What do you think about battles between armies that are not supposed to be fighting each other?

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**CpatTom**

Damn Spaez Muh-Reans not knowing how to paint their own armour.

**MrMerlin**

Jimsolo wrote:Merlin, I totally agree, it irks the crap out of me. So much that I can't play unless I have a legitimate reason for the fight. With that in mind, I created the following table for you:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/372415.page

The fact that I created it months ago is only testament to my greatness.

Also, if it is only Imperium vs Imperium, here's one I made that has even more options. The fact that I made it over a year before you asked is once again testament to my awesomeness.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/296973.page#1610201

But seriously, I feel your pain. Hope these help.

Hey thanks for posting theese. I like them!

And if its really complicated to explain, just say its Tzeenchs plan

Like this Orks vs Eldar-slaneesh-allies. I was orks. I was VERY annoyed.

**Shrike325**

Eldar/Slaanesh isn't that hard actually.

Eldar have fallen back into their old ways and have even embraced them falling to worship Slaanesh.

EDIT: For teams

Orks w/ anything: being manipulated
Eldar w/ anything: manipulating / fighting against a greater threat
Dark Eldar w/ anything: see it as an opportunity for whatever
Chaos w/ anything: [insert army name] has recently fallen to chaos
Imperial w/ imperial: durrrrr
Imperial w/ anything: fighting against a greater threat / manipulated
Tau w/ anything: fighting for the greater good
'Nids: don't really work with anything
Necrons: don't really work with anything

**Spanish Birdman**

Jimsolo said this in his thread, but I find it bears repeating in this one.

Necrons can fight Necrons because they are robots, and a determined Mek or Tau research team could hack their programming to make the sensors see other Necrons as organic lifeforms. Of course, the said researchers are killed soon after so they can't spread the virus.

**Durza**

Shrike325 wrote:Chaos w/ anything: [insert army name] has recently fallen to chaos

I actually had a game where it was me (Chaos) and GKs against IG and SM. We decided to avoid the thorny 'Chaos Grey Knights' issue by having my team start on opposite ends of the table and say that the Grey Knights mistakenly believe that the other side had fallen, and Chaos had mistimed the blitz which was to take out the victorious army. Would it have been simpler to ally with one of the other armies? Yes, but I don't care, because we won and then I massacred my team mate.

Necrons: don't really work with anything

Do I need to say brofist?

**im2randomghgh**

Grey Templar wrote:
insaniak wrote:

The only one I would say for sure makes sense 0% of the time is kroot mercenaries vs. Tau.

The game includes 10000 years of galactic history. Kroot weren't always a subject race of the Tau, and even now it's a safe bet that not all of them are happy with the status quo.

Or maybe the Tau disagreed with something the Kroot ate.

Kroot mercenaries could fight anyone, they are hired guns after all.

The Kroot Mercenaries have to hide their EXISTENCE from the Tau, they most definitely would not consider battling them, plus kroot guns w/o tau tech added are basically muskets. PLUS there is absolutely no precedent for it.

**loota boy**

Two words: Alpha legion.

**PresidentOfAsia**

I just think of the battle as a "training mission"

but I do find it weird when something like Dark Eldar fights alongside Tau against Imperial Guard and tyranids

**KilroyKiljoy**

curtis wrote:I don't care since you can normally pull a reason out of thin air like for example, ultramarines vs ultramarines - wargames using paint rounds, you have to keep match fit somehow, also works for all loyalists.

purplefood wrote:Pretty much any team up or clash is either possible or explainable.
Ultra vs ultra? A strikeforce of Ultramarines have been corrupted by an ancient daemonic artifact. Though they haven't fallen to chaos they must be cleansed to stop a further spread.

Imperium vs Imperium? A miscommunication of orders has resulted in 2 guard regiments clashing. Not knowing the true reason they have both assumed the other has turned traitor and are preparing to wipe each other out.

Necrons vs Necrons?A badly damaged tombworld is sending out forces to attack targets regardless of whether they are friend or foe, they have arrived on another tombworld and have begn attacking straight away.

Nids and BA vs Orks and GK? A BA strike force has been assisting a rogue inquisitor with his experiments on controlling Tyranid swarms when they are seperated from their hive mind. A strikeforce of GK have been assembled by a triumverate of Inquisitors to stop him. Days before the attack is launched ork raiders under the command of the notorious psychic warlord Brainbusta attacks the BA, his forces ignore the GK totally leaving the GK and Orks as somewhat unlikely allies. To combat both these new threats the Inquisitor send in his Swarm of Tyranids hoping that they will be enough to turn the tide.

Iranna wrote:I'm Eldar, I fight everyone.

Iranna.

Pouncey wrote:There are plausible explanations for pretty much any matchup. It's a big galaxy out there. ^_^

When you can't think of a good reason, the obligatory training exercise is a good fallback position.

I remember the old Witch Hunters Codex had a section about, "Witch Hunters would fight X army because..."

They had plausible explanations for fighting every faction that GW has made playable armies for - with all the Space Marines together of course.

Basically, all of these. Think hard enough, and you can always come up with something. If it really annoys you that badly, maybe you should think about playing an army that may occasionally fight its own race (Orks, DE, and Chaos spring to mind).

**dripwelquest**

I just Mary Sue the issuse, <insert opponents army> is getting in the way of capturing another Fallen.

**Grey Templar**

Spanish Birdman wrote:Jimsolo said this in his thread, but I find it bears repeating in this one.

Necrons can fight Necrons because they are robots, and a determined Mek or Tau research team could hack their programming to make the sensors see other Necrons as organic lifeforms. Of course, the said researchers are killed soon after so they can't spread the virus.

ummm, No.

Necrons are NOT robots. they are the souls of an ancient and vindictive species that are posessing these living metal bodies. They are NOT robotic in the slightest. The metal is alive in every sense of the word.

You are not going to hack their system.

Necrons will fight other Necrons if their masters are fighting each other. the Necrons are not a unified race. the various Lords have power struggles as they did in life. the different C'tan will also war with each other. all occasions where Necrons wil fight each other.

**BLOODCLAWallday**

The other night my friend and I teamed up against another comrade, I with my SW, my ally with his Eldar and our common enemy with his gigantic IG (complete with a BB which did work on us the entire match. If the IG pulls out the blade and you have no epic vehicles to match, run).We just said the IG went rogue. There are sometimes ways to avoiding lore clash, hopefully you can find them. (Just for the record, we did end up taking out the BB, thank god for Fire Dragons.)

**im2randomghgh**

BLOODCLAWallday wrote:The other night my friend and I teamed up against another comrade, I with my SW, my ally with his Eldar and our common enemy with his gigantic IG (complete with a BB which did work on us the entire match. If the IG pulls out the blade and you have no epic vehicles to match, run).We just said the IG went rogue. There are sometimes ways to avoiding lore clash, hopefully you can find them. (Just for the record, we did end up taking out the BB, thank god for Fire Dragons.)

Whenever anyone uses epic vehicles on me, I throw Mantas at it until it goes away.

**Jollydevil**

Theres always a reason you can give for two armies fighting who usually wouldnt be. At points the eldar have teamed up with the gaurd against chaos, ond chaos has fought chaos before. Even orks have been known to team up with gaurd once or twice.
So no, it doesnt bother me in the least.

**InquisitorVaron**

I will play but through gritted teeth hoping too scatter and kill their men.

I played Eldar and Orks as a Team which makes sense, the Eldar promising my Orks technology the Meks could only dream of. I often then ask them for a Battle afterwards to represent the Eldar backstabbing me and or the Orks trying to take it by Force.

When it happens in a fluff campaign that will make me not want to play.