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I have ferret as my #2 suspicion because of this possibility... but I'm just not really seeing it. Like I said, if I'm wrong about WarOrk, we'd still have the chance to lynch ferret tomorrow.

Either way, assuming it's one of them and not some other evil genius that has us all fooled and has eluded suspicion, we're in the clear.

In my opinion, the evidence for WarOrk is much stronger, though. His vote yesterday and post first thing today is what convinces me. I think this is the safest way to go- my guesses had been wrong up to that point, but I protected not_u based on him being the only one not going for the false lynch of Mordoskul (besides yourself, Thor, although you'd called for it which made me suspect you). That paid off... and so I think voting based on yesterday's vote is the only logical thing to do.

I do think you're after ferret a bit too much- although if we kill WarOrk and he's not scum, then I'd be all for lynching him. Either way, I'm hoping we get it right today, since at this point I really shouldn't be seeing the light of day tomorrow... if the killer has any sense

Don't worry, you've been playing Doc excellently. Hiding that you had an ability to self-protect is lulzworthy on the scum and also gets me to feel better about n0t_u.

I'm about to step out to a meeting, but I'll re-read WarOrk's first post today when I get back later tonight and also check some of his play in the first couple days and see if I get any insight.

Hmmm, and in a totally unrelated thought - I'm probably within 50 posts of finally being rid of this gawd awful Hellion user title.

With my luck the next one will be something somehow worse, but at least I can't think of much worse than a Hellion besides maybe a Mandrake, and I think I'm past that one already.

I had the same frustration, but becoming a DCM lets you make your own title so problem solved...

Current Voting Situation
0 - n0t_u
0 - RustyKnight
1 - the_ferrett (Thor665)
1 - WARORK93 (RiTides)
0 - RiTides
0 - Thor665

0 - No lynch

Not voting (n0t_u, RustyKnight, the_ferrett, WARORK93)
Not posted during Day 4 (RustyKnight)

If the day ended now, nobody would be lynched

With SIX alive it takes FOUR to lynch before the deadline is reached

Day 4 ends at MIDNIGHT BST 1st May 2011 [6 Days 18 Hours 30 Minutes]

Thor665 votes the_ferrett
RiTides votes WARORK93

Check out this post by WarOrk:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/180/350925.page#2622790

Bandwagoning on after I voted for Mordoskul. Also look at the vote patterns, how he and Drk_O have been voting together after Day 1 (when they didn't need to, with all the town going after Bro_Stynier).

I just re-read almost the entire thread and am more convinced than ever. WarOrk posted both times right after the night phase when noone died, the first time saying "that plan didn't work out" (referring to the incorrect vote, but still, he had checked in to see if anyone died) and the second time saying "that was lucky" (when I didn't die).

Also, look at his pattern of suspicions. He switches to whoever will die the easiest. Heck, on Day 1 he switched after the fact to break the tie and vote ferret.

not_u said then that he thought his trap (intentionally voting after the deadline to make a tie, and have a killer break it) didn't work, but it looks to me now that it did. WarOrk voted to break the tie, because he wanted someone (anyone) dead.

And since then he's gone whichever way the wind blows, disregarding whatever his previously posted suspcions were to get people lynched. First on day 1, then with Mordoskul, and then attempted on Thor (the second two, both in concert with Drk_O, and I'm ashamed to say, myself...).

Particularly these last two days, when Drk_O was in real danger of being lynched, they both went for Mordoskul. When Drk_O was again in danger, they both went for Thor. I'm the only other common denominator there... I'm convinced that it's WarOrk.

Also, the more I read it his "I don't know what's going on, I'll just go with this vote..." looks to me like a killer trying to make himself look inconspicuous (and it worked for awhile). But he fell into not_u's trap on day 1, and in my opinion, given his vote yesterday and his post after the night today, he's clearly the last killer.

Re-read the thread and see what you think...

In my second paragraph above, note that I'm saying they didn't bandwagon together on day 1, because the town was lynching Bro_Styr on their own. But since then, they've voted in concert, with WarOrk meandering his way there to not look suspicious. But the fact that he's never stuck to his guns on his suspicions, and gone whichever way the wind blows, condemns him. That, and his falling for not_u's trap, and breaking the tie on day 1. In fact, he's done it a few times, usually prefaced with "I know this could make me look bad, but..." or the like, followed by something about being new to the game.

And don't lose sight of the fact that it's only myself, him, and Drk_O that voted for Thor yesterday. Clearly, we should be the most suspect, as Drk_O was a killer.

I'm the doctor.
Drk_O's dead.
WarOrk's the last killer.

Okay, okay, relax, relax.

Looking back I see a logic to what you're saying. Also, I might be obligated to admit that if ferrett is scum though i think his best chance to win was to lynch Drk_O I'll agree that I am basing that mostly on the evidence of his claimed Drk_O awareness.

Sheeping onto me yesterday with Drk_O the way he did is indeed suspect, and when you add in his avoidance of Drk_O yesterday, all while not actually even making a comment about Drk_O (if he'd at least said - hey, Drk_O looks town - this wouldn't be so odd, but he doesn't).

[bUnvote: Drk_O
Vote: WarOrk[/b]

RiTides wrote:I had the same frustration, but becoming a DCM lets you make your own title so problem solved...

Let me assure you, if they give me something like - Murky Mandrake I might look into the DCM thing for the odd year it will take my slow arse posting style to rescue me from the title.

Unvote: ferrett
Vote: WarOrk

Wow I double messed up that vote - derfy doo.

*Sighs and shrugs*

Honestly I saw this coming, you made a great argument RiTides and I'm gonna be the adult here and fess up.

You got me, I'm totally scum.

Jokes aside though, while all this is really convincing its sad for me to know that its all coincidence but seeing as you are all probably not going to listen to me:

When I flip not scum I hope you have a plan as to who it is, your probably right that its ferret, I've had my suspicions about him too but I haven't really got anything besides "He gives me the hebee jeebees"

So that about covers it, good luck finding out who the scum is, especially you RiTides , I think you'll be very surprised by tonight.

Vote: Ferret

What is it with this game and me 'feeling scum' throughout the entirity of every game but one?

For the record, that one game, I WAS scum.

Its like my aura is inversed.

I think it's your name.

Though at least for a while I was least suspicious of Ferret because of what he said after he thought he had died.

the_ferrett wrote:Seeing as this hasn't closed and I'm now spontaniously up for elimination. (Guess I can't solely blame Thor anymore.) I'm going to say this plainly and simply.

Better an innocent dies than effort being wated on proving him guilty.

At least for a little while.

I'm agreeing with Ri though, War does look most likely at the moment. But, I guess I'm just always going to be suspicious of you as well Thor.

I'll save my vote for a little, since if I join in and War is innocent the real killer could just jump in, kill him, night kill someone important and basically win the game.

Even if that happens, not_u, the killer won't win the game- there will still be 3 innocents left to 1 killer, so they'll have another day to get it right.

However, look at WarOrk's post above- he tends to have "freudian slips" imho, and say what he really means (but in a joking manner). I.e. after I saved not_u, his first post was "well that plan didn't work out" (or something to that affect).

And, as always, he wishy-washies to the next most suspected person- in this case, ferret.

Hands down, it's got to be WarOrk... if I'm wrong, I'm dead tonight anyway, so you won't have to deal with my misfounded hunches tomorrow if I'm not right.

Let's do this and end the game...

Very well, though I was concerned about the possibility of a puppeteer being the final scum member.

Vote: WARORK93

RiTides wrote:Even if that happens, not_u, the killer won't win the game- there will still be 3 innocents left to 1 killer, so they'll have another day to get it right.

However, look at WarOrk's post above- he tends to have "freudian slips" imho, and say what he really means (but in a joking manner). I.e. after I saved not_u, his first post was "well that plan didn't work out" (or something to that affect).

And, as always, he wishy-washies to the next most suspected person- in this case, ferret.

Hands down, it's got to be WarOrk... if I'm wrong, I'm dead tonight anyway, so you won't have to deal with my misfounded hunches tomorrow if I'm not right.

Let's do this and end the game...

In my own defense when I said "Well that plan didn't work" I was refferring to the fact that mordo wasn't scum and therefore the early lynch was ineffective.

The reason for my wishy washiness is because, unlike others who are better at this than me, they have been coming up with all the arguments, earlier, I DID try to make a few arguments but I saw that they were not really coalesced so I didn't really pursue them, and further one, I just decided that rather than not do anything that I would have to bandwagon with others to contribute to any progress

unfortunately my last decision landed me in the same boat as Drk as I so pointed out, "Methinks I have a lot of votes coming my way..."


So I'm dead, and now I can laugh as everyone guts me, knowing I don't have to suffer the paranoia any more. I wish you all good luck in the hope that my death will not be in vain.

Not dead yet, still need one more vote so we'll have to see what they think.

If you reallly are innocent, WarOrk, why are you voting for Ferret? A reason other than Thor was drumming up suspicion for him would be good...

One more vote to end it!

Like I said, his responses have been rather sneaky/ suspicious to me. Its a gut thing, nothing you should really be concerned with considering I'm already done for.

I acknowledge that might just be how ferret operates but I've got a vot, i'n not gonna waste it on nothing and there really arent any other suspects that stick out to be honest.

I think RiTides is spot on.

Vote:WARORK93

Story Post

The men were coldly collected today. Sitting around and discussing rationally who else could be a killer amongst them. The death of the daemon the day before and the tiredness of the day left them all drained of adrenaline, so there was no fighting or shouting.

Like a tide, opinion, swept towards two of the men, and one stood out, with RiTides standing at the forefront declaring the guilt of one of them. WARORK93 was sadly resigned.

As RustyKnight also nodded, WARORK93 smiled sadly, standing up. With a ghost of a laugh he spoke "Et tu, Brute?"

With a nod, the four men walked over gingerly, holding their swords and daggers, and each thrust into his flesh, jumping back from the expected explosion. With a sad sigh, WARORK93 pulled out one of the daggers and watched as his blood poured from the deep wound.

Horrified fascination gripped the onlookers as the reality gripped them all. RiTides strode to the body and pulling out his sword he cut the man open, looking for the same spark of evil which had filled Drk_Oblitr8r. Pulling out ropes of intestine and gobbets of flesh with his bare hands he cried tears of regret.

WARORK93 was a Human Soldier.

What would happen tonight..? Each man huddled up alone with his misery.

Actions

A very short day will likely lead to a very short night! I will end this night as soon as I have received actions from those with Night Powers. You have until 22:45 BST on 22nd April 2011 to send me any requests.

I think I got pretty far for a total nub! maybe I'll have better luck in the future...

There are a couple things that come to mind, the immediate being "I told you so" but no, that's much too crass...

I guess then, I'll just say to RiTides: Remember, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

I go as a martyr, may the virtue of my death lead my fellows to safety. Farewell...

A little wordy on the goodbye post, remember Rule 2 of posting, less is more!

Story Post

Day Five of your ordeal dawns with a sickly green glow. Up until now the forest has been gloomy, but today there is an evil radiance coming from somewhere above or beyond the trees that surround you.

Where the death of the first daemon had drained you of energy, the death of WARORK93 seems to have energised you. It is as if the death of the daemon had been mourned, whilst the death of a good man had been celebrated, the gifts being a clear head and energy to keep you going.

This morning you feel better than you felt since the second day, after the Priest of Sigmar fell to the blades of the masses. As you move to get up you feel something pressing against your back. Reaching behind you you feel something soft and a little warm. Fearing it is some creature of this evil realm you pull it quickly around drawing your dagger, before crying out and throwing it away. An arm! The fingers have all been crushed into the palm while the thumb has been raised in some strange sign...

RiTides head is on a pole in the centre of the camp, the blood from his wounds smeared around his lips to make a huge smile.

You get the feeling that the daemon who remains wanted to make a very visceral point... Each of your comrades flings away a limb, the feet broken and mangled into vaguely similar shapes as the hands have been set into.

It is a testament to either your bravery, or that you have seen too many horrors to bear over the last few days, but you simply stumble away from the horror. As you go, you see that wherever the blood of RiTides has fallen, a small plant has grown. It is as if his very blood was infused with the power of nature and rebirth...

RiTides was a mage of nature magic.

You are down to only four soldiers now, three brave souls and a dastardly killer. Three of you hope that today you can catch the evil amongst you...

Actions

It's Day 5 and your last chance to find the killer before he pulls the heads off of the rest of you. Make the most of this chance. You have until 0900 BST 4th May 2011 to make your decision.

How could I have been so wrong? Good luck, my patients!

So Not_u, Rusty, Thorr and I.
This sounds like some sort of twisted joke.
According to evidence, Not_u is safe.
That leaves Rusty and Thorr for /me/ to consider between.

Problem is I've considered both guilty. After last night's noone elimation coinciding with Rusty's silence, that is one possibility, but it could also be Thorr playing the long game.

I'm being highly verbois as this is essentially the last vote and with 3 hours till I sleep I want my thoughts on record before all three of you who have voted or verbally called my guilt before know what I believe is so.

The one thing that puts Thorr more in the innocence is that he's been calling for the daemon's head since day one.

By elimination that puts Rusty as my numero uno.

vote:RustyKnight

Funny, that vote from Rusty came across as odd to me. Kind of like the same thing Ri was saying War was doing.

Regardless we have one shot left at this, I think. The votes will have to be spot on or they'll win.

I'm also thinking of hosting the next game.
I'm thinking maybe a week or two after this one ends before I open up the sign up thread. I'm just not really going as well as I think I did before, so might as well retire to running them and try to make them a more regular thing to beef up the player base.

I'd be interested Not_u

Count me in n0t_u! Watching puppets dance on strings is nice, but being a puppet? Way more fun!