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If you believe you can legitimately equate any elected official of a democratic nation as approaching OBL's evil, perhaps you need to take a step back and regain some perspective.

This thread is for mocking a specific figure of evil and murder loathed the world over. There is no need or call to debate other political issues here.

Sigh; the internet is stupid.

Mannahnin wrote:If you believe you can legitimately judge any human presently alive on Earth as approaching OBL's evil, perhaps you need to take a step back and regain some perspective.

Plenty of people alive today have a lot more innocent lives on their conscience. But those lives weren't American so I guess they don't count. What was that about perspective again?

EDIT: For the record, I don't mind mocking OBL. I don't mind mocking anything or anyone. But the hypocrisy is killing me.

Exactly. I guess the mods are enforcing a political and cultural perspective now.

I loved it, it was just a bit of a laugh, creative of OP if you ask me.

Oh a joke was made about Osama Bin Laden's death. Oh the shame!

lord_blackfang wrote:

Mannahnin wrote:If you believe you can legitimately judge any human presently alive on Earth as approaching OBL's evil, perhaps you need to take a step back and regain some perspective.

Plenty of people alive today have a lot more innocent lives on their conscience. But those lives weren't American so I guess they don't count. What was that about perspective again?

EDIT: For the record, I don't mind mocking OBL. I don't mind mocking anything or anyone. But the hypocrisy is killing me.

What hypocrisy. Its a spoof of a murderous killer getting wacked. Seriously, pull you head out of your ass already.


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asmith wrote:Exactly. I guess the mods are enforcing a political and cultural perspective now.

Maybe your earlier comment was, you know, dumber than a box of rocks?

Pyriel- wrote:
Boy I am so glad for your own sake that you dont live in quasi-communist Sweden or else you would be called a "racist" by now. You see political correctness is literarily seeping out from the ground you walk on here *sigh*

In other words +1 to your post.

I've been called a racist before. The people who do so are usually surprised to learn that I spent 2 happy years living in a majority-muslim country and hope very much to return and spend 20-30 more years there.

As for the PC culture, they can only impose it on you if you let them. Political correctness depends on the accused admitting guilt. Otherwise, it has no meaningful enforcement tool.

That said, I don't think it's too PC to point out that OBL was originally trained to be a terrorist (read: insurgent) by the very same intelligence service and special forces who eventually hunted him down; that his radicalism was actively encouraged by ham-fisted geopolitical foolishness on the part of the West generally; that he and his ilk can only recruit because of massive international economic disparity; and that he's no more evil (although he is more dangerous) than anybody who values their ideology more than they value the lives of innocent people, no matter what those people do or don't do to act upon their belief.

I enjoyed this thread because it contained, through its satirical tone, some real analysis and commentary on the real problems represented by the dead man and his surviving associates, flunkies and stooges. If it didn't, my praise of it would have been far more muted.

We can reject the rampant culture of political correctness without rejecting our own ability to think, reason, and apply good judgment. So let's not reject them

I for one, think this is gold. Thanks for the laughs!

yeah, get off the cross guys. this is worth a chuckle if for nothing more than its satirical tone.

You forgot to mention the city where the compound was located - Abaddonabad.

Fantastic posts by Malleus in this thread!

asmith wrote:Exactly. I guess the mods are enforcing a political and cultural perspective now.

I don't understand you guys's problem.

The thread is about a parody write-up of Bin Laden being killed, set in the 40K universe. Where's the hypocrisy?

If you think there are some other people who also deserve to be parodied, why don't you write something and make a new thread? You can't expect K_K to do everything for you.

It is hypocritical to allow something from one perspective that would under no other circumstances be allowed from a different perspective. Do you really not see that?

Edit: In fact I did that in my now deleted post and was immediately deleted for trolling.

Quite amusing.

Asmith, your earlier post was deleted because it labeled the entire US military as well as all Christians as murderers and cultists.

Your choice to continue trolling this thread is noted and taken as a deliberate violation of Dakka rules.


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lord_blackfang wrote:

Mannahnin wrote:If you believe you can legitimately judge any human presently alive on Earth as approaching OBL's evil, perhaps you need to take a step back and regain some perspective.

Plenty of people alive today have a lot more innocent lives on their conscience. But those lives weren't American so I guess they don't count. What was that about perspective again?

EDIT: For the record, I don't mind mocking OBL. I don't mind mocking anything or anyone. But the hypocrisy is killing me.

You may wish to refresh your memory on the number and names of the nations which lost citizens in the 9/11 attacks.

The idea that you equate any form of war (which is, all acknowledge, always a terrible thing, and leads inevitably to the undesired deaths of innocents) with the deliberate and targeted murder of civilians makes clear that you are misapplying the term "hypocrisy".

asmith wrote:It is hypocritical to allow something from one perspective that would under no other circumstances be allowed from a different perspective. Do you really not see that?

Edit: In fact I did that in my now deleted post and was immediately deleted for trolling.

Hypocrisy is when you say it is good to allow things from all perspectives but secretly you don't believe that and don't do it.

I've been called a racist before. The people who do so are usually surprised to learn that I spent 2 happy years living in a majority-muslim country and hope very much to return and spend 20-30 more years there.

As for the PC culture, they can only impose it on you if you let them. Political correctness depends on the accused admitting guilt. Otherwise, it has no meaningful enforcement tool.

If you for a second took my post as criticism towards you or me calling you bad things then I apologize, it was never my intention, quite the opposite in fact as I fully agree with you and what you have said so far.

But sadly, the imposing of PC only working if you let them is not so true over here where you can actually loose your job if it comes out that you are of the "wrong" political opinion due to pressure from outside.

Mannahnin wrote:

lord_blackfang wrote:

Mannahnin wrote:[b]If you believe you can legitimately judge any human presently alive on Earth as approaching OBL's evil, perhaps you need to take a step back and regain some perspective.

Plenty of people alive today have a lot more innocent lives on their conscience. But those lives weren't American so I guess they don't count. What was that about perspective again?

EDIT: For the record, I don't mind mocking OBL. I don't mind mocking anything or anyone. But the hypocrisy is killing me.

You may wish to refresh your memory on the number and names of the nations which lost citizens in the 9/11 attacks.

The idea that you equate any form of war (which is, all acknowledge, always a terrible thing, and leads inevitably to the undesired deaths of innocents) with the deliberate and targeted murder of civilians makes clear that you are misapplying the term "hypocrisy".

But if none of the 9/11 victims had been US citizens, OBL wouldn't even be on your radar.

There are plenty of innocent civilians being murdered right now, and I'm not necessarily talking about the US attacks on Iraq and Afghanistan. What about the almost weekly genocides on Africa? Hundreds of thousands (at least) die every year at the hands of petty dictators and their brain-washed flunkies, but their lives are barely worth a footnote in human right reports. To say that OBL was the greatest evil of our time when his death toll is several orders of magnitude smaller clearly shows how little you value non-US (or shall we at least say non-Western) lives.

I'm sure if you had made a disparaging remark about the Janjaweed that would have been ok by them too.

lord_blackfang wrote:
But if none of the 9/11 victims had been US citizens, OBL wouldn't even be on your radar.

There are plenty of innocent civilians being murdered right now, and I'm not necessarily talking about the US attacks on Iraq and Afghanistan. What about the almost weekly genocides on Africa? Hundreds of thousands (at least) die every year at the hands of petty dictators and their brain-washed flunkies, but their lives are barely worth a footnote in human right reports. To say that OBL was the greatest evil of our time when his death toll is several orders of magnitude smaller clearly shows how little you value non-US (or shall we at least say non-Western) lives.

Well there is some cultural relativism at play here.

Yes, there is much killing and much evil in the world, but when you attack “us” and our culture you are our greatest evil.

lord_blackfang wrote:

Mannahnin wrote:

lord_blackfang wrote:

Mannahnin wrote:[b]If you believe you can legitimately judge any human presently alive on Earth as approaching OBL's evil, perhaps you need to take a step back and regain some perspective.

Plenty of people alive today have a lot more innocent lives on their conscience. But those lives weren't American so I guess they don't count. What was that about perspective again?

EDIT: For the record, I don't mind mocking OBL. I don't mind mocking anything or anyone. But the hypocrisy is killing me.

You may wish to refresh your memory on the number and names of the nations which lost citizens in the 9/11 attacks.

The idea that you equate any form of war (which is, all acknowledge, always a terrible thing, and leads inevitably to the undesired deaths of innocents) with the deliberate and targeted murder of civilians makes clear that you are misapplying the term "hypocrisy".

But if none of the 9/11 victims had been US citizens, OBL wouldn't even be on your radar.

There are plenty of innocent civilians being murdered right now, and I'm not necessarily talking about the US attacks on Iraq and Afghanistan. What about the almost weekly genocides on Africa? Hundreds of thousands (at least) die every year at the hands of petty dictators and their brain-washed flunkies, but their lives are barely worth a footnote in human right reports. To say that OBL was the greatest evil of our time when his death toll is several orders of magnitude smaller clearly shows how little you value non-US (or shall we at least say non-Western) lives.

SO what?

Hyperbole is a good thing, I guess?


No, !@#$ it. I want you to provide numbers on your statement.

Another thing I want is an explination on your spewage,here. WTF are you on about, aside from just bagging on people?

"What about the almost weekly genocides on Africa?"

What about it?

As for OBL? He was a D bag, but not quite as evil as ignorance.

Get smart!

The only problem with this kind of thread is if it sparks a retaliation. That's the bad part. Otherwise it was well written out and well thought out. Kudos

I laughed, it was a good writeup.

Everyone knows Abaddon has been on ice for centuries, the high lords of Terra have just been too busy to announce it. right??

Bunker wrote:This isn't even remotely funny.

Agreed


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lord_blackfang wrote:

Mannahnin wrote:

lord_blackfang wrote:

Mannahnin wrote:[b]If you believe you can legitimately judge any human presently alive on Earth as approaching OBL's evil, perhaps you need to take a step back and regain some perspective.

Plenty of people alive today have a lot more innocent lives on their conscience. But those lives weren't American so I guess they don't count. What was that about perspective again?

EDIT: For the record, I don't mind mocking OBL. I don't mind mocking anything or anyone. But the hypocrisy is killing me.

You may wish to refresh your memory on the number and names of the nations which lost citizens in the 9/11 attacks.

The idea that you equate any form of war (which is, all acknowledge, always a terrible thing, and leads inevitably to the undesired deaths of innocents) with the deliberate and targeted murder of civilians makes clear that you are misapplying the term "hypocrisy".

But if none of the 9/11 victims had been US citizens, OBL wouldn't even be on your radar.

There are plenty of innocent civilians being murdered right now, and I'm not necessarily talking about the US attacks on Iraq and Afghanistan. What about the almost weekly genocides on Africa? Hundreds of thousands (at least) die every year at the hands of petty dictators and their brain-washed flunkies, but their lives are barely worth a footnote in human right reports. To say that OBL was the greatest evil of our time when his death toll is several orders of magnitude smaller clearly shows how little you value non-US (or shall we at least say non-Western) lives.

Yeah but this si a clear victory such as if US kills dictators to play international police like the UN want it to another will jump in his place

I found this hillarious. Then again my hummor has always been on the morbid side. Especially the lego (if I'm not mistaken) "compound" picture and the trucks of screaming babbies.

Lord Blackfang wrote:

Mannahnin wrote:You may wish to refresh your memory on the number and names of the nations which lost citizens in the 9/11 attacks.

The idea that you equate any form of war (which is, all acknowledge, always a terrible thing, and leads inevitably to the undesired deaths of innocents) with the deliberate and targeted murder of civilians makes clear that you are misapplying the term "hypocrisy".

But if none of the 9/11 victims had been US citizens, OBL wouldn't even be on your radar.

This is a supposition on your part. While American parochialism is a fun punching bag, not all of us are ignorant of international affairs. If 3000 people had been killed in a single day's terrorist attack in any Western nation, or any nation where significant numbers of Dakka members originate, we would all be aware of it.

Lord Blackfang wrote:about the almost weekly genocides on Africa? Hundreds of thousands (at least) die every year at the hands of petty dictators and their brain-washed flunkies, but their lives are barely worth a footnote in human right reports.

They are prominently featured in human rights reports, as any member of Amnesty International (including me) can tell you.

Lord Blackfang wrote:To say that OBL was the greatest evil of our time when his death toll is several orders of magnitude smaller clearly shows how little you value non-US (or shall we at least say non-Western) lives.

If you would care to write a parody about another similarly evil person and can make it funny, I am sure people would welcome and applaud it.

You are doing discredit to your legitimate point (that atrocities in Africa and other corners of the world are given too little attention), by creating a false dichotomy. The fact that Americans and others hate Bin Laden does not mean that we do not value non-US or non-Western lives. Your displaying such a lack of awareness about all the non-Americans who died in the World Trade Center really undercuts your point as well.

Oh look, it's just like off-topic now.

Funny, I thought this post was one of the few funny and clever ones I've seen on this entire forum. I loved it.

You forgot to mention the city where the compound was located - Abaddonabad.

I demand OP amend it!

Anyway, I think it is a victory in itself to mock Osama Derp Ladin. I think celebration should be heralded with every human stain's demise.