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Note that I am not certain, therefore I will not vote, but to clear the air of where my thoughts are leading.... I'm suspect of Rusty.

It that transparent enough for you?

You'll never be certain. Why do you suspect me?
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Going back to your last post, what do you mean by "skipping back and forth"?
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BrotherStynier wrote:Like perhaps he and I really are the guilty party, or maybe he's guilty and trying to make me look guilty.

If I am guilty, why am I making such a scene? Why would I blow my cover so early to protect you? I've played before and won; why would I act so overwhelmingly stupid this game? What if I'm a regular joe just trying to stop dumb arguments from being employed.

Why use the stupid vote? Because it succeeded before. 3-4 games ago if memory serves (which it never does).

Votes going on and off at quick succession - to your repeated question.

the_ferrett wrote:Note that I am not certain, therefore I will not vote, but to clear the air of where my thoughts are leading.... I'm suspect of Rusty.

It that transparent enough for you?

I like your ordinance guesstimate as well - honestly the only thing not making me switch was the way Styneir voted for the Ork. But something is odd in the energy amongst the pair of them.

Also, as usual, I'm always up to lynch Drk_O. I'm not sure we've ever been "right" when we lynched him, but we were always right - if you get what I mean

the_ferrett wrote:Why use the stupid vote? Because it succeeded before. 3-4 games ago if memory serves (which it never does).

Please elaborate.

Thor665 wrote:But something is odd in the energy amongst the pair of them.

Please explain. BrotherStynier hasn't exactly acted warm towards me or backed me up. I thought I've been clear that I'm more interested in investigating your actions than defending him from scrutiny.

Thor665 wrote:Also, as usual, I'm always up to lynch Drk_O. I'm not sure we've ever been "right" when we lynched him, but we were always right - if you get what I mean

I get it!

Should I skip my "I'm gonna put more time into this game" speech? I'm just going to do better instead...

See what I did there

In anycase, I still find the_ferretts cautious play suspicious. Why do you have to hide? I know you say it's better to vote with a fairly solid case(or something along those lines), and I have to agree with you. It is, in theory. But it makes you a singularity, making a 3rdish team...

RustyKnight wrote:

Thor665 wrote:But something is odd in the energy amongst the pair of them.

Please explain. BrotherStynier hasn't exactly acted warm towards me or backed me up.

And therein lies the connection. You're not friendly or at each others throats. You two are more aloof. Less is more? I think that's the point I'm trying to make ^_^"

Oh right there is still a few days left, I had thought we had put more time in than we had thought. I'm going to go with the same argument everyone else is using so far, if I was the scum would I act like this?

Infact I want you to think back to other games and answer when did I ever act like this when I was scum. Never, I've acted like this as an innocent though.

Course I could just be misleading.

Aside from Thor, I've treated everyone rather neutrally.

the_ferret always acts like this. I guess lynching him day one could make for a good default strategy.

The long answer to Drk_O's question is well I sat down and tried to give you it, but each time I'd wince and realise that what I was typing I didn't want public knowledge.

I do have my pride.
And the why is extremely personal. Let's just say I have reasons to believe that old habits of mine are flawed - rushing in with passion being one of them. Thus the cation. Or the Anion.

As to Rusty's elaborate question, I'll need to be vague if only because memory is not giving me whole facts.
3-4 games ago certain people played silly buggers, imitating a ridiculously good innocent idiot. Their 'niave votes' soon became 'irrelevant' and the driving force of the good side ignored them to turn upon itself. The 'idiots' won. Thus its all been done before.

BrotherStynier wrote:I'm going to go with the same argument everyone else is using so far, if I was the scum would I act like this?

I think I'm the only one who has used that argument. What are you acting like? You made a weak accusation on page one, Thor made a weaker accusation, I attacked him for the weak attack, he attacked me, and you watched then said I was suspicious. You haven't been calling all that attention to yourself. I've called far more attention to either one of us.

BrotherStynier wrote:Infact I want you to think back to other games and answer when did I ever act like this when I was scum. Never, I've acted like this as an innocent though.

I've changed my playstyle everytime I've played. First game (scum), I played it safe and quiet. Second game (Inquisitor/Far Seer), I played it safe until I found someone then attacked them hard (a mistake, but my real error was missing my deadline). This game I've opened with my aggressive foot forward.

My point is, past action isn't all that good an indicator if you show an awareness of your patterns and an ability to change them.

the_ferrett wrote: The long answer to Drk_O's question is well I sat down and tried to give you it, but each time I'd wince and realise that what I was typing I didn't want public knowledge.

If it's personal in nature it shouldn't be relevant. If it's related to the game, you should want to tell us. What happens if you get lynched or night-killed? Your secret never gets told. That could cost us the game. If you think you've noticed a pattern- spit it out!

the_ferrett wrote: As to Rusty's elaborate question, I'll need to be vague if only because memory is not giving me whole facts.
3-4 games ago certain people played silly buggers, imitating a ridiculously good innocent idiot. Their 'niave votes' soon became 'irrelevant' and the driving force of the good side ignored them to turn upon itself. The 'idiots' won. Thus its all been done before.

Who here is playing the fool? Lots of people are hiding in the dark, but all of us vocal peeps (BroStyn, Thor, and myself) have been serious in demeanor.

Unvote: WARORK93
Vote: the_ferret

I want to know what you think you know!
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Any chance we could get a vote tally soon?

A) It is a PERSONAL reason to change a PERSONAL play style. Kind of like me deciding to go with a horse lead instead of a pawn lead in chess. Tactically insignificant.

B) Until recently, no you haven't. Until..... oh 1/2 a page ago we were still all 'RVS'ing and cracking jokes. That's not serious in demeanor. And please try not to lie but saying otherwise.

Current Voting Situation
0 - Fifty
0 - n0t_u
0 - Drk_Oblitr8r
3 - BrotherStynier (Fifty, Thor665, n0t_u)
2 - RustyKnight (WARORK93, Lord-Loss)
1 - the_ferrett (RustyKnight
2 - WARORK93 (Mordoskul, BrotherStynier)
0 - Mordoskul
0 - Lord-Loss
0 - Thor665

0 - No lynch

Not voting (the_ferrett, Drk_Oblitr8r)
Not posted during Day 1 (-)

If the day ended now, BrotherStynier would be lynched

Day 1 ends at MIDNIGHT GMT 18th March 2011 [8 Days 0 Hours 21 Minutes]

Lord-Loss votes Fifty
WARORK93 votes Lord-LOss
Thor665 votes Fifty
BrotherStynier votes Thor665
Fifty votes BrotherStynier
RustyKnight votes WARORK93
Mordoskul votes WARORK93
Lord-Loss unvotes Fifty
Lord-Loss votes RustyKnight
WARORK93 unvotes Lord-Loss
WARORK93 votes RustyKnight
Thor665 unvotes Fifty
Thor665 votes BrotherStynier
BrotherStynier unvotes Thor665
BrotherStynier votes the_ferrett
BrotherStynier unvotes the_ferrett
n0t_u votes BrotherStynier
BrotherStynier votes WARORK93
Drk_Oblitr8r votes Fifty
Drk_Oblitr8r unvotes Fifty
Drk_Oblitr8r votes n0t_u
Drk_Oblitr8r unvotes n0t_u
Drk_Oblitr8r votes Drk_Oblitr8r
Drk_Oblitr8r unvotes Drk_Oblitr8r
Drk_Oblitr8r votes BrotherStynier
Drk_Oblitr8r unvotes BrotherStynier
Drk_Oblitr8r votes RustyKnight
Drk_Oblitr8r unvotes RustyKnight
Drk_Oblitr8r votes the_ferrett
Drk_Oblitr8r unvotes the_ferrett
Drk_Oblitr8r votes WARORK93
Drk_Oblitr8r unvotes WARORK93
Drk_Oblitr8r votes Mordoskul
Drk_Oblitr8r unvotes Mordoskul
Drk_Oblitr8r votes Lord-Loss
Drk_Oblitr8r unvotes Lord-Loss
Drk_Oblitr8r votes Thor665
Drk_Oblitr8r unvotes Thor665
(Dang you Drk_O...)
RustyKnight unvotes WARORK93
RustyKnight votes the_ferrett

(OFF TOPIC
Lord-Loss has declared he'd like to leave, if I can replace him by the end of day 1 we'll continue as if nothing happened, if not then he'll die then
/OFF TOPIC)

You could just say "Drk_O votes for everyone" then "Drk_o unvotes everyone"

I like your answer the_ferrett, reguardless of how much it all boils down to "because I said". I'm not sure who to vote for yet myself, maybe everyone again?

Actually, I'll vote:n0t_u because only I have, and maybe he'll talk.

But n0t_u doesn't seem like such a bad guy to me.

Thats cause you see everything in inverted colours!

the_ferrett wrote: A) It is a PERSONAL reason to change a PERSONAL play style. Kind of like me deciding to go with a horse lead instead of a pawn lead in chess. Tactically insignificant.

So you refuse to participate in a meaningful way for personal reasons that you won't discuss. That's not suspicious at all.

the_ferrett wrote:B) Until recently, no you haven't. Until..... oh 1/2 a page ago we were still all 'RVS'ing and cracking jokes. That's not serious in demeanor. And please try not to lie but saying otherwise.

The sixth post of page two is Thor's rebuttal to my initial salvo. Before that we have discussion of you (and whether to consider you suspicious). After that we get into the meat of Thor v Rust v BroSty, with us three posting a massive proportion of that days votes. I'd contend that the silliness of the RVS was curtailed towards the end of page one (with the events that lead to Thor and I posting several massive multi-quotes). Are there some jokes on page two? Yes, but the majority of the page isn't consumed with silliness. Furthermore, people stopped voting for silly things like names after page one.
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Unless I'm mistaken, Mordoskul, Fifty, and WARORK93 have all been rather quiet for a while now. Perhaps you could share your thoughts, especially as they pertain to the_ferrets taciturn-ness... and Thor and I's arguments.

@Rusty - you've played in games with ferret before, yes?

I think at least two.

At least one!

Thor665 wrote:@Rusty - you've played in games with ferret before, yes?

Yes; two I think.

I have been unable to find anyone to replace Lord-Loss. I will leave it until the end of Day phase 1 before I give up totally, but it will be a pain to potentially lose 3 people on Day 1. Ah well, them's the way the cards fall

Current Voting Situation
0 - Fifty
1 - n0t_u (Drk_Oblitr8r)
0 - Drk_Oblitr8r
3 - BrotherStynier (Fifty, Thor665, n0t_u)
2 - RustyKnight (WARORK93, Lord-Loss)
1 - the_ferrett (RustyKnight
2 - WARORK93 (Mordoskul, BrotherStynier)
0 - Mordoskul
0 - Lord-Loss
0 - Thor665

0 - No lynch

Not voting (the_ferrett)
Not posted during Day 1 (-)

If the day ended now, BrotherStynier would be lynched

Day 1 ends at MIDNIGHT GMT 18th March 2011 [4 Days 15 Hours 4 Minutes]

Lord-Loss votes Fifty
WARORK93 votes Lord-LOss
Thor665 votes Fifty
BrotherStynier votes Thor665
Fifty votes BrotherStynier
RustyKnight votes WARORK93
Mordoskul votes WARORK93
Lord-Loss unvotes Fifty
Lord-Loss votes RustyKnight
WARORK93 unvotes Lord-Loss
WARORK93 votes RustyKnight
Thor665 unvotes Fifty
Thor665 votes BrotherStynier
BrotherStynier unvotes Thor665
BrotherStynier votes the_ferrett
BrotherStynier unvotes the_ferrett
n0t_u votes BrotherStynier
BrotherStynier votes WARORK93
Drk_Oblitr8r votes Fifty
Drk_Oblitr8r unvotes Fifty
Drk_Oblitr8r votes n0t_u
Drk_Oblitr8r unvotes n0t_u
Drk_Oblitr8r votes Drk_Oblitr8r
Drk_Oblitr8r unvotes Drk_Oblitr8r
Drk_Oblitr8r votes BrotherStynier
Drk_Oblitr8r unvotes BrotherStynier
Drk_Oblitr8r votes RustyKnight
Drk_Oblitr8r unvotes RustyKnight
Drk_Oblitr8r votes the_ferrett
Drk_Oblitr8r unvotes the_ferrett
Drk_Oblitr8r votes WARORK93
Drk_Oblitr8r unvotes WARORK93
Drk_Oblitr8r votes Mordoskul
Drk_Oblitr8r unvotes Mordoskul
Drk_Oblitr8r votes Lord-Loss
Drk_Oblitr8r unvotes Lord-Loss
Drk_Oblitr8r votes Thor665
Drk_Oblitr8r unvotes Thor665
RustyKnight unvotes WARORK93
RustyKnight votes the_ferrett
Drk_Oblitr8r votes n0t_u

((ooc Sorry, I had an OfSTED inspection last week at school, followed by my Mum's birthday and an away game this weekend. Back now))

RustyKnight wrote:

Thor665 wrote: Who do you think currently looks most suspicious?

Right now? Probably you. You're the only player who has really tried making a case against someone with a vote, but your case was tenuous at best. Combined with your psychic ability to read into others actions (look at Fifty's vote- what you attribute to it isn't there) and the self-aggrandizing nature of this last post of yours, I think you have behaved the most scumlike thus far.

Of course, without the_ferret or others saying anything, we're playing with half a deck.

Actually, although there was a lot of fluffy writing in my post, and although I don't regard anything that had happened up to that point as solid evidence, Thor has a fairly good read on why I voted the way I did. Thor will always taking a leading role whether or not he is scum - I've seen him do it, so there is nothing to learn from him acting in such a way. The vote on Stynier was not because he ought to have known better about Thor, but was a fishing expedition to learn how he would react to my turning the vote on him.

I've yet to decide 100% how I feel about Stynier's recation. It seems a bit defensive, but not alarmingly so. I am quite interested in the dynamic between him and Rusty Knight. Some of the posts by Rusty seem to me to be written from the point of view of someone who trying to convince people they are not scum, not someone who actually isn't scum.

So far I am just forming ideas, and am far from settling any of my ideas on anyone, but I've had some good hunches AND some bad hunches in the past, so I need to mull on what I have come up with so far.

RustyKnight wrote:

Thor665 wrote:@Rusty - you've played in games with ferret before, yes?

Yes; two I think.

To my recollection we've lynched him Day 1 on multiple occasions for this very playstyle and he flipped town each time. Would you like to explain to me why you want to lynch him, because it sounds like "playstyle" and you should be aware that's not a smart lynch reason with him, yes?

I am more worried about Drk_Obliter8r's quiet than Ferret, so far.

That is very un-Drk.

I am slightly reassured by his mentalist vote-switching though.

Thor665 wrote:

RustyKnight wrote:

Thor665 wrote:@Rusty - you've played in games with ferret before, yes?

Yes; two I think.

To my recollection we've lynched him Day 1 on multiple occasions for this very playstyle and he flipped town each time. Would you like to explain to me why you want to lynch him, because it sounds like "playstyle" and you should be aware that's not a smart lynch reason with him, yes?

In one of the two games that I've played, the_ferret was a scum player.

He's avoiding voicing his thoughts and he's making false claims. He's either not useful or he's scum. Either way, he's my favorite to lynch in the absence of any evidence against anyone else. Of course, I'd also be okay with lynching one of the excessively quiet people for being useless.

Fifty wrote:Some of the posts by Rusty seem to me to be written from the point of view of someone who trying to convince people they are not scum, not someone who actually isn't scum.

I don't know how to respond to this.

Fifty wrote:I am more worried about Drk_Obliter8r's quiet than Ferret, so far.

Everyone's quiet. We're on page three with only a few days left in this day phase. We have next to nothing from Mordoskull and WARORK93.

Fifty wrote:I am more worried about Drk_Obliter8r's quiet than Ferret, so far.

That is very un-Drk.

I am slightly reassured by his mentalist vote-switching though.

On the contrary. Reguardless of what I do or say, it would never be "very un-Drk", because in doing it, it would be something I'd do.

Therefore, it'd be a very Drky thing to do

That, and everyones been quiet, like Rusty said.

RustyKnight wrote:
He's avoiding voicing his thoughts and he's making false claims. He's either not useful or he's scum. Either way, he's my favorite to lynch in the absence of any evidence against anyone else. Of course, I'd also be okay with lynching one of the excessively quiet people for being useless.

False claims? So its false claims for me to suspect you now. Wow.
Can I claim its false claims that you've VOTED for me?

Who's going and ACTING on less?

Let the record show that I am really confused

that is all......