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Raging Ravener





You can change your flag though

May Your Souls Be Sacrificed As Penance To The True Machine God
By The Way The Flag Is New Zealand Not Australia.

The Machine is strong. We must purge the weak, hated flesh and replace it with the blessed purity of metal. Only through permanence can we truly triumph, only through the Machine can we find victory. Punish the flesh. Iron in mind and in body. Hail the Machine. 
   
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Deranged Necron Destroyer





Leicester, England

The Metal Tide wrote:You can change your flag though


True, but why bother?

EDIT: Actually, I know why. Everything about his account is at default settings, he just typed in a name and signed up. Australia is at the top of the list. His post-ranking system is the default. So he could indeed be from GW headquarters.

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Setekh the Eternal, Phaeron of the Kopakh Dynasty, Regent of Nephthys 7660pts  
   
Made in nz
Raging Ravener





but most likely he didn't. could work in GW Australia and might have seen the game being played before heading home and posting it there. And thats why he's incomprehensible, I mean he is an Aussie.

And thats the Australian-New Zealand neighborly comment lol

Scratch that what you say about the default settings is probably more valid

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May Your Souls Be Sacrificed As Penance To The True Machine God
By The Way The Flag Is New Zealand Not Australia.

The Machine is strong. We must purge the weak, hated flesh and replace it with the blessed purity of metal. Only through permanence can we truly triumph, only through the Machine can we find victory. Punish the flesh. Iron in mind and in body. Hail the Machine. 
   
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Grimsby

Kurgash wrote:
The Metal Tide wrote:
Kurgash wrote:Hmm..I have been eying the few warrior sprues left undone from my battleforce box. Maybe I should build them after reading this.


IMO i would build them even if the new dex makes them worse. It never hurts to have some spare ones made should anything happen to your exiting models.


I have about 70 lying around the box but so many are old color schemes, first time paint jobs, early hobby, etc, I'd definitely build a ton in preparing for the update as warriors will make a glorious comeback.


Contrary to popular belief, you can strip the paint off old Warriors without breaking them all - some will snap at the legs or arms but not many as long as you don't clean them with bricks! Do it! Leave the sprues in case you can use them for these possible squad leaders.

Given Mr 4-points-for-SB-and-FW Ward is writing the codex, 8 points and some stat drops seems entirely plausable but it does probably mean that the elite and heavy support slots will be expensive! Mind you, if Tomb Spyders stay at roughly the same stats but drop to 40pts I'll be laughing and buying even more! It might make up for the terrible pain that will come with reading the fluff...

In a world gone mad, who is left to fight for truth, justice and all that gets you smashed for under a fiver....

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Deranged Necron Destroyer





Leicester, England

Grim.Badger wrote:It might make up for the terrible pain that will come with reading the fluff...


I don't think there's enough eye-bleach in the world that could make up for that...

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Made in nz
Raging Ravener





Grim.Badger wrote:
Kurgash wrote:
The Metal Tide wrote:
Kurgash wrote:Hmm..I have been eying the few warrior sprues left undone from my battleforce box. Maybe I should build them after reading this.


IMO i would build them even if the new dex makes them worse. It never hurts to have some spare ones made should anything happen to your exiting models.


I have about 70 lying around the box but so many are old color schemes, first time paint jobs, early hobby, etc, I'd definitely build a ton in preparing for the update as warriors will make a glorious comeback.


Contrary to popular belief, you can strip the paint off old Warriors without breaking them all - some will snap at the legs or arms but not many as long as you don't clean them with bricks! Do it! Leave the sprues in case you can use them for these possible squad leaders.

Given Mr 4-points-for-SB-and-FW Ward is writing the codex, 8 points and some stat drops seems entirely plausable but it does probably mean that the elite and heavy support slots will be expensive! Mind you, if Tomb Spyders stay at roughly the same stats but drop to 40pts I'll be laughing and buying even more! It might make up for the terrible pain that will come with reading the fluff...


I once did that with my Nids I had from my battle for Macragge box. cleaned them back to plastic.

May Your Souls Be Sacrificed As Penance To The True Machine God
By The Way The Flag Is New Zealand Not Australia.

The Machine is strong. We must purge the weak, hated flesh and replace it with the blessed purity of metal. Only through permanence can we truly triumph, only through the Machine can we find victory. Punish the flesh. Iron in mind and in body. Hail the Machine. 
   
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Norn Queen






Dublin, Ireland

Tend to agree with others, what was posted originally dosent seem too wacky or broken, assuming of course theres any truth to it.

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I hope this Bob is more reliable than the Bob from Bob's Country Bunker.

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Screaming Shining Spear






If this is true, this may tempt me to get a Necron army sooner.

   
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Daemonic Dreadnought





Derby, UK.

Ummmm. Gauss becomes AP1 on a Pen roll of 6? lovely, assumign that they ALSO still glance on a 6 as well. Otherwise what is the point? AP1 just gives you +1 on the damage tabel right?

But unless it auto-glances then we are still limited to hardly ever gettign a pen hit hit and killign a tank.

Armies:

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Deranged Necron Destroyer





Leicester, England

Praxiss wrote:Ummmm. Gauss becomes AP1 on a Pen roll of 6? lovely, assumign that they ALSO still glance on a 6 as well. Otherwise what is the point? AP1 just gives you +1 on the damage tabel right?

But unless it auto-glances then we are still limited to hardly ever gettign a pen hit hit and killign a tank.


The rumour said "Gauss. Same rules but counts as AP1 on a 6 - only on vehicle." I assume this means that it will keep the auto-glance as well, so even a lowly Warrior has a 1/36 chance of wrecking a Land Raider

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ObiFett wrote:Orks are BS2, right?

So Necrons would be BS2? eek.

BUT, if they are BS3, with a 3+ save, modified FNP, and a gun that can glance any vehicle with AP1.... So freaking help me, they better lower the cost of my firewarriors. Because then the basic necron warriors would be leagues above FWs and cost 2 points less. I mean, come on...




BS2 would make me fairly unhappy, that would just plain be terrible.

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I disbelieve these rumors. Just doesn't feel right, not sure why.

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Raging Ravener





Praxiss wrote:Ummmm. Gauss becomes AP1 on a Pen roll of 6? lovely, assumign that they ALSO still glance on a 6 as well. Otherwise what is the point? AP1 just gives you +1 on the damage tabel right?

But unless it auto-glances then we are still limited to hardly ever gettign a pen hit hit and killign a tank.


Unless its made rending


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Sasori wrote:
ObiFett wrote:Orks are BS2, right?

So Necrons would be BS2? eek.

BUT, if they are BS3, with a 3+ save, modified FNP, and a gun that can glance any vehicle with AP1.... So freaking help me, they better lower the cost of my firewarriors. Because then the basic necron warriors would be leagues above FWs and cost 2 points less. I mean, come on...




BS2 would make me fairly unhappy, that would just plain be terrible.


i reckon, A shooty army that can't even shoot would be stupid.

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May Your Souls Be Sacrificed As Penance To The True Machine God
By The Way The Flag Is New Zealand Not Australia.

The Machine is strong. We must purge the weak, hated flesh and replace it with the blessed purity of metal. Only through permanence can we truly triumph, only through the Machine can we find victory. Punish the flesh. Iron in mind and in body. Hail the Machine. 
   
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morning, sorry about bad typo's, i do need to be quick on this.
typos happen, its 18 not 8. but includes 'Prime'

they shoot a lot better than ork boys, and 1 in 36 a LR.
(well, 1*squad*=if(rapid)2,1)/72))

TS is 40 base.. come on its clear.


more soon.

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Praxiss wrote:Ummmm. Gauss becomes AP1 on a Pen roll of 6? lovely, assumign that they ALSO still glance on a 6 as well. Otherwise what is the point? AP1 just gives you +1 on the damage tabel right?

But unless it auto-glances then we are still limited to hardly ever gettign a pen hit hit and killign a tank.
Well at least with glancing and AP 1 every necron warrior has a chance to wreck the vehicle, currently the closest thing you could get to killing a tank from glancing is immobilizing it and destroying all of its weapons, that's a lot of glancing 6's you're going to need.

 
   
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The best State-Texas

bob_from_marketing wrote:morning, sorry about bad typo's, i do need to be quick on this.
typos happen, its 18 not 8. but includes 'Prime'

they shoot a lot better than ork boys, and 1 in 36 a LR.
(well, 1*squad*=if(rapid)2,1)/72))

TS is 40 base.. come on its clear.


more soon.



Do they have their WS and BS swapped on a Boy? that would make a lot more sense with WS 2 and BS 4.

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Derby, UK.

Yeah, some bits sound good....the stuff about the Warriors stat line is very worrying though.


I like the Destroyer stuff, actually makes sense.
Wraiths havign PW - finally!!!!

Armies:

(Iron Warriors) .......Gallery: Iron Warriors Gallery
.......Gallery: Necron Gallery - Army Sold
.......Gallery: Crimson Fists Gallery - Army Sold

Iron Warriors (8000 points-ish)

 
   
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Sasori wrote:

Do they have their WS and BS swapped on a Boy? that would make a lot more sense with WS 2 and BS 4.


qft
   
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Raging Ravener





Bob

Would you mind writing out as much of the warrior stat line as you remember as people a fretting about it a lot.

Oh and by the way thanks for clearing up the points cost too. Is there any difference in the stats of the *prime* to a normal warrior?

May Your Souls Be Sacrificed As Penance To The True Machine God
By The Way The Flag Is New Zealand Not Australia.

The Machine is strong. We must purge the weak, hated flesh and replace it with the blessed purity of metal. Only through permanence can we truly triumph, only through the Machine can we find victory. Punish the flesh. Iron in mind and in body. Hail the Machine. 
   
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In your bits box

Bob

If your superiors are watching and you cant post longer comments, then try it from home? Either give us some specifics or dont bother

Any new units apart from the pilon?
(if someone says necromancer ill get my pointy stick)

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Deranged Necron Destroyer





Leicester, England

tarnish wrote:Bob

If your superiors are watching and you cant post longer comments, then try it from home? Either give us some specifics or dont bother

Any new units apart from the pilon?
(if someone says necromancer ill get my pointy stick)


Maybe not a Necronmancer, but a Cryptek?

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Raging Ravener





Cryptek? whats that

May Your Souls Be Sacrificed As Penance To The True Machine God
By The Way The Flag Is New Zealand Not Australia.

The Machine is strong. We must purge the weak, hated flesh and replace it with the blessed purity of metal. Only through permanence can we truly triumph, only through the Machine can we find victory. Punish the flesh. Iron in mind and in body. Hail the Machine. 
   
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Deranged Necron Destroyer





Leicester, England

The Metal Tide wrote:Cryptek? whats that


It's in Fall of Damnos, spoilered below:

Spoiler:
Ankh the Herald of Dismay is a cryptek, not quite a lord but he's powerful, he is essentially the master of Tomb Spyders and Scarab Swarms, the non-Necron constructs. Has immense technological power, creates resurrection orbs etc.

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Just to add on some stuff to scarey nerd's description
Spoiler:
Supposedly they are tied to the Tomb in which they operate and are almost powerless outside it. They also are tasked with waking up the various sections of the Tombworld and are said to somehow rise from a lower Necron level, perhaps the warrior or something, status to become a Cryptek

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Derby, UK.

Spoiler:

The Cryptek struck me as a kind of Care-Taker for the Tomb. He is in charge of reviving and reactivtaing the tomb when required, as well as being responsible for, as stated above, Tomb Spyders, Scarabs, Res orbs etc.

In the book he is also the "voice" of the necrons, delivering scary holographic messages to the enemy to demoralise them.

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Armies:

(Iron Warriors) .......Gallery: Iron Warriors Gallery
.......Gallery: Necron Gallery - Army Sold
.......Gallery: Crimson Fists Gallery - Army Sold

Iron Warriors (8000 points-ish)

 
   
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Raging Ravener





Well thanks for the info. Cryptek, I like it. But if what you say is true then how would the fluff fit for being able to field him in battle. if he is indeed
Spoiler:
tied to his tomb


I made it a spoiler just in case so as not to aggravate anyone.

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May Your Souls Be Sacrificed As Penance To The True Machine God
By The Way The Flag Is New Zealand Not Australia.

The Machine is strong. We must purge the weak, hated flesh and replace it with the blessed purity of metal. Only through permanence can we truly triumph, only through the Machine can we find victory. Punish the flesh. Iron in mind and in body. Hail the Machine. 
   
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I dunno. This being Dakka, I'm immediately inclined to post some sort of salt-related image macro.

On the other hand, the last time I called shenanigans on a leak that smelled vaguely official like this (tomb stalker), it turned out to be 100% legit. So, I dunno. Nothing here seems to be unreasonable or out of line or just plain wishlisty. So I'm going to just shrug unknowingly instead.

edit: on the other hand, the fact nothing here seems to be ridiculous is suspicious in and of itself, if Mat Ward is indeed raping writing the codex.

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I hear you there and i guess that you could write any amount of nonsense to get what you want if you are Matt Ward and are writing the codex

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By The Way The Flag Is New Zealand Not Australia.

The Machine is strong. We must purge the weak, hated flesh and replace it with the blessed purity of metal. Only through permanence can we truly triumph, only through the Machine can we find victory. Punish the flesh. Iron in mind and in body. Hail the Machine. 
   
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Ipswich, Australia

The Metal Tide wrote:I hear you there and i guess that you could write any amount of nonsense to get what you want if you are Matt Ward and are writing the codex


"Ward"... the new four-letter expletive to so many gamers.... the man who seems to be on a crusade to completely feth up the 40k universe, one codex at a time...

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