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Frazzled wrote:Thats the problem with today's youth, you'd rather sit around typing on your newfangled Banana Isods and complain, then get out and work.

Look at you, what with the backhanded remarks and broad generalizations and all. Aren't you just adorable?

Bunker wrote:

Frazzled wrote:Thats the problem with today's youth, you'd rather sit around typing on your newfangled Banana Isods and complain, then get out and work.

Look at you, what with the backhanded remarks and broad generalizations and all. Aren't you just adorable?

To know me is to love me.

Frazzled wrote:

To know me is to love me.

Agree to disagree, old chum?

I chuckled... No need to get too excited it was merely a 40K re-accounting and nothing more.

Let's please get back to the matter of this transparent slur regarding the great revolutionary Bin Abbadon.

Manchu wrote:It's a lie, K_K, pure Imperial propaganda. Where's the Talon of Horus, huh? Plus everyone knows the Imperium planned and carried out the invasion of Cadia itself. Bin Abaddon was just a convenient scapegoat.

I demand photos of the Talon of Horus!

Exactly! This "we had to cast it into to the Eye" junk is ridiculous.

Worglock wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:

Worglock wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:I thought it was funny.

Would you have thought it was funny if it was a joke involving Imperial forces nailing the Heretic Stronghold of Harushami with a cyclonic torpedo?

No.

So what?

So it's ok as long as certain people think it's ok?

and anyone else can go pound sand right?

I personally wouldn't find such a joke about Japan funny and I don't think many people would. I don't think you would, I think you are arguing it to make a point, however I think your point is not valid, since there is a difference between a natural disaster and the shooting of a wanted criminal.

There is also topicality. The Abbadon joke would not have been nearly as funny if it wasn't posted so soon after the events it parodies.

There is also community feeling. The majority reaction in this forum is that the joke was a good one. No doubt the reaction in a pro-Al Qaeda forum would be completely different.

I'm sorry that you didn't enjoy it. I have some difficulty in understanding the basis of your outrage, though.

beef wrote:<Insane ramblings snipped>

As for the topic, yes its tasteless and brings out varied responses from people. Such is the joy of the interweb.
There is probably a kid in the middle east who plays 40K, His version would have OBL as they hero of the Imperiam sending his space marines to a planet in the eye of Terror. his Marines greatly outmanned and gunned by the Chaos Armies decide the only thing they can do to try and win against such a superior force is to crash their thunderhawks into the 2 Chaos towers and killing all the chaos cultist inside.

Not so funny is it.

See, this is a prime example of an argument that is hard to imagine someone actually trying in real life; if there is a kid out there who genuinely reveres Bin Ladin as a hero, his problem isn't that he's going to be offended by this thread on Dakka...

His problem is that he has been indoctrinated into a Murderous Death Cult (and not the good kind, with the corsets). OBL (or UBL, as you please) didn't represent a slightly different model of economic rights, or a differing level of free speech absolutism, or any of the myriad things politicians argue about; he was the head of a nigh-universally condemned organization devoted to dragging the world back to the 12th century. An organization that, as President Zardawi points out, is responsible for unimaginable suffering in the Muslim world; "Two thousand police officers, as many as 30,000 innocent civilians and a generation of social progress for our people have been lost."

If you think we ought not to celebrate the death of those who call themselves our enemy, that's fine. We (and president Zardawi) disagree. But don't claim that there is some double standard at work here because somewhere, out there in the dark corners of the world, there is someone that thinks that these creatures are heroes and we shouldn't be offending those benighted fools.

Buzzsaw wrote:His problem is that he has been indoctrinated into a Murderous Death Cult

How dare you refer to Bin Abaddon's righteous followers as a "Murderous Death Cult." There's a prime example of your Imperium-centric bigotry! Everyone knows that Bin Abaddon did not lead any "Murderous Death Cult." It's ridiculous. The organization's proper name is pretty simple, you corpse-worshiper: Bin Abaddon's 13th Black Crusade of Death and Murder. "Murderous Death Cult," pfft! You really ought to study a bit more about the subject before throwing around these prejudiced and ignorant claims.

Buzzsaw wrote:

beef wrote:

As for the topic, yes its tasteless and brings out varied responses from people. Such is the joy of the interweb.
There is probably a kid in the middle east who plays 40K, His version would have OBL as they hero of the Imperiam sending his space marines to a planet in the eye of Terror. his Marines greatly outmanned and gunned by the Chaos Armies decide the only thing they can do to try and win against such a superior force is to crash their thunderhawks into the 2 Chaos towers and killing all the chaos cultist inside.

Not so funny is it.

See, this is a prime example of an argument that is hard to imagine someone actually trying in real life; if there is a kid out there who genuinely reveres Bin Ladin as a hero, his problem isn't that he's going to be offended by this thread on Dakka...

His problem is that he has been indoctrinated into a Murderous Death Cult (and not the good kind, with the corsets). OBL (or UBL, as you please) didn't represent a slightly different model of economic rights, or a differing level of free speech absolutism, or any of the myriad things politicians argue about; he was the head of a nigh-universally condemned organization devoted to dragging the world back to the 12th century. An organization that, as President Zardawi points out, is responsible for unimaginable suffering in the Muslim world; "Two thousand police officers, as many as 30,000 innocent civilians and a generation of social progress for our people have been lost."

If you think we ought not to celebrate the death of those who call themselves our enemy, that's fine. We (and president Zardawi) disagree. But don't claim that there is some double standard at work here because somewhere, out there in the dark corners of the world, there is someone that thinks that these creatures are heroes and we shouldn't be offending those benighted fools.

... and yet, if we make no effort at all to understand the root causes of those perspectives and actions (hateful though they are), aren't we depriving ourselves of valuable tools we should be using to stamp them out?

The two things are not mutually exclusive.

Bunker wrote:

Worglock wrote:So it's ok as long as certain people think it's ok?

and anyone else can go pound sand right?

Kinda, but no. It's only okay as long as there's a MOD or DCM tag under the person's name.

This is demonstrably untrue, particularly given that folks like Gwar have been DCMs.

Mannahnin wrote:

Bunker wrote:

Worglock wrote:So it's ok as long as certain people think it's ok?

and anyone else can go pound sand right?

Kinda, but no. It's only okay as long as there's a MOD or DCM tag under the person's name.

This is demonstrably untrue, particularly given that folks like Gwar have been DCMs.

That name again. For noob me, it grows in infamy...

meh I seen worse at school

htj wrote:

Mannahnin wrote:

Bunker wrote:

Worglock wrote:So it's ok as long as certain people think it's ok?

and anyone else can go pound sand right?

Kinda, but no. It's only okay as long as there's a MOD or DCM tag under the person's name.

This is demonstrably untrue, particularly given that folks like Gwar have been DCMs.

That name again. For noob me, it grows in infamy...

Just wait until you hear of Stelek and Mauleed.

Malleus wrote:

Buzzsaw wrote:

beef wrote:

As for the topic, yes its tasteless and brings out varied responses from people. Such is the joy of the interweb.
There is probably a kid in the middle east who plays 40K, His version would have OBL as they hero of the Imperiam sending his space marines to a planet in the eye of Terror. his Marines greatly outmanned and gunned by the Chaos Armies decide the only thing they can do to try and win against such a superior force is to crash their thunderhawks into the 2 Chaos towers and killing all the chaos cultist inside.

Not so funny is it.

See, this is a prime example of an argument that is hard to imagine someone actually trying in real life; if there is a kid out there who genuinely reveres Bin Ladin as a hero, his problem isn't that he's going to be offended by this thread on Dakka...

His problem is that he has been indoctrinated into a Murderous Death Cult (and not the good kind, with the corsets). OBL (or UBL, as you please) didn't represent a slightly different model of economic rights, or a differing level of free speech absolutism, or any of the myriad things politicians argue about; he was the head of a nigh-universally condemned organization devoted to dragging the world back to the 12th century. An organization that, as President Zardawi points out, is responsible for unimaginable suffering in the Muslim world; "Two thousand police officers, as many as 30,000 innocent civilians and a generation of social progress for our people have been lost."

If you think we ought not to celebrate the death of those who call themselves our enemy, that's fine. We (and president Zardawi) disagree. But don't claim that there is some double standard at work here because somewhere, out there in the dark corners of the world, there is someone that thinks that these creatures are heroes and we shouldn't be offending those benighted fools.

... and yet, if we make no effort at all to understand the root causes of those perspectives and actions (hateful though they are), aren't we depriving ourselves of valuable tools we should be using to stamp them out?

As our illustrious leader once said: "They cannot follow you if you are dead."

Ketara wrote:

htj wrote:

Mannahnin wrote:

Bunker wrote:

Worglock wrote:So it's ok as long as certain people think it's ok?

and anyone else can go pound sand right?

Kinda, but no. It's only okay as long as there's a MOD or DCM tag under the person's name.

This is demonstrably untrue, particularly given that folks like Gwar have been DCMs.

That name again. For noob me, it grows in infamy...

Just wait until you hear of Stelek and Mauleed.

UM noob question who's stelek amd mauleed?

Malleus wrote:

Buzzsaw wrote:
If you think we ought not to celebrate the death of those who call themselves our enemy, that's fine. We (and president Zardawi) disagree. But don't claim that there is some double standard at work here because somewhere, out there in the dark corners of the world, there is someone that thinks that these creatures are heroes and we shouldn't be offending those benighted fools.

... and yet, if we make no effort at all to understand the root causes of those perspectives and actions (hateful though they are), aren't we depriving ourselves of valuable tools we should be using to stamp them out?

Objection! Assumes facts not in evidence.

In all seriousness, just as Manchu rightly notes, understanding and mocking are not mutually exclusive. In fact, I would argue that the more we understand such people, the more naturally and fluently comes the mockery of them.


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Manchu wrote:

Buzzsaw wrote:His problem is that he has been indoctrinated into a Murderous Death Cult

How dare you refer to Bin Abaddon's righteous followers as a "Murderous Death Cult." There's a prime example of your Imperium-centric bigotry! Everyone knows that Bin Abaddon did not lead any "Murderous Death Cult." It's ridiculous. The organization's proper name is pretty simple, you corpse-worshiper: Bin Abaddon's 13th Black Crusade of Death and Murder. "Murderous Death Cult," pfft! You really ought to study a bit more about the subject before throwing around these prejudiced and ignorant claims.

Well, fair enough

We can do both, as noted.

I can sympathize with the plight of the Palestinians and support them without wanting to drive the Israelis into the sea or kill Americans for supporting Israel.

I can study and educate myself on the negative impacts of my country's foreign policy, and write to and call my congressional representatives on these issues, while still scorning and mocking those who resort to murder, abandoning constructive and humane attempts at protest and dialogue.

---------------

Back on topic, I for one salute our glorious Warmaster, and am glad Bin Abaddon's body was disposed of so that it can no longer be used as a summoning point for the deadly hordes of Lesser Daemons. Did you know that those things could arrive without scattering anywhere within 6" of him, and immediately assault?! The blessed Emperor's Vanguard have to risk scattering if they want to try that! BAH-roken!

Sounds suspiciously similiar to a story i heard recenty from a few different places.

Though that guy was only made up as he was the fall out guy for another operation that happened a while back that no one knew who to blame.

I also heard there was a war over that but that turn out to be false too.

Dahl Corp. wrote:

Ketara wrote:

htj wrote:

Mannahnin wrote:

Bunker wrote:

Worglock wrote:So it's ok as long as certain people think it's ok?

and anyone else can go pound sand right?

Kinda, but no. It's only okay as long as there's a MOD or DCM tag under the person's name.

This is demonstrably untrue, particularly given that folks like Gwar have been DCMs.

That name again. For noob me, it grows in infamy...

Just wait until you hear of Stelek and Mauleed.

UM noob question who's stelek amd mauleed?

Mauleed superior all others inferior!

On that note actually, Mauleed made his first post the other day since 2009. Hopefully, we'll see a bit more of him.

Frazzled wrote:

Malleus wrote:

Buzzsaw wrote:

beef wrote:

As for the topic, yes its tasteless and brings out varied responses from people. Such is the joy of the interweb.
There is probably a kid in the middle east who plays 40K, His version would have OBL as they hero of the Imperiam sending his space marines to a planet in the eye of Terror. his Marines greatly outmanned and gunned by the Chaos Armies decide the only thing they can do to try and win against such a superior force is to crash their thunderhawks into the 2 Chaos towers and killing all the chaos cultist inside.

Not so funny is it.

See, this is a prime example of an argument that is hard to imagine someone actually trying in real life; if there is a kid out there who genuinely reveres Bin Ladin as a hero, his problem isn't that he's going to be offended by this thread on Dakka...

His problem is that he has been indoctrinated into a Murderous Death Cult (and not the good kind, with the corsets). OBL (or UBL, as you please) didn't represent a slightly different model of economic rights, or a differing level of free speech absolutism, or any of the myriad things politicians argue about; he was the head of a nigh-universally condemned organization devoted to dragging the world back to the 12th century. An organization that, as President Zardawi points out, is responsible for unimaginable suffering in the Muslim world; "Two thousand police officers, as many as 30,000 innocent civilians and a generation of social progress for our people have been lost."

If you think we ought not to celebrate the death of those who call themselves our enemy, that's fine. We (and president Zardawi) disagree. But don't claim that there is some double standard at work here because somewhere, out there in the dark corners of the world, there is someone that thinks that these creatures are heroes and we shouldn't be offending those benighted fools.

... and yet, if we make no effort at all to understand the root causes of those perspectives and actions (hateful though they are), aren't we depriving ourselves of valuable tools we should be using to stamp them out?

As our illustrious leader once said: "They cannot follow you if you are dead."

Don't tell Jesus of Nazareth, who created a movement still going strong 2000 years after his death. He's merely the most convenient example; there are dozens.

Malleus wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

Malleus wrote:

Buzzsaw wrote:

beef wrote:

As for the topic, yes its tasteless and brings out varied responses from people. Such is the joy of the interweb.
There is probably a kid in the middle east who plays 40K, His version would have OBL as they hero of the Imperiam sending his space marines to a planet in the eye of Terror. his Marines greatly outmanned and gunned by the Chaos Armies decide the only thing they can do to try and win against such a superior force is to crash their thunderhawks into the 2 Chaos towers and killing all the chaos cultist inside.

Not so funny is it.

See, this is a prime example of an argument that is hard to imagine someone actually trying in real life; if there is a kid out there who genuinely reveres Bin Ladin as a hero, his problem isn't that he's going to be offended by this thread on Dakka...

His problem is that he has been indoctrinated into a Murderous Death Cult (and not the good kind, with the corsets). OBL (or UBL, as you please) didn't represent a slightly different model of economic rights, or a differing level of free speech absolutism, or any of the myriad things politicians argue about; he was the head of a nigh-universally condemned organization devoted to dragging the world back to the 12th century. An organization that, as President Zardawi points out, is responsible for unimaginable suffering in the Muslim world; "Two thousand police officers, as many as 30,000 innocent civilians and a generation of social progress for our people have been lost."

If you think we ought not to celebrate the death of those who call themselves our enemy, that's fine. We (and president Zardawi) disagree. But don't claim that there is some double standard at work here because somewhere, out there in the dark corners of the world, there is someone that thinks that these creatures are heroes and we shouldn't be offending those benighted fools.

... and yet, if we make no effort at all to understand the root causes of those perspectives and actions (hateful though they are), aren't we depriving ourselves of valuable tools we should be using to stamp them out?

As our illustrious leader once said: "They cannot follow you if you are dead."

Don't tell Jesus of Nazareth, who created a movement still going strong 2000 years after his death. He's merely the most convenient example; there are dozens.

Follow him where?

Worglock wrote:

Mannahnin wrote:If you believe you can legitimately equate any elected official of a democratic nation as approaching OBL's evil, perhaps you need to take a step back and regain some perspective.

This thread is for mocking a specific figure of evil and murder loathed the world over. There is no need or call to debate other political issues here.

President Ahmadinjad of Iran was "elected". Hugo Chavez was "elected". Saddam Hussein was "elected". Kim Jong Il was "elected".


George W. Bush was elected. Twice. Maybe we could have a rousing story about how Commisar Jorge Booshay was swept into position as a high lord of terra after a rogue trader named "Hibold" reprogrammed the tally machines?

This whole premise is still stupid.


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Kilkrazy wrote:

Worglock wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:I thought it was funny.

Would you have thought it was funny if it was a joke involving Imperial forces nailing the Heretic Stronghold of Harushami with a cyclonic torpedo?

No.

So what?

So it's ok as long as certain people think it's ok?

and anyone else can go pound sand right?


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Anyway. I'm off for the day to do something productive (like paint Death Guard Terminators) you guys have a romping good time telling yourselves "Huuurrrrr we made funny huurrrrr."

I have something better for you to do.

Chill the !@#$ out and get off of your high horse.







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Dahl Corp. wrote:

Ketara wrote:

htj wrote:

Mannahnin wrote:

Bunker wrote:

Worglock wrote:So it's ok as long as certain people think it's ok?

and anyone else can go pound sand right?

Kinda, but no. It's only okay as long as there's a MOD or DCM tag under the person's name.

This is demonstrably untrue, particularly given that folks like Gwar have been DCMs.

That name again. For noob me, it grows in infamy...

Just wait until you hear of Stelek and Mauleed.

UM noob question who's stelek amd mauleed?

Remember Rule 1?

Don't talk about !@#$ club.

Sometimes the internet makes me laugh.

Its a joke guys...

Kilkrazy wrote:

Worglock wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:

Worglock wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:I thought it was funny.

Would you have thought it was funny if it was a joke involving Imperial forces nailing the Heretic Stronghold of Harushami with a cyclonic torpedo?

No.

So what?

So it's ok as long as certain people think it's ok?

and anyone else can go pound sand right?

I personally wouldn't find such a joke about Japan funny and I don't think many people would. I don't think you would, I think you are arguing it to make a point, however I think your point is not valid, since there is a difference between a natural disaster and the shooting of a wanted criminal.

There is also topicality. The Abbadon joke would not have been nearly as funny if it wasn't posted so soon after the events it parodies.

There is also community feeling. The majority reaction in this forum is that the joke was a good one. No doubt the reaction in a pro-Al Qaeda forum would be completely different.

I'm sorry that you didn't enjoy it. I have some difficulty in understanding the basis of your outrage, though.

Hiroshima getting nuked was a "natural" disaster? Really? Really? And no. I wouldn't expect too many people finding a joke about the US nuking Japan to be particularly funny. Just Like I personally don't find jokes about Bin Laden funny because:

a) I know someone personally that lost family in that event who later commited suicide. and
b) Because I know someone that lost family in Iraq because we went in there after 9/11 for the wrong damned reasons.

which goes to:

c) The post was made by a personage (you) that can get away with such a posting because of the tag under their name (see also d-ckhead trolling by a former moderator) that wouldn't have been allowed to stand had it been someone with a different tag.

Yeah I know. Welcome to the Fark of miniature wargaming.


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Vitruvian XVII wrote:Sometimes the internet makes me laugh.

Its a joke guys...

oh well. in that case. feth me. I forgot to laugh.

Possibly because, get this:

IT WASN'T FUNNY.

Weird how that works isn't it?

Worglock wrote:

Hiroshima getting nuked was a "natural" disaster? Really? Really? And no. I wouldn't expect too many people finding a joke about the US nuking Japan to be particularly funny. Just Like I personally don't find jokes about Bin Laden funny because:

a) I know someone personally that lost family in that event who later commited suicide. and
b) Because I know someone that lost family in Iraq because we went in there after 9/11 for the wrong damned reasons.

which goes to:

c) The post was made by a personage (you) that can get away with such a posting because of the tag under their name (see also d-ckhead trolling by a former moderator) that wouldn't have been allowed to stand had it been someone with a different tag.

Yeah I know. Welcome to the Fark of miniature wargaming.


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Vitruvian XVII wrote:Sometimes the internet makes me laugh.

Its a joke guys...

oh well. in that case. feth me. I forgot to laugh.

Possibly because, get this:

IT WASN'T FUNNY.

Weird how that works isn't it?

Oh come on, lighten up.


Not you Ketara! Lol at the pic