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SilverMK2 wrote:

daedalus-templarius wrote:It wasn't an insult, but saying it is a sub-par button bash on any reasonable difficulty is being disingenuous. If you button bash, you will die.

As I said to you in the other thread, I played through on the "hardest" difficulty and had no trouble at all more or less just mashing the attack buttons. I don't really feel like engaging you any further - your position and views on the game are more than clear and apparently you are not willing to consider that other people don't see things as you do.

And the same can be said for you.

biccat wrote:

Melissia wrote:The game has an excellent single player. It just feels like it was a bit too short in areas where you used non-standard fighting methods.

The complaint of "too short" seems all too common. I'm not interested in spending $50-60 for 8-10 hours of singleplayer action.

It's common amongst the entire FPS/3PS genre, really.

Melissia wrote:

biccat wrote:

Melissia wrote:The game has an excellent single player. It just feels like it was a bit too short in areas where you used non-standard fighting methods.

The complaint of "too short" seems all too common. I'm not interested in spending $50-60 for 8-10 hours of singleplayer action.

It's common amongst the entire FPS/3PS genre, really.

Common doesn't mean I have to put up with it.

Halo had a great story despite being a FPS/3PS. Fallout 3/NV is essentially an RPG set in a FPS. There are plenty of non-shooter games (I'm looking at you Demon Souls) that are in a third person view and have an engaging gameplay. And despite having a fairly short amount of new game content, Demon Souls has a great replayability mechanic.

From the posts here, it doesn't look like Space Marine has done much to appeal to those outside the BUY EVERY GAME or 40k fan demographics.

And that's unfortunate.

nectarprime wrote:And the same can be said for you.

Since I've not played the multiplayer, I'm more than willing to listen to people's views on it. And I don't recall insulting anyone for their point of view or endlessly contradicting people who disagree with me despite having stated my viewpoint already (several times).

Well apparently you are much better at 'mashing buttons' than myself or several of the other people I've spoken to that have played it on hard.

That doesn't really work in multiplayer though, mashing buttons is just going to get you killed.

I'd say I got about the same enjoyment out of Space Marine's campaign as I have from the Halos in the past; I always enjoy the campaign and story, but that isn't what keeps me coming back.

LordofHats wrote:

chaos0xomega wrote:

Deadshane1 wrote:You guys bought Space Marine.

I bought Dead Island.

I win.

I agree. Space Marine was not worth 60 bucks...

It's $49.99 on PC

I wish I had a PC that could run the damn thing, but some of us never have any money because we keep buying 60 dollar games that aren't worth the sticker price, leaves a very sour taste in my mouth...

As for zombie games, I never really got into the genre to begin with (aside from Dead Space 1 (which I loved), a brief sojourn into Extermination (too scary, I was like 10 or 11 when it came out), and maybe playing 15 minutes of a Resident Evil game long ago...), so its pretty new to me.

I will say Spesh Mareen MP is far more enjoyable than Halo was (IMO).

biccat wrote:From the posts here, it doesn't look like Space Marine has done much to appeal to those outside the BUY EVERY GAME or 40k fan demographics.

Err, what? Yeaaah... uhm... it does? While I am a 40k fan, this game would have been rather interesting regardless due to the jump pack elements, which almost invariably get mention as great fun. It just needed more OF said elements, like a glass of iced tea with just a touch of sugar but not enough of it for your tastes.

The multiplayer at least allows one to experience more of each of the special aspects.

Melissia wrote:

biccat wrote:From the posts here, it doesn't look like Space Marine has done much to appeal to those outside the BUY EVERY GAME or 40k fan demographics.

Err, what? Yeaaah... uhm... it does? While I am a 40k fan, this game would have been rather interesting regardless due to the jump pack elements, which almost invariably get mention as great fun. It just needed more OF said elements, like a glass of iced tea with just a touch of sugar but not enough of it for your tastes.

The multiplayer at least allows one to experience more of each of the special aspects.

I agree. Nothing beat when you were climbing the tower flying on the jetpack and smashing skulls with a Thunderhammer.

LordofHats wrote:

Jollydevil wrote:An extremely fun single player

And it only took one play through to do everything there was to do. Fun is all well and good, but I kind of need a reason to do one fun something over doing another fun something else.

tons of levels of mp.

Not sure if serious. 5 != 'tons'

You can get 2 play throughs really, one on normal and one on hard. Also, theres 41 levels to go through...

Melissia wrote:

biccat wrote:From the posts here, it doesn't look like Space Marine has done much to appeal to those outside the BUY EVERY GAME or 40k fan demographics.

Err, what? Yeaaah... uhm... it does? While I am a 40k fan, this game would have been rather interesting regardless due to the jump pack elements, which almost invariably get mention as great fun. It just needed more OF said elements, like a glass of iced tea with just a touch of sugar but not enough of it for your tastes.

The multiplayer at least allows one to experience more of each of the special aspects.

Don't feed the troll.

nectarprime wrote:

Melissia wrote:

biccat wrote:From the posts here, it doesn't look like Space Marine has done much to appeal to those outside the BUY EVERY GAME or 40k fan demographics.

Err, what? Yeaaah... uhm... it does? While I am a 40k fan, this game would have been rather interesting regardless due to the jump pack elements, which almost invariably get mention as great fun. It just needed more OF said elements, like a glass of iced tea with just a touch of sugar but not enough of it for your tastes.

The multiplayer at least allows one to experience more of each of the special aspects.

Don't feed the troll.

Why are you accusing me of trolling? I asked for an honest assessment of the game and I think posters have given me a good basis on which to judge it. Based on this information, I've formed the opinion that this game really doesn't have a lot to offer to casual gamers who are interested in a good gaming experience.

Short single player + limited multiplayer = meh.

biccat wrote:

nectarprime wrote:

Melissia wrote:

biccat wrote:From the posts here, it doesn't look like Space Marine has done much to appeal to those outside the BUY EVERY GAME or 40k fan demographics.

Err, what? Yeaaah... uhm... it does? While I am a 40k fan, this game would have been rather interesting regardless due to the jump pack elements, which almost invariably get mention as great fun. It just needed more OF said elements, like a glass of iced tea with just a touch of sugar but not enough of it for your tastes.

The multiplayer at least allows one to experience more of each of the special aspects.

Don't feed the troll.

Why are you accusing me of trolling? I asked for an honest assessment of the game and I think posters have given me a good basis on which to judge it. Based on this information, I've formed the opinion that this game really doesn't have a lot to offer to casual gamers who are interested in a good gaming experience.

Short single player + limited multiplayer = meh.

Based on some information I got online, I realized that Obama was a socialist who worshiped Allah and wants to do nothing but destroy America.

Just because someone said it, it doesn't mean it's true.

I have the game and I can vouch for the accuracy of biccat's internet-derived knowledge.

Having an abivalent-to-negative opinion of a game is not trolling. Casually calling someone a troll, however, is.

Manchu, I have to disagree. The Singleplayer can be fun, if you play some levels again. Others, not so much. Also, the Multiplayer doesn't feel limited. Sure there are two modes, but they are fun as hell, and the free DLC is on it's way in early October, and that should breathe new life into the game.

But he said it was short not that it was not fun. And I think, in 2011, we can pretty well agree that multiplayer with only two modes is pretty limited. I'm not sad that I purchased the game but I know biccat is absolutely correct in my case: I only bought this because it's 40k. If it was a short, limited Gears of War it would have stayed at the store. (/unintentional slant rhyme)

But how can he come to a conclusion if he hasn't even played the game?

The same way you can conlcude you don't want cancer without ever having cancer: people whose knowledge he considers accurate have offered information on which he can make a judgment.

Jollydevil wrote:You can get 2 play throughs really, one on normal and one on hard. Also, theres 41 levels to go through...

Oh you meant levels levels. KK. 41 is a lot but you progress pretty fast through them. About 18 hours in seize ground, maybe 25-30 in Annihilation. It's a pretty fast progression, and 41 isn't that many.

Anyways, back to DashofPepper's criticisms: I also don't like the voices. I've only played the demo mind you but I still find Dawn of War has the best interpretation of the voices. Deep, Vader like ones for Space Marines, gutteral, cockney ones for Orks and other-worldly alien ones for Eldar etc.

Yeah, DoP has a fine point there. How can John Hurt's voice come out of a neck as thick as a fat woman's thigh? I guess it's possible but mere possibility is hardly the mother of verisimilitude.

nectarprime wrote:But how can he come to a conclusion if he hasn't even played the game?

That's what reviews are fore I suppose.

Manchu wrote:But he said it was short not that it was not fun. And I think, in 2011, we can pretty well agree that multiplayer with only two modes is pretty limited.

Nnnnot really? Most game modes suck anyway...

Now, the lack of co-op at launch is a reasonable objection, I agree.

Wait, you disagreed with me then disagreed with yourself, ultimately agreeing with me. Unless you mean co-op is somehow not a type of multiplayer.

I played the demo, several times. I've enjoyed it. I would get spacemarine except that my PSU has decided to asplode meaning I'm stuck on my mac.. *sigh*

6-7 hour campaign? Ok, this game goes on the 'avoid' list, especially as I don't give two gaks about multiplayer. I'll borrow it from a friend.

I'll go take the money I would have spent on this game and spend half of it on Arkham City and the other half on the new God of War collection.

I don't consider multiplayer and coop the same thing. I MUCH prefer coop

bombboy1252 wrote:I don't consider multiplayer and coop the same thing. I MUCH prefer coop

Gonna agree with this. It's probably a silly distinction to make but meh. Thems the breaks.

LordofHats wrote:

Jollydevil wrote:You can get 2 play throughs really, one on normal and one on hard. Also, theres 41 levels to go through...

Oh you meant levels levels. KK. 41 is a lot but you progress pretty fast through them. About 18 hours in seize ground, maybe 25-30 in Annihilation. It's a pretty fast progression, and 41 isn't that many.

Hopefull well get a prestige option sometime in the future

Manchu wrote:I only bought this because it's 40k. If it was a short, limited Gears of War it would have stayed at the store. (/unintentional slant rhyme)

I might pick it up in a few weeks when the price drops significantly simply because it's 40k.

But for the price, it doesn't appear to be a good use of my monies.

Jollydevil wrote:

LordofHats wrote:

Jollydevil wrote:You can get 2 play throughs really, one on normal and one on hard. Also, theres 41 levels to go through...

Oh you meant levels levels. KK. 41 is a lot but you progress pretty fast through them. About 18 hours in seize ground, maybe 25-30 in Annihilation. It's a pretty fast progression, and 41 isn't that many.

Hopefull well get a prestige option sometime in the future

Why on earth would anyone want to throw their stuff away and start all over? I've never understood that XD. I even tried in BLOPS and got to prestige 5 I think. I honestly have never understood the appeal