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I don't understand all the people advocating assault and battery here.

Depending on the value of the Army, it can easily get into felony charges range, and that's a much better way to get back at someone, than a one time beating which can land yourself in a lot of trouble as well.

Sasori wrote:I don't understand all the people advocating assault and battery here.

Depending on the value of the Army, it can easily get into felony charges range, and that's a much better way to get back at someone, than a one time beating which can land yourself in a lot of trouble as well.

So far I've been reading it all as hyperbole. Stuff that people say to express their emotional attachments to their miniatures, but would never even consider doing in real life.

And of course there's the usual, "See who can come up with the nastiest way to get back at someone who has wronged you," contests that come up when men get together and talk about bad things happening to good people.

Pouncey wrote:

Sasori wrote:I don't understand all the people advocating assault and battery here.

Depending on the value of the Army, it can easily get into felony charges range, and that's a much better way to get back at someone, than a one time beating which can land yourself in a lot of trouble as well.

So far I've been reading it all as hyperbole. Stuff that people say to express their emotional attachments to their miniatures, but would never even consider doing in real life.

And of course there's the usual, "See who can come up with the nastiest way to get back at someone who has wronged you," contests that come up when men get together and talk about bad things happening to good people.

very true!

Hmm my actual actions, if someone tried stealing my mini's right in front of me, I would probably slug them(no clue if I would win a fight against them), however if as the OP states occured to me I would report to police, post pictures, and then go sit in a corner and cry as my lone valkyrie got in the mail

LoneLictor wrote:If someone stole my army, I'd terrorize them for a year. You know, slashing the tires on their car, spray painting on their house, breaking into it and thrashing stuff while they're on vacation and that sort of thing. I obviously wouldn't assault or kill 'em, but I'd make sure they suffered.

Yes, because making someones life hell isn't criminal so long as you don't hurt them

Sasori wrote:I don't understand all the people advocating assault and battery here.

Depending on the value of the Army, it can easily get into felony charges range, and that's a much better way to get back at someone, than a one time beating which can land yourself in a lot of trouble as well.

We really have two different possibilities: is the incident a burglary or robbery?

Any retaliation for burglary is illegal. Robbery, however, is a much different story. In the US, deadly force is legal in the resistance of armed, and in some cases unarmed, robbery.

So in some places, NY for example, killing someone to protect yourself during robbery of your 40k army would not be criminal at all.

DeadlySquirrel wrote:

moom241 wrote:I once came back to a hobby table to find my sentinel broken off at the legs. No one said they saw anything.

I know the feeling. In my first ever game (at a school lunchtime club) half my models ended up smashed... I left to get a sandwhich and return to find all the models, both mine and my opponents, piled in a stack in the center of the table. The room was deserted.

I hated highschool.

Sasori wrote:I don't understand all the people advocating assault and battery here.

Depending on the value of the Army, it can easily get into felony charges range, and that's a much better way to get back at someone, than a one time beating which can land yourself in a lot of trouble as well.

You are right, if it was someone this guy knew. (possible) Then it would be tempting to corner them and blindeside them. Though you are very correct, beating someone up is just going to land you an assault charge. I knew people on Dakka would understand this guy's plight. Anyone else would just laugh, even his insurance wants to dispute the costs. The time and energy he spent is really what seemed to bring him down. I am going to get this guys name if he plays at the local store and get an idea of what he has/paint scheme/carrying case. Then maybe someone on here just might see the stuff pop up. Dakka detectives.

That really sucks man. I own a chaos army too, and I can't imagine how'd I'd feel if the whole thing got jacked.

I cover up all my valuables in the car, or just leave them at home. I've been paranoid about theft ever since some dudes broke into our house and stole my N64 when I was about five. Broke my heart. I figure it can't hurt to be too careful.

Keep your friends close, and your possessions closer. That's the phrase, right?

Also, you guys have way too much anger. Odds are, if you actually found out who jacked your stuff, you'd either:
1. Get the gak beaten out of you by someone who obviously knows the risks and comes prepared, possibly with a weapon
2. Chicken out and slink back to your computer and complain about/ whine
3. Get a bunch of friends to help you, like a coward

This is real life. People are dangerous. They will hurt you. It isn't the movies, where thieves 'get what's coming to them' and skip town. Attacking anyone is a bad idea, especially criminals. Call the cops. That's the only thing you should do.

yep it does suck... i had my shed broke in to with all my armies in there. They opened all my army cases and left them empty. They didnt take anything apart from my tool box and some power drill bits. I guess they were looking for power tools. They obviously had no idea of the value of a load of plastic soldiers..... im kinda glad that they seemed to be worthless to the thiefs... It was only when the forensics guy came round to dust for prints and went OMG is that all your collection of GW stuff... did they take any that i got an alarm fitted to the shed!

Wow that sucks.



I would exercise my rarely useful and very interesting skill set, and get my army back...

Samus_aran115 wrote:That really sucks man. I own a chaos army too, and I can't imagine how'd I'd feel if the whole thing got jacked.

I cover up all my valuables in the car, or just leave them at home. I've been paranoid about theft ever since some dudes broke into our house and stole my N64 when I was about five. Broke my heart. I figure it can't hurt to be too careful.

Keep your friends close, and your possessions closer. That's the phrase, right?

Also, you guys have way too much anger. Odds are, if you actually found out who jacked your stuff, you'd either:
1. Get the gak beaten out of you by someone who obviously knows the risks and comes prepared, possibly with a weapon
2. Chicken out and slink back to your computer and complain about/ whine
3. Get a bunch of friends to help you, like a coward

This is real life. People are dangerous. They will hurt you. It isn't the movies, where thieves 'get what's coming to them' and skip town. Attacking anyone is a bad idea, especially criminals. Call the cops. That's the only thing you should do.

You are right, if it was a run of the mill thief, chances are they would have no problem stabbing someone. Good thing no one can get access to my stuff, unless they want to get pistol whipped. Whether I was home or not. Gotta love those good ol southern boys.

Necroshea wrote:Well, with warhammer you can pretty much be sure that it was a fellow player who took your stuff. I highly doubt the average thief would bother with lifting toy models.

Not true at all.

Most car break ins are done as "smash and grabs". A thief sees some hard plastics cases in a car and assumes (as is usually the case) that they must contain something valuable like electronics or guns.

He doesnt open them to inspect at the scene of the crime, he grabs and runs.

Imagine his dissapointment when he opens them only to find "toys".

The two times I have known people to have had army cases stolen from their cars they found the armies dumped nearby (one on the ground and another in a nearby dumpster a few blocks away).

One of the main drawbacks of using hard army cases as they co closely resemble what the avergae joe will assume is a gun/camera case, etc.

Sasori wrote:I don't understand all the people advocating assault and battery here.

Depending on the value of the Army, it can easily get into felony charges range, and that's a much better way to get back at someone, than a one time beating which can land yourself in a lot of trouble as well.

Because the American & Canadian criminal justice systems don't really involve the victim of the crime in any real capacity other than as an observer, which tends to remove any catharsis. Additionally, victims all typically have an innate desire to 'make a difference' as a means of empowering themselves in the face of victimization, which typically will translate to some method of deterring others from repeating the crime of which that person had been a victim. Given that proper deterrence requires celerity, severity & certainty, it is tough for a victim to leave that deterrence to the state, considering the former and latter principles are often completely lost in an already overburdened criminal justice system. While pure severity of punishment may be enough for some victims, its empowering effect is seriously mitigated in that the punishment's source is completely autonomous from the victim. Thus, people tend to advocate vigilantism because it accomplishes all those deterring effects, and tends to have a more direct feeling of 'justice' for the victim, even though in reality this may not be the case.

Also, this is the Internet, and everyone here is violent and abusive.

azazel the cat wrote:

Also, this is the Internet, and everyone here is violent and abusive.

Very true. It's also where everyone complains about everything and argues about everything. Put all these things together, and you have a recipe for disaster

I can't honestly say that I'd do any harm to the thief myself. I'd call the police, and embarassedly tell them someone stole a large collection of plastic models, and hope for the best. If I managed to find out who did myself (like by checking online auctions and such), I'd still call the police. It isn't worth the risk of dying over some plastic


Also, if you use GW army cases, leave the games-workshop emblem side facing up. Should deter most thieves, I'd imagine.

If you really want to be safe, use a battleforce sized box. That's what I do. Doesn't look like anything but toys.

Samus_aran115 wrote:Also, if you use GW army cases, leave the games-workshop emblem side facing up. Should deter most thieves, I'd imagine.

If you really want to be safe, use a battleforce sized box. That's what I do. Doesn't look like anything but toys.

I just keep the case in my trunk. I'd hate to have a thief disappointed that the box only had toys in it after he's gone to all the trouble of smashing my window that carries a $300.00 deductible on my insurance.

HA! Angry? I'm a Teenager. Its in my job description to be an angry sarcastic b*****d

Samus_aran115 wrote:That really sucks man. I own a chaos army too, and I can't imagine how'd I'd feel if the whole thing got jacked.

I cover up all my valuables in the car, or just leave them at home. I've been paranoid about theft ever since some dudes broke into our house and stole my N64 when I was about five. Broke my heart. I figure it can't hurt to be too careful.

Keep your friends close, and your possessions closer. That's the phrase, right?

Also, you guys have way too much anger. Odds are, if you actually found out who jacked your stuff, you'd either:
1. Get the gak beaten out of you by someone who obviously knows the risks and comes prepared, possibly with a weapon
2. Chicken out and slink back to your computer and complain about/ whine
3. Get a bunch of friends to help you, like a coward

This is real life. People are dangerous. They will hurt you. It isn't the movies, where thieves 'get what's coming to them' and skip town. Attacking anyone is a bad idea, especially criminals. Call the cops. That's the only thing you should do.

Heh, there is a valuable posession on my person I never conceal.....my smith&wesson, so I suppose if someone did steal my stuff they are ballsier than I would be (I personally would not be nutty enough to steal from someone open carrying). However the best recourse as you stated was to call law enforcement. Generally the best way to handle these type of things if you catch the person in the act is just to confront them verbally AND call law enforcement.

Generally scum arent worth jail time......

Smith and Wesson what? Your answer will determine how scared a potential thief would be

Yeah, I see your point though. I'd look like a fool if I carried my Kabar around with me everywhere, but it sure would keep criminals away, haha.

Samus_aran115 wrote:Smith and Wesson what? Your answer will determine how scared a potential thief would be

Yeah, I see your point though. I'd look like a fool if I carried my Kabar around with me everywhere, but it sure would keep criminals away, haha.

M&P45....about like a glock, but much more comfortable, and why not Kabar's are appropriate for any situation, clearing a trench, digging a small hole, gutting a pig (I litterally mean porky, a friend of mine did that for S&G's) etc.

If you're going to leave an army in a car then I would hide it under your car seat (or if it fits) in the dash.

DreadlordME! wrote:If you're going to leave an army in a car then I would hide it under your car seat (or if it fits) in the dash.

Alas that advice won't work for Imperial guard players

Wardragoon wrote:

Samus_aran115 wrote:Smith and Wesson what? Your answer will determine how scared a potential thief would be

Yeah, I see your point though. I'd look like a fool if I carried my Kabar around with me everywhere, but it sure would keep criminals away, haha.

M&P45....about like a glock, but much more comfortable, and why not Kabar's are appropriate for any situation, clearing a trench, digging a small hole, gutting a pig (I litterally mean porky, a friend of mine did that for S&G's) etc.

The Knife bans in GB P**s me off. what are you going to kill someone with? a £300 dedicated combat knife that takes 3 weeks to get there or a £7 kitchen knife from the supermarket? Idiots...

Also 90% of amateur(?) Knife wounds are superficial. Just to comfort y'all

At least its not as bad as when I used to play yugioh. People be getting jacked every week with no real way of tracking it.

What makes it worse is that ebay won't let you buy anything with "knife" in the title. But you can get...


A F*****G HARPOON GUN!

Probably something like this would happen...

Samus_aran115 wrote:

azazel the cat wrote:

Also, this is the Internet, and everyone here is violent and abusive.

Very true. It's also where everyone complains about everything and argues about everything. Put all these things together, and you have a recipe for disaster

I can't honestly say that I'd do any harm to the thief myself. I'd call the police, and embarassedly tell them someone stole a large collection of plastic models, and hope for the best. If I managed to find out who did myself (like by checking online auctions and such), I'd still call the police. It isn't worth the risk of dying over some plastic


Also, if you use GW army cases, leave the games-workshop emblem side facing up. Should deter most thieves, I'd imagine.

If you really want to be safe, use a battleforce sized box. That's what I do. Doesn't look like anything but toys.

Heh. A lot of my larger miniatures, and even many of my infantry-sized ones, are currently resting in halves of the boxes that tanks come in - plus I think I have a bunch of stuff in Ork Megaforce and Island of Blood and Assault on Black Reach box halves - which in turn are resting on a nice, cheap shelving unit - I think the unit plus two extra shelves cost me less than fifty Canadian dollars. The miniatures are clearly visible, as intended - as I like to know what is where.

However, I've started getting more cardboard KR cases - I have three on order waiting to be processed - to put my infantry in. My vehicles seem fine on the shelves for now, so I haven't worried so much about them yet.

Are brown cardboard boxes with a logo and a black plastic handle at elevated risk as well?

Edit: But yeah, the family van happens to have tinted windows except for driver's window, passenger's window, and windshield. So I can easily put my stuff behind a seat, and for extra safety, cover it up with a light blanket - our car, like our house, is very messy, so it doesn't look out of place. We didn't plan it that way - we were lucky. We've used the blanket to put over expensive electronics in the past, as well as larger GW stuff like megaforces.

Fafnir wrote:Probably something like this would happen...

Yeah, pretty much haha. You gallery is amazing btw!