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2011/07/18 06:30:32
Subject: I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music
Just go look up some Metal Church or Black Flag. Just branch out, find what you love, and go with it. Oh and by the way, look up some Overkill while your at it.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Just go look up some Metal Church or Black Flag. Just branch out, find what you love, and go with it. Oh and by the way, look up some Overkill while your at it.
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Emperors Faithful wrote:
metallifan wrote:Maybe it's not the ROFLSTOMP that Americans are used to...
Best summary of foeign policy. Ever.
2011/07/18 07:26:39
Subject: Re:I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music
Very brief but actually pretty good. Welcome to the underground.
Check the broadcast section. They aren't gonna tell you what station. But any college station is going to be playing real music. You have to find it yourself. DIY. Do it yourself.
Wow, well I migth not be in with the "inn" crowd when it comes to musical choices, but here are some bands I find worth lisening to.
- BattleLore
- Amon Amarth
- Sabaton
- Enslaved
- Wolves Like Us
2011/07/18 21:27:54
Subject: Re:I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music
Very brief but actually pretty good. Welcome to the underground.
Check the broadcast section. They aren't gonna tell you what station. But any college station is going to be playing real music. You have to find it yourself. DIY. Do it yourself.
Try MaximumRocknRoll Radio. Turn it up loud
Good to see MRR is still alive and kicking, I still have stacks of their publication from back in the Tim Yohanah days .
I'll have to look back in on their goings on...
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
2011/07/18 21:42:03
Subject: I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music
There is plenty of good rap music at the moment, personally i am not a fan but Tyler the Creator / Odd future Wolfgang are pretty brave/unique musically and lyrically.
Plus don't be bashing Eminem, his first album is great, the lyrics are actually hilarious in a totally puerile and reprehensible way.
Oh and you haven't heard garbage music 'till you've worked in a supermarket. Their playlists are compiled by Satan himself. Suffice it to say th songs are so bad Enrique Englesias' 'escape' is IMO the pick of the bunch
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Mary Sue wrote: Perkustin is even more awesome than me!
2011/07/18 21:49:22
Subject: I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music
Perkustin wrote:There is plenty of good rap music at the moment, personally i am not a fan but Tyler the Creator / Odd future Wolfgang are pretty brave/unique musically and lyrically.
Plus don't be bashing Eminem, his first album is great, the lyrics are actually hilarious in a totally puerile and reprehensible way.
Oh and you haven't heard garbage music 'till you've worked in a supermarket. Their playlists are compiled by Satan himself. Suffice it to say th songs are so bad Enrique Englesias' 'escape' is IMO the pick of the bunch
I actually like the first few Eminem albums, made me chuckle quite a bit, but as far as most Rap/Hip Hop...haven't heard much that I like since the mid 90's...it all just seems a bit "cookie cutter" now.
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
2011/07/18 21:50:10
Subject: I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music
GalacticDefender wrote:Lady Gaga said Iron Maiden was her favorite band. Weird, huh?
Not really.
Quote Gene Simmons: "She's not Lady Gaga, she's really Lady Kiss. I love the vibe, the big mouth and the big visuals. She's the most exciting thing to happen since us."
Quote Slash: "The person people would probably be surprised to find that I like is Lady Gaga."
And there's lots more
Wow is Gene Simmons really that full of gak? There are tons more bands who are more exciting than KISS.
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2011/07/18 22:03:05
Subject: I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music
GalacticDefender wrote:Lady Gaga said Iron Maiden was her favorite band. Weird, huh?
Not really.
Quote Gene Simmons: "She's not Lady Gaga, she's really Lady Kiss. I love the vibe, the big mouth and the big visuals. She's the most exciting thing to happen since us."
Quote Slash: "The person people would probably be surprised to find that I like is Lady Gaga."
And there's lots more
Wow is Gene Simmons really that full of gak? There are tons more bands who are more exciting than KISS.
Gene Simmons IS that full of gak...but you have to look at things from his perspective .
During the 70's..a lot of "Mainstream music" was ( arguably) very dull...particularly live concerts.( Hence the punk backlash)...
KISS...in it's early years introduced an element of showmanship and theatrics into musical performance that was seldom seen prior to them.
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
2011/07/18 22:11:43
Subject: I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music
GalacticDefender wrote:Lady Gaga said Iron Maiden was her favorite band. Weird, huh?
Not really.
Quote Gene Simmons: "She's not Lady Gaga, she's really Lady Kiss. I love the vibe, the big mouth and the big visuals. She's the most exciting thing to happen since us."
Quote Slash: "The person people would probably be surprised to find that I like is Lady Gaga."
And there's lots more
Wow is Gene Simmons really that full of gak? There are tons more bands who are more exciting than KISS.
Gene Simmons IS that full of gak...but you have to look at things from his perspective .
During the 70's..a lot of "Mainstream music" was ( arguably) very dull...particularly live concerts.( Hence the punk backlash)...
KISS...in it's early years introduced an element of showmanship and theatrics into musical performance that was seldom seen prior to them.
70's mainstream music is dull? I wouldn't call Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Jethro Tull, etc boring to listen to.
2011/07/18 22:21:11
Subject: I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music
No, neither would I...but what I'm talking about is performance...the actual concerts..
A lot of the bands were a bit " dull" watching them live..that's what I'm getting at.
KISS ...in the context in which Simmons is refering, put on a " Show".
If you saw Sabbath live...you saw this...
If you went to see KISS...you got this..
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I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
2011/07/18 22:31:19
Subject: I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music
FITZZ wrote: No, neither would I...but what I'm talking about is performance...the actual concerts..
A lot of the bands were a bit " dull" watching them live..that's what I'm getting at.
KISS ...in the context in which Simmons is refering, put on a " Show".
Yeah, I can agree with that most of the time it's just watching musicians playing awesome songs in front of a screaming crowd who can barely hear anything. You might get a few guys jumping about making weird
hand gestures/body movements but that's about it.
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2011/07/18 22:38:14
Subject: I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music
FITZZ wrote: No, neither would I...but what I'm talking about is performance...the actual concerts..
A lot of the bands were a bit " dull" watching them live..that's what I'm getting at.
KISS ...in the context in which Simmons is refering, put on a " Show".
Yeah, I can agree with that most of the time it's just watching musicians playing awesome songs in front of a screaming crowd. You might get a few guys jumping about making weird hand gestures/body
movements but that's about it.
Exactly, there where plenty of bands with more musical talent then KISS...but Performance wise...KISS blew them away...
That's one of the reasons that in the 80's you had so many bands copying KISS' theatrics...KISS filled stadiums and made millions ...these other bands wanted to do the same.
I am both selfish and chaotic. I value self-gratification and control; I want to have things my way, preferably now. At best, I'm entertaining and surprising; at worst, I'm hedonistic and violent.
2011/07/18 22:44:51
Subject: I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music
No offence Soldarin but that first song you link + the video looks and sounds like a Tim and Eric's Awesome Show parody of modern music. Which isnt necessarily a good thing.
Mary Sue wrote: Perkustin is even more awesome than me!
2011/07/19 04:07:04
Subject: I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music
GalacticDefender wrote:Lady Gaga said Iron Maiden was her favorite band. Weird, huh?
Not really.
Quote Gene Simmons: "She's not Lady Gaga, she's really Lady Kiss. I love the vibe, the big mouth and the big visuals. She's the most exciting thing to happen since us."
Quote Slash: "The person people would probably be surprised to find that I like is Lady Gaga."
And there's lots more
Wow is Gene Simmons really that full of gak? There are tons more bands who are more exciting than KISS.
Gene Simmons IS that full of gak...but you have to look at things from his perspective .
During the 70's..a lot of "Mainstream music" was ( arguably) very dull...particularly live concerts.( Hence the punk backlash)...
KISS...in it's early years introduced an element of showmanship and theatrics into musical performance that was seldom seen prior to them.
70's mainstream music is dull? I wouldn't call Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Jethro Tull, etc boring to listen to.
They weren't really mainstream though, all of those bands got extensive Airplay on FM when AM still ruled the radio. Now they're mainstream because the mainstream music of the 70's (pop & disco) cannot hold up at all in today's world compared to those bands you listed. Black Sabbath was the red headed step child of Hard Rock, Rolling stone called their first 3 albums "trash" effectively and it was because they didn't play the game with the media, and suffered because of it. Look at Rush, they weren't mainstream until very recently and still aren't for the most part. Any "mainstream" Pink Floyd fan can name a handful of songs, a true dedicated fan can rattle off Syd Barret era music like a champ. Jethro Tull was a side act at best for a lot of people, even though they freaking rule. Deep Purple was one of the best bands of the era (along with Rainbow). BOC was the gak. KISS was cheesy but they could still make pretty decent music.
Here's one of my favorite Black Sabbath Tracks, completely and almost lost to history...almost:
Catachan LIX "Lords Of Destruction" - Put Away
1943-1944 Era 1250 point Großdeutchland Force - Bolt Action
"The best medicine for Wraithlords? Multilasers. The best way to kill an Avatar? Lasguns."
"Time to pour out some liquor for the pinkmisted Harlequins"
Res Ipsa Loquitor
2011/07/19 04:19:55
Subject: I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music
Karon wrote:Hip-Hop or Rap (they are the same damn thing) has fallen off recently, the vast majority is just gak.
The old artists are still making good records for the most part (Wu-Tang, Ice Cube, Bone Thugs, soon DMX)
All the so called "Hip-Hop" in today's thinking, is all trash.
That's so wrong, hip-hop, true hip-hop is an infusion between instrumentals and beats. Hip-hop is more about the background music and poetry, which may or may not discuss issues within the black community/politics/society/hardship. so, that being said, I'm guessing you've never heard of nujabes, jurrasic 5, immortal technique, or ski beatz then?
Nujabes, with cise starr doing vocals
Here's a list of good hip-hop artists:
Nujabes
Jurassic 5
Ski beatz
DJ ezasscul
Taku
Immortal technique
14
Godsense
Hai le Common market
Foreign exchange
Gold panda
captain fantastic wrote: Seems like this thread is all that's left of Remilia Scarlet (the poster).
wait, what? Σ(・□・;)
2011/07/19 19:11:56
Subject: I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music
GalacticDefender wrote:Lady Gaga said Iron Maiden was her favorite band. Weird, huh?
Not really.
Quote Gene Simmons: "She's not Lady Gaga, she's really Lady Kiss. I love the vibe, the big mouth and the big visuals. She's the most exciting thing to happen since us."
Quote Slash: "The person people would probably be surprised to find that I like is Lady Gaga."
And there's lots more
Wow is Gene Simmons really that full of gak? There are tons more bands who are more exciting than KISS.
Gene Simmons IS that full of gak...but you have to look at things from his perspective .
During the 70's..a lot of "Mainstream music" was ( arguably) very dull...particularly live concerts.( Hence the punk backlash)...
KISS...in it's early years introduced an element of showmanship and theatrics into musical performance that was seldom seen prior to them.
70's mainstream music is dull? I wouldn't call Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Jethro Tull, etc boring to listen to.
They weren't really mainstream though, all of those bands got extensive Airplay on FM when AM still ruled the radio. Now they're mainstream because the mainstream music of the 70's (pop & disco) cannot hold up at all in today's world compared to those bands you listed. Black Sabbath was the red headed step child of Hard Rock, Rolling stone called their first 3 albums "trash" effectively and it was because they didn't play the game with the media, and suffered because of it. Look at Rush, they weren't mainstream until very recently and still aren't for the most part. Any "mainstream" Pink Floyd fan can name a handful of songs, a true dedicated fan can rattle off Syd Barret era music like a champ. Jethro Tull was a side act at best for a lot of people, even though they freaking rule. Deep Purple was one of the best bands of the era (along with Rainbow). BOC was the gak. KISS was cheesy but they could still make pretty decent music.
Here's one of my favorite Black Sabbath Tracks, completely and almost lost to history...almost:
I'm pretty sure most of those bands (except Rush) were pretty popular back in the 70's at least with the general public. Also mainstream has nothing to do with being critically acclaimed or fans only knowing a
handful of songs it's a word that can be used to describe a dominant, well known group (it has several definitions) which I think bands like Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, etc would have been in the 70's.
Cheesecat wrote:
I'm pretty sure most of those bands (except Rush) were pretty popular back in the 70's at least with the general public. Also mainstream has nothing to do with being critically acclaimed or fans only knowing a
handful of songs it's a word that can be used to describe a dominant, well known group (it has several definitions) which I think bands like Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, etc would have been in the 70's.
Thick as a Brick, by Jethro Tull got to number 1 one the record charts. Close to the Edge, by Yes, got to 3. Rush has more consecutive Gold/Platinum than anyone other than the Beatles and the Rolling Stones.
I think it's safe to say, they were pretty big. Just because they got beat out by disposable Pop songs on the radio back then, doesn't mean they weren't popular.
2011/07/19 19:39:39
Subject: I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music
Cheesecat wrote:
I'm pretty sure most of those bands (except Rush) were pretty popular back in the 70's at least with the general public. Also mainstream has nothing to do with being critically acclaimed or fans only knowing a
handful of songs it's a word that can be used to describe a dominant, well known group (it has several definitions) which I think bands like Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, etc would have been in the 70's.
Thick as a Brick, by Jethro Tull got to number 1 one the record charts. Close to the Edge, by Yes, got to 3. Rush has more consecutive Gold/Platinum than anyone other than the Beatles and the Rolling Stones.
I think it's safe to say, they were pretty big. Just because they got beat out by disposable Pop songs on the radio back then, doesn't mean they weren't popular.
Well being Canadian, I didn't know if they were popular outside their home country. Thanks for the clarification.
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2011/07/22 01:09:22
Subject: Re:I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music
As far as genres go, I'll listen to anything. (I do have my preferences though in Rock, Metal, and Industrial)
however, I really rarely ever listen to music pre 2000's
I have a whole theory on this... *ahem*
before the public had access to the internet, the only way to get music from an artist was to buy an album, whether it was a vinyl, cassette, or a CD. And thus the only way for artist and bands to sell was to produce a good album. You heard a single on the radio, (or saw a music video on MTV) and you liked the single. Guess what? now you went out and bought the album for that single, and from there, you now have the full album. If you didn't enjoy the album, obviously you wouldn't go out and buy another album from the same artist. If you did like the album, then you may very well consider buying the next album that artist puts out.
Now comes in the internet. Artists and bands still get their music playing on the radio and the tv. what has changed is how people get that music. (Keep in mind that I'm going to be talking about legitimate forms of downloading music such as rhapsody and itunes) No longer does anyone have to buy a full album, if you hear a song on the radio, or watch the music video on MTV, now you can just download that one song you heard and enjoyed.
here's where my theory kicks in, because people generally don't have to buy a whole album from an artist/band and can instead buy individual songs, I think that artists caught onto that and produce good singles, and not so much good albums anymore. I remember hearing a song from Paramore* and though it was cool. I borrowed the album from a friend of mine and in all honesty, I though most of the album was just sh%t. So there you go, that's my theory as best as I can explain it. Artists no longer have to produce good albums to sell, only good singles to sell. You obviously get more songs in an album than in one single, and that's about all I have to say
feel free to challenge what I said, agree with it, or comment
I probably lost some credibility for saying I listened to them...
working on tau and working on steel legion and I freakin LOVE khorne!
2011/07/22 02:15:14
Subject: I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music
FITZZ wrote:
For the most part I stick with my tried and true old punk roots.
Sadly, from a technical standpoint most old punk had much less effort put into it than said bubble gum pop
I think that this is really untrue. There are a lot of early punk bands that were just like pop bands; writing songs to make them money. But the majority of early punk didn't sound like the Ramones or the Sex Pistols (like the Fall, Wire, Flipper, Pere Ubu, Wipers, Stooges, Gang of Four, Suicide, the list could go on and on).
The only good pop music came before the early 70's, before record companies turned it into a commodity to make money. For every terrible mainstream band there are two awesome underground ones (and probably 20 awful underground ones). The bad thing about music today is you really have to put time into finding the good stuff, you're not just going to hear it on the radio.
2011/07/22 03:16:03
Subject: I've been corrupted by todays S%$ty music
May the the blessings of His Grace the Emperor tumble down upon you like a golden fog. (Only a VERY select few will get this reference. And it's not from 40k. )