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it's having a loaded gun within arms reach of your bed I think sounds a bit paranoid.

Where else would I keep it than in the locker in the room I spend most of my time in? An unloaded and out of reach firearm is exactly as useful as a paperweight, or a politician. Should a situation arise where a firearms employment is appropriate, you can't exactly yell "TIME OUT! Lemme load my gun...Pardon me, you're between me and the garage, I need to get to the safe."

There is a large difference between being ready and staying up at night, clutching it wildeyed, desperately hoping that "THEM UNDESIRABLES" don't break through the door.

Look, even the NRA say you shouldn't load a gun until you're ready to use it. So what do I know?

Yea, in all honesty having a loaded weapon in your house is just asking for something bad to happen. The smart thing to do is to have them in a safe and practice your routine of opening safe, loading gun and know your routes in the house.

Look, even the NRA say you shouldn't load a gun until you're ready to use it. So what do I know?

I'm always ready for the possibility. I suppose that means it should always stay loaded.

Seriously though, there are a lot of reasons for that. Some are a cover-your-butt liability move (Can you imagine the legal <CENSORED>storm that would result if the NRA said ANYTHING other than "Keep it unloaded"? If they were to say "Big boy rules, keep it loaded if you want, but you're responsible for anything bad happening!" they would be promptly sued into the ground!) some are storage related, and it's just a good general GUIDELINE to follow for a lot of folks. I certainly don't keep the ones that are in the safe rather than the go-box loaded. Don't want the springs compressed if they don't have to be, don't want to deal with any temprature-difference related shenanigans with things getting stuck after being there unchecked and unmoved for months/years, etc.

All of these go out the window with a weapon that is to be kept ready. The one that remains is unauthorized access, and in my case...you still have to bust some locks, or you have to get past ME personally. Most others you will find the same.

Moreover, there are varying states of "Loaded"...Safety off/No safety, magazine inserted, chamber loaded? Safety on, magazine inserted, chamber UNloaded? Any combination? These are up to the individuals` comfort level and situation.

A small, jumpy dog to sound the alarm, and a big dog for tackling/biting people + whatever is nearby and looks like it could split someones wig open is my general plan.

I can't set boobytraps in my house, because if a robber steps in one, he can sue me.

But, like I said earlier, a Bowie Knife duck-taped the the nightstand. And a Machete under the bed.

Howard A Treesong wrote:I guess any country awash with guns means you need them when a person breaks in because of the likelihood of them being armed. Violent burglaries are very uncommon in the UK. Most burglars run off if they heard the owner get up.


By the way, I'm not totally against gun ownership, it's the idea of keeping one loaded right next to the bed I think is excessive.

Actually in a country "awash" with guns our overall crime rate per capita is lower. There are more factors than just guns an I acknowledge that. But I am a true believer that an armed society is polite society.
Having a loaded gun next to the bed, or in my case in every room of the house may seem excessive to some. To me it's not about home invasion, it's about the inconcievable.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard/article-23714675-uk-has-worst-violent-crime-rate-in-europe.do

And also I think Carthage should be destroyed.

Pull out my samurai sword get my recon armor and beat some ass.

Release the hounds and save on dog food for the week. Taurus 9mm above the armoire just in case they fail.

SlaveToDorkness wrote:Release the hounds and save on dog food for the week. Taurus 9mm above the armoire just in case they fail.

WARORK93 wrote:

SlaveToDorkness wrote:Release the hounds and save on dog food for the week. Taurus 9mm above the armoire just in case they fail.

I wish i had that many dogs. But my area only lets 2 dogs per a household.... gakkers >.>
And no assualt rifles apparently. Jerks
And no hand guns....
But rpgs are allowed WTF?

I feel for you. Illinois is the only state more gun-owner unfriendly than CA.

SOFDC wrote:I feel for you. Illinois is the only state more gun-owner unfriendly than CA.

well thats my neighborhood rules. The county rules are hilarious it doesn't say anything about Assualt Rifles or Hand Guns, and if they bother you about from the cops you can forward them the fact you can carry and assualt rifle. Lake County for the win!

Let the dog handle it, go back to sleep.

It growls like the lovechild of Jack Bauer and Sam Fisher. If they hear that and don't run, nothing I have in the house will be able to stop them.

Nerivant wrote:Let the dog handle it, go back to sleep.

It growls like the lovechild of Jack Bauer and Sam Fisher. If they hear that and don't run, nothing I have in the house will be able to stop them.

Don't worry I will save you. somehow i will be able to parkour my way through an entire 12 states towards you. Though I may be 4 months late.

Still faster than the police.

Chowderhead wrote:I can't set boobytraps in my house, because if a robber steps in one, he can sue me.

...Well...that and you certainly don't want to catch your Mom in a bear trap...or catapult your siblings out of a window.

This is a great thread. I am a little nuts though. I actually have weapons hidden in spots key everywhere around my flat. No one would be able to guess where they were unless they were very lucky. You'd have to know how to fight properly with the blades anyway. If I was in bed I'd give my girlfriend the M1911 and I'd grab my katana.

One day once works settles down and we are someplace for more than a few months at a time I'll buy a house, and three big ass dogs, and a kickass do-it-myself security system, and my own arsenal, because I'm like that. Wrong house mofos.

Peace, communication, and reaching a mutual understanding.

Or a hidden knife, if that fails.

umm lets see....My well trained attack cats will join the fray as I take the katana out from under my bed. Yep.


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umm lets see....My well trained attack cats will join the fray as I take the katana out from under my bed. Yep.

I keep my Taurus semi-auto .45 loaded on my nightstand, round in the chamber, de-cocked, on safe, with a knife, flashlight, and two spare mags. Running Fiocchi .45 235gr. JHP XTP +P ammo.

Next to that is my SIG522 rifle with a Tru-Glo red dot sight and a 25 round mag, loaded, chamber empty, on safe.

Next to that is my duty gear for work which includes a level IIIA bulletproof vest with stab/slash/spike inserts.

Across from my bedroom is my utility room with my other rifles, bow, and crossbow, all secured but accessible within a minute or two.

All the members of my household have been trained how to shoot, and know what to do in the event of a jam/misfire, etc.

Any time my family comes in from out of town, I always make a trip out to the range with them, and double check to make sure they know their stuff.

That's if I'm in the house.

If I'm coming home to a break in, god help them.

I have my pistol with me (same setup as before), light, spare mags, knife, Interceptor body armor (that baby can take a bunch of 7.62 and keep on kicking), gas mask, helmet, handcuffs, etc.

I also usually have security cameras up (to catch the neigbors kids fething with my cars: they like to throw rocks at each other and don't care about backdrop), but I haven't had the time to reinstall them since I moved.


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But as far as anyone breaking in?

My screen door squeaks like a mofo and wakes me up whenever I hear it. I have a steel dead-bolted door (came with the place), which would make a huge amount of noise if kicked in.

Since Florida has an awesome castle doctrine, I don't have the duty to retreat like in other states.

And in Florida, burglary is a forcible felony, which means they don't have to have a weapon to get themselves shot.


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Barksdale wrote:This is a great thread. I am a little nuts though. I actually have weapons hidden in spots key everywhere around my flat. No one would be able to guess where they were unless they were very lucky. You'd have to know how to fight properly with the blades anyway. If I was in bed I'd give my girlfriend the M1911 and I'd grab my katana.

One day once works settles down and we are someplace for more than a few months at a time I'll buy a house, and three big ass dogs, and a kickass do-it-myself security system, and my own arsenal, because I'm like that. Wrong house mofos.

QFT, my friend, QFT.

We have a Staffy. 'nuff said.


But failling that lets see...
In my parents room - My dad has a rather hefty 2 handed axe handle under their bed. He has a kukri which i think he keeps in his sock drawer and a ww2 era bayonet (which he shouldnt have because its illegal) on a shelf, a hunting knife of some description stashed somewhere (again... illegal). Oh and he has a Veitnam era mortar shell somewhere in his shed. He assures my mum its all safe and deactivated but im pretty sure its still live.
My mum has an infinate amount of nice slender pointy knitting needles which would be perfect from sneaking up on someone with and slipping inbetween ribs or into someones spine.

I've got a cricket bat in my room which is perfect for belting people in the kneecaps with. Theres also the cans of spray primer which i suppose could be use to spray into peoples face or as improvised flamerthrowers if i can find a lighter...

I couldnt speak as to what my brother or sister might have available should they need to defend themselves but my bro has a guitar and a couple of basses so i suppose he could whollop some poor bugger over the head with one or jab em in the gut with it. And my sister has like a million shoes, so shoe assault maybe?

My plan is to hide in a corner.....or in a closet....or under my bed...

I'll let my step dad deal with it, he's twice my damn size anyway, and he has 2 rifles and a shotgun for hunting, though they are in the basement....

I used to keep an axe and a short baseball bat.

Now I live on the fifth floor of a large block I'm not worried about it.

Errrmm, in my student flat, my choice is currently office chair or umbrella. Or run like gak to the kitchen and grab the 1 knife, small though it is.
At home, I have literally no weapons, my best bet is to drop a dumbell on them when they come up the stairs...
Dad's house - easy, sword, bayonets, knives, pool cues etc.

The OC-D

I have a replica japanese long/short/dagger set within easy reach, but I wish I had a gun instead. Slashy and Stabby are still good in cqb though.

chaos0xomega wrote:My plan is to nuke the house from orbit... its the only way to be sure.

Now there's a man who understands there is no such thing as overkill.




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SOFDC wrote:

This could be substituted for alligators as needed, because alligators are cool, and practically family.

Good eatin too.

Indeed.


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Howard A Treesong wrote:I have a samurai sword (cheap prop replica, not a genuine one but good enough to do damage). My parents have a bayonet designed to be fitted to an enfield rifle which is the genuine article.

I hope any burglar would be scared off when I come at them waving one of those over my head and likely completely starkers.

Just throw your PHD thesis at them. That could probably kill a rhino.
(Congrats again!)

No plan survives contact with the enemy.

I hope mine does, because my plan happens to be a foot of sharpened steel and my fists.

I certainly don't want those to break upon contact with the enemy.

Or my gun when I finally have saved up enough for it.

I live in texas, and the general texan plan against burglars is to shoot them until they die, and make sure they die in your house. Any less and they sue you. I've no qualms against how things are run here.

As for my tools, I've got my revolver, and sks in the closet, and a surprisingly sturdy battleaxe some girl gave me for my birthday while I was back in high school. I really hope it never comes to the point where I only have the battleaxe.