurus wrote:Its not 'bashing' its saying put some effort in so you can achieve something cool. I will give you painting advice if you ask for it.

It's bashing if you say something can't look cool because it was dipped.

ive never seen a dipped model but im betting they look terrible

necrongod wrote:ive never seen a dipped model but im betting they look terrible

ARRRRGH!! I hate prejudice

NEVER judge a book before you read it

before


after

necrongod wrote:ive never seen a dipped model but im betting they look terrible

The fail is strong with this one.

Do people know how to read the OP?

I have personally never dipped a model in my years in the hobby, though it looks to be [as others have said] a great way to paint hordes; or a time saver for those who do not have a lot of time to paint any sized army for that matter. On that note, my current army has taken me 5+ months with my current scheme to paint, and I have 5 terminators, 5 assault marines, a terminator captain, a dreadnought, a land speeder, and a single old school missile launcher marine painted/based. I have used the assembly line or whatever it may be termed method of painting the army for the most part. That said, I am kind of wishing I had done something simpler and dipping MAY have been a safe alternative.

I for one hate the fact that my army is not fully painted and spend time whenever possible to get more and more paint on them, however I don't paint to Golden Demon/'Eavy Metal standards; though rather to what I see as my own personal perfection. I am not out to impress anyone except myself.

I guess with this post I am saying [to me] it really only matters if/when the owner of said army is content with their paint job wether it is good or bad in eyes of others, why should it matter the method used to paint?

NukleusX wrote: it really only matters if/ the owner of said army is content with their paint job wether it is good or bad in eyes of others, why should it matter the method used to paint?

this, a thousand times this, you have know right to say how somebody should paint there models* If you can't say something nice don't say anything




*this does not apply is said person has paid/asked for your advice or comments

Christ, i'm not going to go after someone with an axe just because they dipped a model. I'd just rather they put effort in and learnt to paint. Dipping just disappoints me.

Bossasaurus wrote:Christ, i'm not going to go after someone with an axe just because they dipped a model. I'd just rather they put effort in and learnt to paint. Dipping just disappoints me.

Are you capable of saying anything that isn't judgemental?

Yes. I like banana smoothies.

But honestly, the poll asks for an opinion... so i gave mine.

Bossasaurus wrote:Christ, i'm not going to go after someone with an axe just because they dipped a model. I'd just rather they put effort in and learnt to paint. Dipping just disappoints me.

Life is full of dissapointment. Get used to it.

no way....

I've never used it and most likely never will but i can't see anything wrong with dipping your models. Personally i would prefere to use a wash as i think it allows for a lot more controle.

I know people who dip. And I know people who hate dipping and would probably vote for one of the hate/burn options.

I personally don't mind it. I wouldn't do it though. From what I've seen in person, washing looks much better. But I guess it depends on the model.

The way some people are getting on their high horse on this one, is somewhere close to ridiculous. I have put up examples of my models on page 2 of this thread. They are not Golden Daemon standard, neither are they completely SH*T, they are a reasonably painted cohesive force I have quite a few thousand points and nobody, repeat nobody has ever said to me "
Oh wow, they look quite good how did you do it" says the Nobba
"Normal painting like everyone else then a little bit of quickshade thinned down and applied with a Brush" says I
" OH MY GOD YOU ARE A HERETIC" says the Nobba.

Seriously if anyone had the nerve to pull me up about this, I would tear them down, in a loud decidedly Viking vernacular. Why are some many people so intent on irrational and pointless hatred and discord.

There have been rather a lot of polls and discussions lately about things you won't let your opponent do, or how you won't play with someone unless x. Man, I wish I lived where you guys did, where there are apparently so many 40k players that I could afford to lay down decrees about how many colors their army must have and the approved painting techniques I allow.

Where I live, I get to play tops once a month, and I'm lucky to get a game where my opponent's force is just CSM legs glued to bases. . What I wouldn't give to play a well modeled force that was dipped.

Depends on what army you play. Bugs look good dipped cause to me it gives them a slimy look. I dipped mine and they came out awesome

I might be a bit more impressed by people's non-dipped/non-washed models if there were some pictures of them in the gallery.

I have never used dipping ,I prefer washing, but I would not be angry if someone else used it.

I'm not sure, I've always felt that only using a wash or two colors and a wash seems lazy. I've seen awesome chaos conversions where I play, but the player just covered them with devlan mud wash, even the green stuff, without painting any of it.

If you're going to spend money on warhammer, I feel you should at least devote some energy to painting them. I don'ty care how good you are, as long if you put effort into your models, it's fine in my book.

I've never done it put i might try it now that i know what it is.

I don't have a problem with it, just don't do it half arsed. I use it in certain situations (like an ork horde and soon to be skaven horde) but not everything. I also used a dipping method on my Iron Warriors but I only used it for the basic shading as a beginning, not the be all and end all.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/189538.page

"I hate dipping, it's so lazy"

Closest to my feelings.
I understand that if people aren't good painters they can get a tabletop quality army very quickly, however how is a bad or mediocre painter ever gonna learn if they just dip everything?
Killing the hobby.

I have it now! The ultimate Dakka meme!

Dipping is the cancer that is killing 40k!

I am a huge fan of dipping. I like the results and really don't like the traditional method of painting with highlighting and the whole nine yards, it makes the models less real and more as if they're cartoons than anything else.

The finish after the dip in the Tyranid Tutorial is quite good.


He took the time to paint base colours before dipping; it looks better than some of the nominally painted armies I've seen.

WaaaaghLord wrote:"I hate dipping, it's so lazy"

Closest to my feelings.
I understand that if people aren't good painters they can get a tabletop quality army very quickly, however how is a bad or mediocre painter ever gonna learn if they just dip everything?
Killing the hobby.

Thank you WaaaaghLord. Thank you.

Utter bollocks, "I hate dipping" is just a ridiculous statement. It is all encompassing and shows a callous and immature attitude in the light of evidence to the contray. I don't go around saying "I hate paints" because some does a bad paint job. Dipping is not bad, or evil or anything else it is a tool, like dry brushing or anyother technique. Use or don't use it but don't say I hate it. Its like saying I hate Nailguns because people are too lazy to use Hammer and nails. Absolutely stupid position.

Some people don't do the hobby to paint. I do it to paint, but others would rather play, and bring either unpainted models or wished they could buy models painted.

If they can get a decent paint job by dipping , all the more power to them. At least it's better than having them unpainted.

They opt to lose out on the painting score at the tourney anyway. Wouldn't it be funny if they got a better painting score by dipping than a horrible painter? The dipper paid handsomely for the models, they can decide how they want to use them.