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2011/05/03 13:18:41
Subject: Ezekyle Bin Abaddon killed in daring raid
Take home message from this thread- just post stuff like this in the DCM section, where (ideally) people can handle it...
To all of those "offended" by making light of the death of a terrorist leader who intentionally targetted, killed, and continued to plan to kill thousands of innocent civilians in many countries... well, I feel a bit bad for you, actually.
Particularly those commenting on "US" things. This makes the world a safer place... any reasonable person will be happy that this mass murderer is no longer in the world.
And as I said above, making light of these things helps me (and many others) cope with the hard reality of it all.
If you can't get the joke, maybe you need to step back and (as has been reiterated many times) relax... or maybe it's step down (off that moral high horse).
2011/05/03 14:11:54
Subject: Re:Ezekyle Bin Abaddon killed in daring raid
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2011/05/03 15:19:07
Subject: Ezekyle Bin Abaddon killed in daring raid
It was funny, and +1 Pacific's post. It was meant to be light hearted and funny. I don't believe it was in bad form at all. The OP was just expressing their way to cope with the death of an international terrorist's death. Ya know, the guy who planned the killing of thousands...
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2011/05/03 16:45:16
Subject: Ezekyle Bin Abaddon killed in daring raid
Extremely well writen and it's obvious that you stuck to the news headlines and took care to not editorialize in a way that would offend the right or the left.
It's a lie, K_K, pure Imperial propaganda. Where's the Talon of Horus, huh? Plus everyone knows the Imperium planned and carried out the invasion of Cadia itself. Bin Abaddon was just a convenient scapegoat.
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2011/05/03 17:40:34
Subject: Ezekyle Bin Abaddon killed in daring raid
As a United States Marine who has fought on numerous occasions in iraq this is hilarious and to those who dont care for it oh well. Bottom line is we finally mercked this guy and were happy about it. Also just pointing this out a majority of those who dont agree are not american. Most havent liked this from the beggining so who cares.
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2011/05/03 18:12:52
Subject: Re:Ezekyle Bin Abaddon killed in daring raid
As a Cadian I am both relieved and ashamed. Relief for the death of a known enemy to the Imperium, ashamed that he has been hiding in our own backyard! I fear the hangman will be making a lot of house calls these coming days.
In all seriousness, he's dead, we're happy. We had chocolate chip cookies and then some to celebrate.
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2011/05/03 18:14:24
Subject: Re:Ezekyle Bin Abaddon killed in daring raid
BrookM wrote:As a Cadian I am both relieved and ashamed. Relief for the death of a known enemy to the Imperium, ashamed that he has been hiding in our own backyard! I fear the hangman will be making a lot of house calls these coming days.
In all seriousness, he's dead, we're happy. We had chocolate chip cookies and then some to celebrate.
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2011/05/03 18:18:51
Subject: Re:Ezekyle Bin Abaddon killed in daring raid
To anyone unsure whether mocking a hated figure of evil is okay, I would like to point out that it has been tradition for centuries, at least. Bonaparte was frequently called "Old Boney", and mocked. There's a song mocking Hitler which I learned as a child, decades later. Actually, more than one...
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Manchu wrote:It's a lie, K_K, pure Imperial propaganda. Where's the Talon of Horus, huh? Plus everyone knows the Imperium planned and carried out the invasion of Cadia itself. Bin Abaddon was just a convenient scapegoat.
Genius. Sheer, unadulterated genius. And now part of my sig.
Going to be serious now.
To those who think OBL doesn't merit mockery because his death is a serious topic, I understand where you're coming from and I have some sympathy with your view. As a man with a soul, which Jesus loved and is grieved to see damned (most faiths may insert different phrasing of an equivalent concept here to the same effect), I will not celebrate OBL's death, nor mock him.
However, OBL was not merely (perhaps not even mostly) dangerous in his own person. In some sense, he was a symbol of a hateful and loathsome ideology, and a totemic inspiration to a vast, frenzied murder cult, whose morale (and therefore effectiveness) will consequently be noticeably diminished by his death. As a symbol, it is permissible, and in my view morally incumbent upon us, to mock him, to ridicule his views and actions, to revile and abuse him. His views and actions partly derived their success from the fact that everyone, his friends and foes, take them seriously. I believe that to mock the ideology of death, and its symbol, shows that we disdain the death cult, and view it as unworthy of our efforts at serious intellectual exchange. Those who do violence to bring them closer to heaven, those who inflict death and misery in the name of the divine Author of life and joy, merit mockery rather than respect, fury rather than patience, public humiliation rather than dignity. And anybody, starting with the OP here, who gives it to them gets my applause; he strikes a blow on the side of right.
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Manchu wrote:It's a lie, K_K, pure Imperial propaganda. Where's the Talon of Horus, huh? Plus everyone knows the Imperium planned and carried out the invasion of Cadia itself. Bin Abaddon was just a convenient scapegoat.
2011/05/03 18:41:50
Subject: Re:Ezekyle Bin Abaddon killed in daring raid
NELS1031 wrote:Do I need to lighten up or is this tasteless? Alot of people died throughout the world because of this dude(OBL).
Can I make a 40k themed story about the planet Jaypon being caught in a freak Warp Storm then what was left was contaminated by Warp energy, thereby dooming survivors to generations of warp energy exposure and possibly mutations/cancers? Is that totally cool and clever?
I'm going for cute here, mildly amusing.
Mocking our enemies has an old and honored tradition, look up some WWII Disney or Looney Tunes cartoons some time to see what I mean. I kind of like the idea of Osama Bin Laden as a cartoonish Cobra Commander type villain in his evil fortress of evil being undone by heroic navy SEALs. After 10+ years of fearing this man lurking in the shadows with fanatical terrorists and suicide bombers, I enjoyed the idea of turning him into an ineffective joke.
Sorry if it offended.
And one difference between the Sendai tsunami and Osama is first the Sendai disaster is ongoing while Osama is being eaten by fish. Which is also why I wouldn't use Gaddafi this way. Second there's no human being to mock in the Sendai disaster, only vast impersonal forces of nature. So I don't think it would work.
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2011/05/03 18:50:49
Subject: Re:Ezekyle Bin Abaddon killed in daring raid
Malleus wrote:However, OBL was not merely (perhaps not even mostly) dangerous in his own person. In some sense, he was a symbol of a hateful and loathsome ideology, and a totemic inspiration to a vast, frenzied murder cult, whose morale (and therefore effectiveness) will consequently be noticeably diminished by his death. As a symbol, it is permissible, and in my view morally incumbent upon us, to mock him, to ridicule his views and actions, to revile and abuse him. His views and actions partly derived their success from the fact that everyone, his friends and foes, take them seriously. I believe that to mock the ideology of death, and its symbol, shows that we disdain the death cult, and view it as unworthy of our efforts at serious intellectual exchange. Those who do violence to bring them closer to heaven, those who inflict death and misery in the name of the divine Author of life and joy, merit mockery rather than respect, fury rather than patience, public humiliation rather than dignity. And anybody, starting with the OP here, who gives it to them gets my applause; he strikes a blow on the sight of right.
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Eloquently written, sir.
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Malleus wrote:However, OBL was not merely (perhaps not even mostly) dangerous in his own person. In some sense, he was a symbol of a hateful and loathsome ideology, and a totemic inspiration to a vast, frenzied murder cult, whose morale (and therefore effectiveness) will consequently be noticeably diminished by his death. As a symbol, it is permissible, and in my view morally incumbent upon us, to mock him, to ridicule his views and actions, to revile and abuse him. His views and actions partly derived their success from the fact that everyone, his friends and foes, take them seriously. I believe that to mock the ideology of death, and its symbol, shows that we disdain the death cult, and view it as unworthy of our efforts at serious intellectual exchange. Those who do violence to bring them closer to heaven, those who inflict death and misery in the name of the divine Author of life and joy, merit mockery rather than respect, fury rather than patience, public humiliation rather than dignity. And anybody, starting with the OP here, who gives it to them gets my applause; he strikes a blow on the side of right.
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Eloquently written, sir.
Thank you. I feel pretty strongly about it; it's inspiring.
Manchu wrote:It's a lie, K_K, pure Imperial propaganda. Where's the Talon of Horus, huh? Plus everyone knows the Imperium planned and carried out the invasion of Cadia itself. Bin Abaddon was just a convenient scapegoat.
2011/05/03 19:19:06
Subject: Ezekyle Bin Abaddon killed in daring raid
Hilarious. If we are to live in the empirical society that we see ourselves moving into, why not crack a smile at our sworn enemies... I mean those that we want to subjugate. Because afterall are we not the best around yes no ones gonna keep us down.
2011/05/03 19:46:00
Subject: Re:Ezekyle Bin Abaddon killed in daring raid
It's a lie, K_K, pure Imperial propaganda. Where's the Talon of Horus, huh? Plus everyone knows the Imperium planned and carried out the invasion of Cadia itself. Bin Abaddon was just a convenient scapegoat.
Pfft, even more lies I tell ya. We all know Bin Abbaddon was really an invention by the high lords of terra, there was no bin abbaddon to start with (I see no dead body)
However, OBL was not merely (perhaps not even mostly) dangerous in his own person. In some sense, he was a symbol of a hateful and loathsome ideology, and a totemic inspiration to a vast, frenzied murder cult, whose morale (and therefore effectiveness) will consequently be noticeably diminished by his death. As a symbol, it is permissible, and in my view morally incumbent upon us, to mock him, to ridicule his views and actions, to revile and abuse him. His views and actions partly derived their success from the fact that everyone, his friends and foes, take them seriously. I believe that to mock the ideology of death, and its symbol, shows that we disdain the death cult, and view it as unworthy of our efforts at serious intellectual exchange. Those who do violence to bring them closer to heaven, those who inflict death and misery in the name of the divine Author of life and joy, merit mockery rather than respect, fury rather than patience, public humiliation rather than dignity. And anybody, starting with the OP here, who gives it to them gets my applause; he strikes a blow on the side of right.
Boy I am so glad for your own sake that you dont live in quasi-communist Sweden or else you would be called a "racist" by now. You see political correctness is literarily seeping out from the ground you walk on here *sigh*
In other words +1 to your post.
Infact I am impressed with the number of people round here who feel that any human being, no matter what they have done, deserve some basic dignity.
Now I dont really get you here, you mean that bin abbaddon was a "human being"?
Other then a slight resemblance to one from a distance I just cant see the dots.
You see, "humans" have something called empathy, they dont go around wishing to slaughter thousands of innocent people and/or imposing their own sick ideologies on them...but hey, thats just me.
Come to think about it, there is allot of people who are offended by what we do, because it is pretend violence and war.
Then screw them. Are they with those kind of ideas about you and your toy soldier hobby really worth a second thought or recognition? Want me to cater to their hurt feelings about me having a game of toy soldiers with a friend?
What´s the next step, there are people out there who want to forbid school children from running because running might cause you to trip and break a leg.
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2011/05/03 20:02:41
Subject: Re:Ezekyle Bin Abaddon killed in daring raid
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