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Kind of wish they did a Chaos Marine one. I would most likely pick that up. Not really interested in doing another 40k Army.

Hi Folks, I was in my local store yesterday when they got the holiday guides and managed to snag one.
Mega forces are, Marines, Dark Eldar, Skaven and High Elves. All are retailing for $350 Australian.

So how much does $350 australian translate to? 15 quid?

Do megaforces save you a lot of money or are they like the battleforces and only save you like $3

ceku wrote:Do megaforces save you a lot of money or are they like the battleforces and only save you like $3

Look at page 1 i did an analyze on the prices.

LunaHound wrote:1 kabalite warrior = $2.191
1 wytch = $2.191
1 raider = $24.88
1 reaver = $8.73

These are the discount worth of units inside a Battle Force. If we use that to factor the mega army then we get:

9 Reavers = $78.57
10 Kaba Warrior = $21.91
25 Wych = $54.75
2 Raiders = $49.76

Total so far = $205 Battleforce price worth.

Vemon = $30
Scourge = $25

Grand Total $260.

Not only are you not saving on the 2 , you are paying $15 to get privilege of having a Venom and Scourge in this combo.

I didnt think the sprues allowed for multiples of 5 wyches, there are 20 in the box.

They all have decent composition, if I where starting a new force, I'd probably pick one up.

lord_blackfang wrote:So how much does $350 australian translate to? 15 quid?

It's worth more than the US peso still...

350.00 AUD = 226.627 GBP
350.00 AUD = 362.408 USD

ok then... won't be needing the DE one, got enough stuff as it is however I have just started collecting skaven...and coincidently everything in the megaforce is exactly what I want to expand to 2000 points, that's ridiculously perfect for my plans (evil laughing commences) in $AUS the skaven megaforce saves you nearly $170, I am very very impressed by that, and from the warstore it would be at least $200 will definitely pick that up!

LunaHound wrote:Not only are you not saving, you are paying $15 to get privilege of having a Venom and Scourge in this combo.

So in other words...

Games Workshop: Doing it wrong ever since they went public! "Why give them a savings when we could charge them...more money?"

I was going to say something about the contents of the box probably not being right, but then I saw the pics...it does sound like an odd mix, you'd think the warriors would be the more logical "core" of a DE army than wyches. The only thing I can think of is that no one's buying wyches because they're terrible in-game, so they're trying to get rid of them by forcing them onto us via this "deal". And even though I need everything else in the box, I think I'd still rather buy everything individually online because I really don't want any more than the two boxes of wyches I already have, which are only being used for bits/conversions anyway. That and as Luna pointed out I'm almost 100% positive the "savings" for this particular megaforce aren't going to be worth the trouble anyway, as most GW box deals often aren't anymore.

As such, I dub them megafarces! At least until I see the US price and I get proven wrong, but really, if that box isn't $200 or less I won't really give a rat's ass.

Anyone know the price in "normal country dollars"? Not the exploitative aussie price.. Converting currency is sorta pointless

I like these but I will wait to see the prices before deciding. I'm painting Skaven right now so I'm not so fussed about that set but I like the High Elf set. I don't mind either 40k set but I'd be apprehensive because I'm not sure if 6th ed will change army choice the way WHFB 8th ed did. The Space Marine set looks a safe bet though. Ultimately these don't look like they are aimed at experienced players who know what they want and seem more like Christmas presents for parents to buy.

I bought the Ork 40k one a couple of years ago; still working my way throught the back log! It was £120 iirc, but I got it from Wayland for about £80. I remember working it out at the time and it was approximately a 40% discount over buying the models separately and about 30% compared to buying multiple battleforces (the Ork stuff was mostly boys, bikes and trukks)

Kirasu wrote:Anyone know the price in "normal country dollars"? Not the exploitative aussie price.. Converting currency is sorta pointless

Normal countries don't use dollars

Sidstyler wrote:

LunaHound wrote:Not only are you not saving, you are paying $15 to get privilege of having a Venom and Scourge in this combo.

So in other words...

Games Workshop: Doing it wrong ever since they went public! "Why give them a savings when we could charge them...more money?"

I was going to say something about the contents of the box probably not being right, but then I saw the pics...it does sound like an odd mix, you'd think the warriors would be the more logical "core" of a DE army than wyches. The only thing I can think of is that no one's buying wyches because they're terrible in-game, so they're trying to get rid of them by forcing them onto us via this "deal". And even though I need everything else in the box, I think I'd still rather buy everything individually online because I really don't want any more than the two boxes of wyches I already have, which are only being used for bits/conversions anyway. That and as Luna pointed out I'm almost 100% positive the "savings" for this particular megaforce aren't going to be worth the trouble anyway, as most GW box deals often aren't anymore.

As such, I dub them megafarces! At least until I see the US price and I get proven wrong, but really, if that box isn't $200 or less I won't really give a rat's ass.

Wait....first of you realize that under $200 is a bit rediculous? And do you actually play DE or 40K? Have you ever scene a DE list ? They are one of the best troops in the game hands down, something must be wrong here

Does anyone know the price for these in the UK?
The GW shopping cart for all the SM box is this:
[Space Marine Command Squad £20.50]
Space Marine Drop Pod £20.50
Space Marine Land Raider £41.00
Space Marine Land Speeder Storm £18.50
Space Marine Scouts £15.50
Space Marine Tactical Squad (2) £46.00
Space Marine Venerable Dreadnought £28.00
Total £190.00

So, for the whole lot (as taken from the picture), it's [£190].

---Edit, it's not the Command Squad, it is:
Marneus Calgar and Honour Guard £36.00
So the total is £205.50

Can't say I'm impressed by the skaven box. A single set of 2 rat ogres is pointless in any list that is enough points to field a bell. 40 stormvermin is a nice bell pusher, but otherwise doesn't seem much use. 20 Plague Monks is likewise too fragile to see use.

Basically, it's a batallion, bell, WLC (not sure why not two of these, honestly) and the 40 stormvermin.

Going off the listed Australian prices on GWOZ's site:
Dark Eldar megaforce, productwise, clocks in at 519 AUD in content. List price is 350 AUD---that's 169 AUD in 'savings'.
Space Marine megaforce, productwise, clocks in at 546 AUD in content. List price is 350 AUD--that's 196 AUD in 'savings'.
High Elf megaforce, productwise, clocks in at 585 AUD in content. Going off the list price, it's 235 in 'savings'.
Skaven megaforce, productwise, clocks in at 542 AUD for content. That's 192 in 'savings'.
Remember that when figuring out these kinds of things, you don't look at discounted prices or prices per model. You look at the retail prices of the individual boxes, and go from there.

Depending on how the prices translate and whether or not LGSes or eTailers can get product, we'll see these for cheaper via places like The Warstore or Maelstrom.

While they arent the best combinations ever, its nice to see GW giving players some cool toys like in the marines set, the venerable and a landy


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Not sure how reliable the converter I used is, but i just did a quick conversion for GBP and 350 AUD = 227 GBP. Now GW like to charge our oz cousins far too much and also with there being only 190 quids worth in there, I reckon a reasonable guess at price would be around £160. If it's around there, its not so bad, well not imo anyways. Won't be 150 cos then there wouldnt be a price rise!!!

lord_blackfang wrote:So how much does $350 australian translate to? 15 quid?

Each set is going for 130 quid or €175,--

ceku wrote:Do megaforces save you a lot of money or are they like the battleforces and only save you like $3

Dark Eldar Battleforce is $95. it saves you $30.75 at retail. Please be informed, or at least do some basic math before trying to rage about GW.

Worglock wrote:

ceku wrote:Do megaforces save you a lot of money or are they like the battleforces and only save you like $3

Dark Eldar Battleforce is $95. it saves you $30.75 at retail. Please be informed, or at least do some basic math before trying to rage about GW.

Dude, really?

BrookM wrote:

lord_blackfang wrote:So how much does $350 australian translate to? 15 quid?

Each set is going for 130 quid or €175,--

which right now, is about $210 I think. So that means $225 as a retail tag to be conservative.

Well I did a quick calculation. If you compaire prices US vs AUS, on average you can take the US price, divided by the AUS price, and you will get ~0.61. (I used 5 space marine sets as a baseline). So I figure based off a 350 AUS price, it should cost around 215$ US

EDIT - you guys beat me too it lol

Well if I added them all up right, the contents of the DE megaforce are about $340.75 individually at full retail.

My first thought is "Holy feth that's a lot of money for a couple of tanks and four boxes of infantry, is that really how much I spend on this garbage?"

But after that I started thinking that maybe I was wrong, maybe $250-275 isn't as bad as I originally thought. I still wish it was a more even split between wyches/warriors though, I don't get why there's so many wyches. I dunno, maybe it's because I'm too stupid to realize wyches are THE BEST TROOP IN 40K OMG.

BrookM wrote:

Worglock wrote:

ceku wrote:Do megaforces save you a lot of money or are they like the battleforces and only save you like $3

Dark Eldar Battleforce is $95. it saves you $30.75 at retail. Please be informed, or at least do some basic math before trying to rage about GW.

Dude, really?

Yeah I know, it's actually like $32.75. "lrn2maths" indeed!

Wait, the raider is $33? That might have fethed up all my calculations, hold on! Okay yeah it is $30.75. My bad.

I swear that's the first time that's ever happened, where I assumed a GW model was MORE expensive than it actually was.

BrookM wrote:

Worglock wrote:

ceku wrote:Do megaforces save you a lot of money or are they like the battleforces and only save you like $3

Dark Eldar Battleforce is $95. it saves you $30.75 at retail. Please be informed, or at least do some basic math before trying to rage about GW.

Dude, really?

dude. really.

Looking at GW US website right now.

Battleforce $95.

10 Kabalite $29.

10 Wyches $29

3 Reavers $34.75

Raider: $33.


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Sidstyler wrote:Well if I added them all up right, the contents of the DE megaforce are about $340.75 individually at full retail.

My first thought is "Holy feth that's a lot of money for a couple of tanks and four boxes of infantry, is that really how much I spend on this garbage?"

But after that I started thinking that maybe I was wrong, maybe $250-275 isn't as bad as I originally thought. I still wish it was a more even split between wyches/warriors though, I don't get why there's so many wyches. I dunno, maybe it's because I'm too stupid to realize wyches are THE BEST TROOP IN 40K OMG.

BrookM wrote:

Worglock wrote:

ceku wrote:Do megaforces save you a lot of money or are they like the battleforces and only save you like $3

Dark Eldar Battleforce is $95. it saves you $30.75 at retail. Please be informed, or at least do some basic math before trying to rage about GW.

Dude, really?

Yeah I know, it's actually like $32.75. "lrn2maths" indeed!

Wyches are a lot better than people give them credit for.

Regardless, of the exact number. You're getting a box of something in there for free. The numbers being thrown around in this thread about "paying for the priviledge" are terrible haer hyperbole at best, and downright falsehoods at worst with the goal to continue their hypocritical narratives.

midget_overlord wrote:
They all have decent composition, if I where starting a new force, I'd probably pick one up.

I can't speak for the fantasy sets, because I'm just not that knowledgable with that system. The 40k megaforces don't really have all that great of composition. They both look like they are all over the place to me.

I'd like to see the Space Marine Battle Company box re-released. I would get out the wallet for that deal. Even though I don't really have a mind to start a marine army right now, that box set had a cohesive feel to it. Or any of the old Apocalypse splash releases would be nice.

LunaHound wrote:Im not sure if thats alot of savings, the weird number contents were added to throw calculations off.
The DE one priced out is 9 Reavers (~105), 10 Kabalite Warriors ($29), 5 Scourges ($25), 2 Raiders ($66), 1 Venom ($30), 25 Wyches (~$70) = ~$325 of stuff.

$275 for Megaforce or for $10 more you get:

3 raiders $99
30 Kabalite warriors $87
30 wyches $87
9 Reaver Jet bikes $104.25............................. $377.25

Basically for $10 more, the original battle force would have netted you $52.25

In other words, to "trade" for the 1 Venom and 5 Scourges, you just lost $42.25 savings.

then buy the stuff from your favorite discounter?

Worglock wrote:

BrookM wrote:

Worglock wrote:

ceku wrote:Do megaforces save you a lot of money or are they like the battleforces and only save you like $3

Dark Eldar Battleforce is $95. it saves you $30.75 at retail. Please be informed, or at least do some basic math before trying to rage about GW.

Dude, really?

dude. really.

It had less to do with the math and more your general tone as an donkey-cave.

streamdragon wrote:
Basically, it's a batallion, bell, WLC (not sure why not two of these, honestly) and the 40 stormvermin.

Meh. Already bought 2 Battalions and 2 copies of the Starter to bulk my Skaven(plus a couple individual CR sets), already got a Bell, already got 1.5 WLCS(seriously, anyone got a metal WLC barrel spare?) the only thing I could use out of it would be the Stormvermin. Only have 25 of them so far.

augustus5 wrote:

midget_overlord wrote:
They all have decent composition, if I where starting a new force, I'd probably pick one up.

I can't speak for the fantasy sets, because I'm just not that knowledgable with that system. The 40k megaforces don't really have all that great of composition. They both look like they are all over the place to me.

I'd like to see the Space Marine Battle Company box re-released. I would get out the wallet for that deal. Even though I don't really have a mind to start a marine army right now, that box set had a cohesive feel to it. Or any of the old Apocalypse splash releases would be nice.

The Skaven one is essentially "Core in a Box" You've got a big unit of Stormvermin, a big unit of Clan Rats and a Bell to put one of them around. The other stuff is "useful peripherals" (Packmaster box aside).

The Dark Eldar one is better than people are giving it credit for, mostly because a lot of people don't know how to make Wyches work.