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That's usually how these Megaforces are: "Core in a Box".

So the savings are about 30%, right? But will they be available through retailers (with further discounts) or are they GW online store exclusives?

lord_blackfang wrote:So the savings are about 30%, right? But will they be available through retailers (with further discounts) or are they GW online store exclusives?

I'd expect Warstore to be able to get a few, but it'll be mostly GW store Christmas Splash.

Edited by Manchu.

If there's a big saving discount on the Dark Eldar force and if there's a further saving from the indy stores (provided these aren't direct order only) then I'm going to consider both the skaven and especially the dark eldar.

MeanGreenStompa wrote:If there's a big saving discount on the Dark Eldar force and if there's a further saving from the indy stores (provided these aren't direct order only) then I'm going to consider both the skaven and especially the dark eldar.

If we could get an additional 20% off these, that would just be fantastic.

Unless it inclueds a limited edition uber character for something I'm not interested.

2 battleforces, 3 venoms and 2 ravagers is a better start than that boxed set IMHO

I quite like the look of that set but the price may just put me right off.

"Core in a box"? The only way to make the SM Megaforce less useful is to add a Thunderfire cannon.

One dread. One drop pod. One land raider (?!). One scout speeder. Command squad. Tac squad. Scout Squad. Dev squad.

Don't get me wrong, with the exception of the Scout speeder, all of these can be useful units. But not all together.

It's like when you buy a nice knife block that comes with a knife set. You get two knives that you'll really use a lot and the rest are surplus knives the company was trying to find a way to get rid of.

Sidstyler wrote:But after that I started thinking that maybe I was wrong, maybe $250-275 isn't as bad as I originally thought. I still wish it was a more even split between wyches/warriors though, I don't get why there's so many wyches. I dunno, maybe it's because I'm too stupid to realize wyches are THE BEST TROOP IN 40K OMG.

I'm right there with you. I would have loved to see 20 Warriors and 20 Wyches, with no Scourges. I bought all the Scourges I'll ever need when they came out. I wouldn't say Wyches are the best troop either, I can understand why some people don't like them. I think they're a great unit and have taken them in every game. But if we all took all the same of everything, 40k would be a boring game indeed.

As for the pricing of the megaforce, I'll likely pick one up even though I have no use for the Scourges. If it's $250, I'll buy it if I can get it through the Warstore. If they're cheaper (especially if they're still available through the Warstore!) then I'll be one happy camper. I just realized I'm probably getting the Warriors of Chaos battalion too. I'm going to have a metric gak load of models to build and paint.

That's okay, it's disgustingly cold in winter anyways, not like I'll have anything better to do.

Death By Monkeys wrote:One dread. One drop pod. One land raider (?!). One scout speeder. Command squad. Tac squad. Scout Squad. Dev squad.

The picture is really grainy, but it looks like two tac squads, not a tac squad and a dev squad.

kronk wrote:

Death By Monkeys wrote:One dread. One drop pod. One land raider (?!). One scout speeder. Command squad. Tac squad. Scout Squad. Dev squad.

The picture is really grainy, but it looks like two tac squads, not a tac squad and a dev squad.

Yeah. There's seemingly no heavy weapons beyond Missile Launchers in there, so 2x Tactical Squads is what I used when establishing the prices.

kronk wrote:

Death By Monkeys wrote:One dread. One drop pod. One land raider (?!). One scout speeder. Command squad. Tac squad. Scout Squad. Dev squad.

The picture is really grainy, but it looks like two tac squads, not a tac squad and a dev squad.

Yeah, looking closer, you're probably right. But still, it being a second tac squad does not make the box terribly more useful.

Death By Monkeys wrote:"Core in a box"? The only way to make the SM Megaforce less useful is to add a Thunderfire cannon.

One dread. One drop pod. One land raider (?!). One scout speeder. Command squad. Tac squad. Scout Squad. Dev squad.

Don't get me wrong, with the exception of the Scout speeder, all of these can be useful units. But not all together.

It's like when you buy a nice knife block that comes with a knife set. You get two knives that you'll really use a lot and the rest are surplus knives the company was trying to find a way to get rid of.

This is exactly what I thought too. I started putting together a BA army, and this set is pretty much useless to me. It's just too all over the place.

Marine box contents are: Two tactical squads, one command squad, one space marine commander, one scout kit, one Land Speeder Storm, drop pod, Venerable Dreadnought and Land Raider Redeemer. 35 models total.

Dark Eldar: Twenty wyches, ten warriors, one transport, one armed transport variant, one venom, nine jetbikes, five winged guys. 47 models total.

High Elves: Twenty archers, thirty spearmen, lion chariot, dragon prince, heavy cavalry and heavy infantry, looks like white lions. 84 models total.

Skaven: Screaming bell, warp lightning cannon, two rat ogres + rat swarms, twenty plague monks, two blocks of old ratmen, two blocks of new models. 113 models total.

Source: WD 383, it comes with an X-Mas gift guide, all cost 130 quid or €175,--

What exactly is a "space marine command kit" and how is it different from "space marine commander"?

Oh so it's a Ravager not a Raider?

That's 547 AUD in content, 350 AUD price for the Megaforce so 197 AUD savings for the Dark Eldar force.

http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?prodId=prod1050238

nectarprime wrote:What exactly is a "space marine command kit" and how is it different from "space marine commander"?

Goof removed, it's been a long day.

There's a reason these are release around christmas time.

It's not so veteran gamers buy them for themselves.

It's so people can ask clueless relatives for them for the holidays.

I'd be more comfortable telling my Uncle that i want "the Dark Eldar Megaforce" than asking for "three ravagers and two battle forces."

Plus, who doesn't like saying "MEGAFORCE"?

BrookM wrote:

nectarprime wrote:What exactly is a "space marine command kit" and how is it different from "space marine commander"?

Goof removed, it's been a long day.

Ah ok! I was wondering if there was some kit I had never heard of! Thanks for the info

Also, the majority of people that buy 40k to play don't play competitively. There are guys that want to build wych cults.

Well, that mix of old and new for the skaven rules it out, the two aesthetics are fairly distinct and it would constantly irritate me.

Dark eldar box may well get purchased then. I'm going to build a DE army purely based on getting a range of figures I like and mixing them together. It's my 'shiz n giggles' army, whereas my Ork force is my 'gnaw your face off' principle army.

LunaHound wrote:

ceku wrote:Do megaforces save you a lot of money or are they like the battleforces and only save you like $3

Look at page 1 i did an analyze on the prices.

LunaHound wrote:1 kabalite warrior = $2.191
1 wytch = $2.191
1 raider = $24.88
1 reaver = $8.73

These are the discount worth of units inside a Battle Force. If we use that to factor the mega army then we get:

9 Reavers = $78.57
10 Kaba Warrior = $21.91
25 Wych = $54.75
2 Raiders = $49.76

Total so far = $205 Battleforce price worth.

Vemon = $30
Scourge = $25

Grand Total $260.

Not only are you not saving on the 2 , you are paying $15 to get privilege of having a Venom and Scourge in this combo.

Well now that we know that there's a ravager and raider, not two raiders and only 20 wyches and also that the box will likely be less then 275 (more like 225-250 based on AU prices -- megapaint set is 413AU and $247.50).

Currently the contents of the mega force would cost you 298 retail (a battleforce + 2 boxes reavers, 1 box wyches, 1 box scourges, 1 ravager, 1 venom). So probably 50-75 dollars in savings assuming you want everything in the box (or can sell/trade stuff you don't want).

I actually like the contents of the DE megaforce. First megaforce I am tempted to buy or put on my xmas wishlist. But unlike some folks I like reavers, think wyches are just fine and find warriors overrated. Scourges are the only unit in the box I have no plans to use, but the bits will be useful fodder for trueborn conversions and the like.

MeanGreenStompa wrote:Well, that mix of old and new for the skaven rules it out, the two aesthetics are fairly distinct and it would constantly irritate me.

Dark eldar box may well get purchased then. I'm going to build a DE army purely based on getting a range of figures I like and mixing them together. It's my 'shiz n giggles' army, whereas my Ork force is my 'gnaw your face off' principle army.

I will point out that I'm not a Skaven / Elf / Eldar expert, so I could be wrong about this and that.

What are the confirm contents for the Dark Eldar Megaforce?

Worglock wrote:
then buy the stuff from your favorite discounter?

Again you are missing the point completely.

Anyways, going to crunch some numbers now.

LunaHound wrote:What are the confirm contents for the Dark Eldar Megaforce?

Worglock wrote:

ceku wrote:Do megaforces save you a lot of money or are they like the battleforces and only save you like $3

Dark Eldar Battleforce is $95. it saves you $30.75 at retail. Please be informed, or at least do some basic math before trying to rage about GW.

No one is raging, so please don't use that tone. There are reasons that you seems to have missed, as to why the calculation was made in the first place.

I just posted those, un-ignore me already!

BrookM wrote:

LunaHound wrote:What are the confirm contents for the Dark Eldar Megaforce?

Worglock wrote:

ceku wrote:Do megaforces save you a lot of money or are they like the battleforces and only save you like $3

Dark Eldar Battleforce is $95. it saves you $30.75 at retail. Please be informed, or at least do some basic math before trying to rage about GW.

No one is raging, so please don't use that tone. There are reasons that you seems to have missed, as to why the calculation was made in the first place.

I just posted those, un-ignore me already!

I only have one person on ignore, trust me its not you o_o

But yes sorry i'll look again xD

LunaHound wrote:

BrookM wrote:

LunaHound wrote:What are the confirm contents for the Dark Eldar Megaforce?

Worglock wrote:

ceku wrote:Do megaforces save you a lot of money or are they like the battleforces and only save you like $3

Dark Eldar Battleforce is $95. it saves you $30.75 at retail. Please be informed, or at least do some basic math before trying to rage about GW.

No one is raging, so please don't use that tone. There are reasons that you seems to have missed, as to why the calculation was made in the first place.

I just posted those, un-ignore me already!

I only have one person on ignore, trust me its not you o_o

But yes sorry i'll look again xD

To repost what I posted: Dark Eldar: Twenty wyches, ten warriors, one transport, one armed transport variant, one venom, nine jetbikes, five winged guys. 47 models total.

20x wyches, $43.82
10x warriors $21.91
1x Raider $24.88
9x Jetbikes $78.57
............................................ $169.18 of Battle Force Price


1x Ravager $49.59
1x venom, $30
5x Soucrges $25
............................................$104.59 MSRP Grand Total of $273.77

Not only are you not saving on the 2 , you are paying $1.23 to get privilege of having a Venom Scourge and Ravager in this combo.

My points still stands. For anyone that understand the significance of the 2 variation of prices used.