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It is directly stated that they are sterile and you seem to be aware they are unaturally uninterested in sex too.

Where?

I have already asked once.

I've always thought that the Astartes out of his armor probably had ports on his body as the appropriate places that looked kinda like the ones on the people from the Matrix movies that hook them to the machines and into the Matrix or Like when Neo woke up in the machines heat farming pods. Also kinda like the ones on the Borg kids as well.

You just know Leman Russ had something the size of an elephant's trunk stashed in his slacks.

English Assassin wrote:Where?

I have already asked once.

Various articles about their creation. Usually when they mention they must be male too.

KamikazeCanuck wrote:

English Assassin wrote:Where?

I have already asked once.

Various articles about their creation. Usually when they mention they must be male too.

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lol that doesn't sound like a source.

And also, being sterile and having your penis physically removed are quite different.

im2randomghgh wrote:

KamikazeCanuck wrote:

English Assassin wrote:Where?

I have already asked once.

Various articles about their creation. Usually when they mention they must be male too.

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lol that doesn't sound like a source.

And also, being sterile and having your penis physically removed are quite different.

I know. No one has actually said their penis is removed. Castration: that word does not mean what you think it means.

KamikazeCanuck wrote:

im2randomghgh wrote:

KamikazeCanuck wrote:

English Assassin wrote:Where?

I have already asked once.

Various articles about their creation. Usually when they mention they must be male too.

'

lol that doesn't sound like a source.

And also, being sterile and having your penis physically removed are quite different.

I know. No one has actually said their penis is removed. Castration: that word does not mean what you think it means.

I know what it means. There were just numerous people questioning whether or not they HAD a penis earlier in this thread.

KamikazeCanuck wrote:

English Assassin wrote:Where?
I have already asked once.

Various articles about their creation. Usually when they mention they must be male too.

Various articles, eh? Then you should have no trouble citing one to support your contention that Marines are not only sterile but deliberately castrated...

Actually I said they weren't deliberate. Unfortunately WD doesn't have a giant annual Index like national geographic and if I'm going to dedicate that much time to debating the genitalia of imaginary people on the Internet I better take another look at my life! Oh wait, I'm already passed the point of sanity on that one.

... Just to clarify, are there female marines? Are recruits female before they get all modified and stuff?
Also, all marines could all be the same gender after all the implants.

KamikazeCanuck wrote:Castration: that word does not mean what you think it means.

One line springs to mind...




...That word you keep using...I do not think it means what you think it means...

Hellwolf wrote:... Just to clarify, are there female marines? Are recruits female before they get all modified and stuff?
Also, all marines could all be the same gender after all the implants.

No! All marines are males before and after.

What happens to the females? Do they become SOB or just never make it into the Astartes and serve the Emperor in other ways?

Well, the main reason I started this thread was to see what the SM wore casually, especially mentioning the SW as I am on the second omnibus and still cannot find a picture on the internet. The whole issue of castration (cutting it off vs. chemically suppressing sex drive) was really a side note aimed at showing one of my friends what the general voice on this was (which is quite contested). So, without further ado, since there are obviously no pictures of actual SM walking around sans armor, I will go ahead and throw in on the issue of their manhood, although deep down I hear myself screaming not to get involved. I'm of the school of though that the sex drive and ability to have sex is entirely removed, and although there may be characters making eyes at women throughout certain series, it doesn't mean it will get anywhere past that. Not having a drive doesn't mean not finding a member of the opposite sex attractive. Someone mentioned the idea that humanity might not look kindly on the actual removal of the "parts" as it could be considered blasphemy, which leads me to believe the organs are left however flaccid and otherwise useless, aside from keeping the body whole and not being a mutant. The reasons for not having the drive are numerous so you'll just have to accept the fact your precious marines aren't slaying the bad guys then getting laid back at their barracks, it just isn't feasible with all of the negative benefactors being involved, to name a few which have already been stated: continuing lineage (dynasties), temptations, and the image of the Astartes itself. The list could go on and on. Also, I'm not particularly in the mood for going back and quoting who said it, but discussing lore and discussing toy soldiers are two different things. This is more of a literature seminar than examining a miniature, however if you feel so inclined go ahead with it.

Well SMs usually wear robes as fitting with their warrior monk motif.

I remember seeing a article online about a Space Marine Chapter, Rainbow Warriors I believe, had been stranded on a planet and isolated from the Imperium for a fairly long time. So long that they took wives(or just women to breed with) cause they could no longer find suitable recruits among the populace. Of course I have no idea where to find this tidbit now

I didn't know anything official has been published about the Rainbow Warriors, there's only the suggestion they may have been wiped out due to heresy.

Rainbow Warriors need no women for sex!

And seriously, I do not think other marines need either. Most chapters tend not to much socialise with the civilian population, so were marines to have sexual urges, I'm sure they'd just have some manly bonding experiences with their battle-brothers.

In the third book of the Inquisition War trilogy, it goes into depth about a space marine named Lex. Lex takes off his armor and is wearing a netted bodysuit under his armor and nothing else. He has studs on his spine that interact with the suit. His black carapice is under his skin and cannot be seen by anyone. He has all of his equipment intact. Lex talks to a curious dwarf and the dwarf asks him about it. He is fully functional and can have sex to full capacity like a normal human. He is Imperial Fist and talks that he is trained to subdue any sexual desires. It is a form of self denial and disapline. When talking to the dwarf, he took it as an insult that anyone would think a space marine would succumb to such a simple desire.

Hellwolf wrote:What happens to the females? Do they become SOB or just never make it into the Astartes and serve the Emperor in other ways?

What do you mean "What happens to the females?"

They don't take females to be space marines.

They only take boys between the ages of 10 and 14.

Not only between 10-14, at least not all chapters. Some you can be into your mid 20s or possibly older when being inducted, or at least that has been implied.

Grey Templar wrote:

Hellwolf wrote:What happens to the females? Do they become SOB or just never make it into the Astartes and serve the Emperor in other ways?

What do you mean "What happens to the females?"

They don't take females to be space marines.

They only take boys between the ages of 10 and 14.

I have occasionally seen thingies that stated aspirants can be accepted up to the age of 16.

But most of the good chapter only take the youngers ones. I know IF only take 12-14

I was under the impression SW take them older, as some of them had full grown beards to their chests when being inducted, and I always assumed Ragnar was somewhere around 17-18 when going through the training and preparation needed to become a SM.

Different planets have different cycles, which means a 12 year old on one planet could be 19 on another.

How Grey Knights take their youth?
Do they take orphans like Sororitas or something else?

Brother Coa wrote:How Grey Knights take their youth?
Do they take orphans like Sororitas or something else?

They recruit solely from the Black Ships IIRC.

Crimson wrote:Rainbow Warriors need no women for sex!

And seriously, I do not think other marines need either. Most chapters tend not to much socialise with the civilian population, so were marines to have sexual urges, I'm sure they'd just have some manly bonding experiences with their battle-brothers.

Ravenor's counter-pysker read erotic novels on a data slate at one point in the books so... I don't know...

Void__Dragon wrote:

Brother Coa wrote:How Grey Knights take their youth?
Do they take orphans like Sororitas or something else?

They recruit solely from the Black Ships IIRC.

Some Chapters refer recruits on if they show real potential, like the Silver Skulls.

From what I've gathered, a female implanted with a Gene Seed dies a rather horrible death.

Also in the Space Wolves book I recall Ragnar being sexually involved with some psyker / inquisitor something woman (who later died or got trapped in some pyramid thing with a plague demon)