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Mannahnin wrote:If you believe you can legitimately equate any elected official of a democratic nation as approaching OBL's evil, perhaps you need to take a step back and regain some perspective.

This thread is for mocking a specific figure of evil and murder loathed the world over. There is no need or call to debate other political issues here.

By the world you actually mean America and her allies, I dont think the whole world hated OBL. Alot of ordinary citizens in Africa and the middle east looked up to him. But hell personally i think he died years ago in his mountain caves, but now its coming up to election time and they just went down to the White house celler and pulled his body out from storage. It was probably kept there behind a break glass in emergency sign.

Bush is a hated figure in many parts of the world, can we mock him, 100,000 civilian casualties in Iraq, thats ok because it was an accident right? In the grand skeme of things whats 3000 in NY? From a numbers game. Dead is DEad, do you think it makes a difference to a family member whether there child was killed by a crazy terrorist or by a government that is illegally occupying your country on the grounds of helping you?

Personally I am happy for the American public that they got OBL, (if they actually did and he was not dead for the last 5 years already) They need closure. However what i am not happy about is that they did not capture him alive? Why not, surly they could have if they really wanted to. Maybe a public trial was something the government did not want happening as it might have bought up a few uncomfortable truths.

As for the topic, yes its tasteless and brings out varied responses from people. Such is the joy of the interweb.
There is probably a kid in the middle east who plays 40K, His version would have OBL as they hero of the Imperiam sending his space marines to a planet in the eye of Terror. his Marines greatly outmanned and gunned by the Chaos Armies decide the only thing they can do to try and win against such a superior force is to crash their thunderhawks into the 2 Chaos towers and killing all the chaos cultist inside.

Not so funny is it.

Bush is a hated figure in many parts of the world, can we mock him

... yeah, the internet really missed a trick there. You'd think that somewhere along the line someone would have made fun of him in some war or other. Yet another missed oppurtunity, thanks a lot internet !

I am also somewhat skeptical about the number of Islamic fundamentalists and Taliban loyalists who are into 40K to be honest.

.. something else we can blame Mat ward for no doubt !

I think I said middle eastern Kid playing 40K, I did NOT say Talibam or extremist or does middle eastern kid equate to Fundamemtalist/extremist?

And Its not Matt Wards fault, apparently he is very respected in the Arab world.

On a side note GW products are sold all over the middle east.

beef wrote:I think I said middle eastern Kid playing 40K, I did NOT say Talibam or extremist or does middle eastern kid equate to Fundamemtalist/extremist?

All the people I know in the M.E. who play 40K/warhammer though OBL was a massive tool.

I think you're severely mistaken with regards to the crossover between those who play a game that openly features Gods, daemons and the like, and those who support Islamic fundamentalists.

On a side note GW products are sold all over the middle east.

"All over" is somewhat of an exaggeration, but they are available.

For your convenience we have listed the known retailers of Games Workshop and other relevant games in the Middle-East.



United Arab Emirates

Dubai:
Park'n Shop - on Al Wasl Road, near Safa Park (Jumeirah)
Magrudy's Dubai Festival City - Dubai Festival City, skywalk, level 2
Magrudy's Ibn Battuta - Ibn Battuta Shopping Mall (click for location)
Magrudy's Jumeirah - Beach Road, Jumeirah 1, after Beach Center
Magrudy's Deira City Center - opening soon

Abu Dhabi:
Magurdy's Al Wahda Mall - Al Wahda Mall, Abu Dhabi (click for location)

Direct Orders and enquiries:
Magrudy's: +971-4-3444009, franz.russell [at] magrudy.com
Park'n Shop: +971-50-9116129, bishop.tmvc [at] gmail.com

Kuwait

location opening soon - please contact Hesham (kuwait.hobby [at] gmail.com) for direct orders and enquiries

Lebanon

Location opening soon in Beirut

Qatar

Location opening soon in Doha

Oman

Location opening soon

That's not exactly widespread IMO.

And Its not Matt Wards fault, apparently he is very respected in the Arab world.

.. ah, you nearly had me !

This is total gak straight from the administratum. WE DEMAND THE LONG FORM DEATH CERTIFICATE!

reds8n wrote:

beef wrote:I think I said middle eastern Kid playing 40K, I did NOT say Talibam or extremist or does middle eastern kid equate to Fundamemtalist/extremist?

All the people I know in the M.E. who play 40K/warhammer though OBL was a massive tool.

I think you're severely mistaken with regards to the crossover between those who play a game that openly features Gods, daemons and the like, and those who support Islamic fundamentalists.

I think they'd have a soft spot for the Inquisition!

also

This thread is for mocking a specific figure of evil and murder loathed the world over. There is no need or call to debate other political issues here.

So when Bush dies if I make a thread lauding that, it will be ok?

It made me smile, and I needed that, this morning started off rough.... I had to filter my tea, as my first pick has milk in the bottom

Oh look, it's just like off-topic now.

Thanks Mr Obvious.

I think I said middle eastern Kid playing 40K, I did NOT say Talibam or extremist or does middle eastern kid equate to Fundamemtalist/extremist?

Extremist is one thing but oh, you would be surprised if you really looked at all the polls made on how the average ME person views "us".

So when Bush dies if I make a thread lauding that, it will be ok?

Do so. However unless you do it on a ME 40k forum I dont think you´ll find that many people seeing it as overly fun.
But then again we DO have the rights to criticize and mock our leaders over here without any fear of getting lynched... I find that quite refreshing, dont you?

Now can we please have a humor thread about the demise of a certain enemy of the US left for what it is without the oversensitive moral high ground crowd ruining it all or does every thread of such nature really need a legal disclaimer attached saying that indeed all other evil persons/nations/deeds are in no way omitted etc etc.
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BrookM wrote:Oh look, it's just like off-topic now.

Lol @ reds8n, legoburner, and Ketara's posts... good show chaps

I think some of that English humor needs to rub off on us over here!

Ketara wrote:

BrookM wrote:Oh look, it's just like off-topic now.

Its like a japanese Jedward... Now there is someone everyone can hate.

Don't fret, fellow Chaos cultists! The tasteless lies of that Imperial running dog Kid_Kyoto will never defeat our Ruinous Cause! Remember: 72 daemonettes await you in the Warp! (No guarantees about them being virgins, however.)

BIN ABADDON LIVES!

Paul wrote:
Its like a japanese Jedward... Now there is someone everyone can hate.

Haha right, I think if the FBI based it's 'most wanted' lists off of public opinion, Jedward would be number one or at least near the top.

I can't see anyone objecting to a US special forces hit-squad going on a search and destroy mission for those guys..

Don't fret, fellow Chaos cultists! The tasteless lies of that Imperial running dog Kid_Kyoto will never defeat our Ruinous Cause! Remember: 72 daemonettes await you in the Warp! (No guarantees about them being virgins, however.)

Thanks for reminding me of this..

Kilkrazy wrote:I thought it was funny.

Would you have thought it was funny if it was a joke involving Imperial forces nailing the Heretic Stronghold of Harushami with a cyclonic torpedo?

Worglock wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:I thought it was funny.

Would you have thought it was funny if it was a joke involving Imperial forces nailing the Heretic Stronghold of Harushami with a cyclonic torpedo?

Dude, this is the internet; there have been off-color 911 jokes forever. Google it and try to take things a little less seriously or, barring that, don't read threads that you know will upset you.

agnosto wrote:

Worglock wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:I thought it was funny.

Would you have thought it was funny if it was a joke involving Imperial forces nailing the Heretic Stronghold of Harushami with a cyclonic torpedo?

Dude, this is the internet; there have been off-color 911 jokes forever. Google it and try to take things a little less seriously or, barring that, don't read threads that you know will upset you.

So you're saying that on September 11th I can go an post some poorly cobbled garbage celebrating the 11th Anniversary of valiant Squat Freedom fighters that crashed their mecha-zeppilins into the "Imperial Commerce Plaza" of "Munhutten" and we'd be cool with it and I wouldn't get banned for it?

This is a yes or no question.

(Yes, the goat fether is dead, I'm glad he's dead and hope he rots in hell on the business end of one of Slannesh's tentacle beasts. That doesn't mean it's appropriate for a toy soldiers forum. And it certainly doesn't mean it's appropriate for someone that is a direct representative of the website to be the on to post it.)

Worglock wrote:
So you're saying that on September 11th I can go an post some poorly cobbled garbage celebrating the 11th Anniversary of valiant Squat Freedom fighters that crashed their mecha-zeppilins into the "Imperial Commerce Plaza" of "Munhutten" and we'd be cool with it and I wouldn't get banned for it?

I think you're on to a promising start there...

reds8n wrote:
.. something else we can blame Mat ward for no doubt !

lol

Worglock wrote:
So you're saying that on September 11th I can go an post some poorly cobbled garbage celebrating the 11th Anniversary of valiant Squat Freedom fighters that crashed their mecha-zeppilins into the "Imperial Commerce Plaza" of "Munhutten" and we'd be cool with it and I wouldn't get banned for it?

This is a yes or no question.

(Yes, the goat fether is dead, I'm glad he's dead and hope he rots in hell on the business end of one of Slannesh's tentacle beasts. That doesn't mean it's appropriate for a toy soldiers forum. And it certainly doesn't mean it's appropriate for someone that is a direct representative of the website to be the on to post it.)

Don't get me wrong, I understand your point but I think this is an apples/oranges argument because the death of one is not equal to the deaths of thousands so comparing the two events is not going to get your point across. More like, compare this to the death of Princess Diana or the assassination of JFK that would be more appropriate.

I still think that being vilified makes a difference, especially considering this is an English-based, mostly Western internet board. If I could read Arabic, I'm sure there would be all sorts of hate thrown around. Venue makes a difference; there were people rejoicing in S. Korea after 911, I lived there at the time and was a bit baffled because some Koreans died in the towers.... In fact, there were celebrations all over the world when the towers fall so I doubt you'll find too many peope with any sympathy.

agnosto wrote:

Worglock wrote:
So you're saying that on September 11th I can go an post some poorly cobbled garbage celebrating the 11th Anniversary of valiant Squat Freedom fighters that crashed their mecha-zeppilins into the "Imperial Commerce Plaza" of "Munhutten" and we'd be cool with it and I wouldn't get banned for it?

This is a yes or no question.

(Yes, the goat fether is dead, I'm glad he's dead and hope he rots in hell on the business end of one of Slannesh's tentacle beasts. That doesn't mean it's appropriate for a toy soldiers forum. And it certainly doesn't mean it's appropriate for someone that is a direct representative of the website to be the on to post it.)

Don't get me wrong, I understand your point but I think this is an apples/oranges argument because the death of one is not equal to the deaths of thousands so comparing the two events is not going to get your point across. More like, compare this to the death of Princess Diana or the assassination of JFK that would be more appropriate.

I still think that being vilified makes a difference, especially considering this is an English-based, mostly Western internet board. If I could read Arabic, I'm sure there would be all sorts of hate thrown around. Venue makes a difference; there were people rejoicing in S. Korea after 911, I lived there at the time and was a bit baffled because some Koreans died in the towers.... In fact, there were celebrations all over the world when the towers fall so I doubt you'll find too many peope with any sympathy.

I'm not sure that you do understand my point. My point is that "changing the name" does not make it "good parody" and it certainly doesn't make it "on topic" to a forum regarding "toy soldiers".

I'd also expect better from someone that's a representative with authority on this site, because I believe that had it been someone with a different tag, this thread would have been locked before it got to 10 replies.


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Manchu wrote:Don't fret, fellow Chaos cultists! The tasteless lies of that Imperial running dog Kid_Kyoto will never defeat our Ruinous Cause! Remember: 72 daemonettes await you in the Warp! (No guarantees about them being virgins, however.)

BIN ABADDON LIVES!

But only if you blow up a bus full of dirty Jokaero settlers on the West Bank of Jur'Doon right?

Worglock wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:I thought it was funny.

Would you have thought it was funny if it was a joke involving Imperial forces nailing the Heretic Stronghold of Harushami with a cyclonic torpedo?

No.

So what?

Phototoxin wrote:"I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy. Returning hate for hate multiplies hate, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars."

Hehe, nice to see an example of how fake quotes spread: this particular one is notable for how quickly it not only spread, but was found out. While the second sentence is attributable to Martin Luther King Jr., the first is... Jessica Dovey, "a 24-year old Penn State graduate who now teaches English to middle schoolers in Kobe, Japan".

From Dovey's Facebook page, to Penn Jillette's twitter feed, to Dakka in the blink of an eye (of Terror)!

Mannahnin wrote:If you believe you can legitimately equate any elected official of a democratic nation as approaching OBL's evil, perhaps you need to take a step back and regain some perspective.

This thread is for mocking a specific figure of evil and murder loathed the world over. There is no need or call to debate other political issues here.

President Ahmadinjad of Iran was "elected". Hugo Chavez was "elected". Saddam Hussein was "elected". Kim Jong Il was "elected".


George W. Bush was elected. Twice. Maybe we could have a rousing story about how Commisar Jorge Booshay was swept into position as a high lord of terra after a rogue trader named "Hibold" reprogrammed the tally machines?

This whole premise is still stupid.


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Kilkrazy wrote:

Worglock wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:I thought it was funny.

Would you have thought it was funny if it was a joke involving Imperial forces nailing the Heretic Stronghold of Harushami with a cyclonic torpedo?

No.

So what?

So it's ok as long as certain people think it's ok?

and anyone else can go pound sand right?


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Anyway. I'm off for the day to do something productive (like paint Death Guard Terminators) you guys have a romping good time telling yourselves "Huuurrrrr we made funny huurrrrr."

In another part of the Galaxy the citizens of Charadon were up in arms with protests next to the communal drop.

This citizen (pictured here holding aloft a burning effergy of a corpse god on a golden toilet) had this to say.

"We 'az bin robbed! 'E waz wun of da onlee tuff Humies left an youff wasted 'im. wARRRGH!" Back to that feed when we re-establish contact with our correspondent. Back to you Kenius in the studio.


[It was kinda-funny then K_K upped the game with the picture of the skull fortress. Then it hit a low note with this post. Lighten up people: one more skull for the pile]

Worglock wrote:

George W. Bush was elected. Twice. Maybe we could have a rousing story about how Commisar Jorge Booshay was swept into position as a high lord of terra after a rogue trader named "Hibold" reprogrammed the tally machines?

This whole premise is still stupid.

Sure, shut up and do it. No one cares (unless its not funny, then we'll care a lot). But please, oh please just quit talking out your pie hole already Captain Buzzkill.

The "compound" made me laugh so hard!

Worglock wrote:

So it's ok as long as certain people think it's ok?

and anyone else can go pound sand right?

Kinda, but no. It's only okay as long as there's a MOD or DCM tag under the person's name.

Then anyone else can go pound sand.


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Frazzled wrote:

Worglock wrote:

George W. Bush was elected. Twice. Maybe we could have a rousing story about how Commisar Jorge Booshay was swept into position as a high lord of terra after a rogue trader named "Hibold" reprogrammed the tally machines?

This whole premise is still stupid.

Sure, shut up and do it. No one cares (unless its not funny, then we'll care a lot). But please, oh please just quit talking out your pie hole already Captain Buzzkill.

Look at you flaming twice in this thread without repercussions.

Good to see the culture of favoritism is still alive and well here at Dakka

Bunker wrote:

Worglock wrote:

So it's ok as long as certain people think it's ok?

and anyone else can go pound sand right?

Kinda, but no. It's only okay as long as there's a MOD or DCM tag under the person's name.

Then anyone else can go pound sand.

See if you were a DCM, not only would you be served grapes by raven haired nymphs, but all your threads would be automatically bumped every hour, and you would get the keys to the corporate washroom.

Would you have thought it was funny..?

No.

So it's ok as long as certain people think it's ok?

Bit of an extrapolation there. Let me fix that.

Would you have thought it was funny..?

No.

So it's funny as long as certain people think it's funny?

That's better. Still not quite according to the scientific method, but we're getting closer.

Bunker wrote:

Worglock wrote:

So it's ok as long as certain people think it's ok?

and anyone else can go pound sand right?

Kinda, but no. It's only okay as long as there's a MOD or DCM tag under the person's name.

Then anyone else can go pound sand.


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Frazzled wrote:

Worglock wrote:

George W. Bush was elected. Twice. Maybe we could have a rousing story about how Commisar Jorge Booshay was swept into position as a high lord of terra after a rogue trader named "Hibold" reprogrammed the tally machines?

This whole premise is still stupid.

Sure, shut up and do it. No one cares (unless its not funny, then we'll care a lot). But please, oh please just quit talking out your pie hole already Captain Buzzkill.

Look at you flaming twice in this thread without repercussions.

Good to see the culture of favoritism is still alive and well here at Dakka

Thats not flaming. Thats proferring to the poster to quit bellyaching and do it. Thats the problem with today's youth, you'd rather sit around typing on your newfangled Banana Isods and complain, then get out and work. I mean KK took literally minutes to come up with the OP. Thats way beyond what the complaining complainer is willing to do.