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The Carnifex barely fits on the 60mm base it comes with. They're free to make an absurdly large model so long as its 2-6 feet/claws/things securely touch the large oval base.
Argh, I hope that this gets confirmed or shot down quickly - I have a Carnifex sitting just to my left that I want to convert into a Tyrannofex, but if the rumours turn out to be true then I'll become a regular Fex...
It's entirely possible that they worked Flyers into a full-blown 6th Ed feature, rather than make them a 5th Ed WD add-on. And really, that would make a lot more sense to me.
Marrak wrote:Then again, I still can't fathom what possible role pyrovores are supposed to use, and wonder who possibly playtested them to any degree of success.
The Pyrovore was one massively missed opportunity. Had the made that thing fire like a Hellhound and moved it into the fast attack section I would have bought them in droves.
I really hope they do something with this army because it's hurting.
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Andilus Greatsword wrote:It's entirely possible that they worked Flyers into a full-blown 6th Ed feature, rather than make them a 5th Ed WD add-on. And really, that would make a lot more sense to me.
Even so, Tyranids and their lack of vehicles will have to again be the exception and have its own section.
All other armies fly around in vehicles with AV. Tyranids do it equally well with creatures made with Wounds.
Tyranids with their kinda-Drop Pods needed special rules. Tyranids will need special rules for their kinda-Transports if they ever come out. They'll also need special rules for their kinda-Fliers to differentiate them from the typical MC-Jump-Infantry rules.
decoy101 wrote:nids are quite good as they are I've never thought of using the units that havent been made
Don't ever say that to a Tyranid player. You basically agreed to the three things Tyranid players would eat you for:
1. You said that Tyranids are comparable to Blood Angels, Space Wolves, and Grey Knights in terms of codex-creep-power.
2. You indirectly said Pyrovores are decent.
3. You said that it's okay if Tyranids go yet longer without a model for the Tervigon, the Tyrannofex, and the Mycetic Spore.
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decoy101 wrote:nids are quite good as they are I've never thought of using the units that havent been made
Don't ever say that to a Tyranid player. You basically agreed to the three things Tyranid players would eat you for:
1. You said that Tyranids are comparable to Blood Angels, Space Wolves, and Grey Knights in terms of codex-creep-power.
2. You indirectly said Pyrovores are decent. 3. You said that it's okay if Tyranids go yet longer without a model for the Tervigon, the Tyrannofex, and the Mycetic Spore.
I choked on my drink there...
Also, There is a Myectic Spore model. Same way there is a Hydra model. Forgeworld.
However, that is no excuse.
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decoy101 wrote:nids are quite good as they are I've never thought of using the units that havent been made
Don't ever say that to a Tyranid player. You basically agreed to the three things Tyranid players would eat you for:
1. You said that Tyranids are comparable to Blood Angels, Space Wolves, and Grey Knights in terms of codex-creep-power.
2. You indirectly said Pyrovores are decent.
3. You said that it's okay if Tyranids go yet longer without a model for the Tervigon, the Tyrannofex, and the Mycetic Spore.
^^^THIS^^^
That statement was real troll bait for me. I'm happy you've found a love for this current codex, but it's far from 'good'.
Happygrunt wrote:Also, There is a Myectic Spore model. Same way there is a Hydra model. Forgeworld.
However, that is no excuse.
Can you link me? Please don't link the meiotic spore, because that is a super spore mine.
There is no mycetic spore, Forgeworld or GW.
Aye.
Mycetic spores are essentially drop pods. They come from the root meaning fungal. I guess this works?
Meiotic spores are essentially super spore mines that split into smaller mines. They are based on biological meiosis which is a method of cell splitting (like Mitosis).
Happygrunt wrote:Also, There is a Myectic Spore model. Same way there is a Hydra model. Forgeworld.
However, that is no excuse.
Can you link me? Please don't link the meiotic spore, because that is a super spore mine.
There is no mycetic spore, Forgeworld or GW.
Aye.
Mycetic spores are essentially drop pods. They come from the root meaning fungal. I guess this works?
Meiotic spores are essentially super spore mines that split into smaller mines. They are based on biological meiosis which is a method of cell splitting (like Mitosis).
Rick Priestley said it best:
Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! The modern studio isn’t a studio in the same way; it isn’t a collection of artists and creatives sharing ideas and driving each other on. It’s become the promotions department of a toy company – things move on!
odorofdeath wrote:It's simply mind-blowing that GW would allow the 2 units that lack a model become top-tier units, and refuse to make a model.
It's a bit worrying... how can a company this big, that has been doing this so long, miss such a huge boat?
GW's money vault is full.
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Grimgob wrote:Must be. Who knows why a company wouldn't release a model that once you buy it you have to buy 3-4 boxes of termagaunts to play it.
This is the most perplexing part. It's a model, that, at it's core, makes the buyer purchase a few more boxes of Termagants per Tervigon. Someone wants to run 2 Tervigons? They're going to need to grab 5-6 boxes of Termagants. And Termagants have never been the big sellers of the Tyranid range.
A lot of the time, things like these are held back for financial reasons. They want a better window to sell them. There's no 'better' window for this model. Any window is best. It's got the potential to be a fantastic kit. Every Tyranid player wants at least one. It will make all those people who didn't want Termagants buy multiple boxes per Tervigon sold. Yet, someone up there thought holding a moneymaker like this back was a Good Idea™.
Fat_Little_Ripper wrote:I doubt such a beast would fit on the large oval base, but would it really need to?
I can't see them making an even bigger base for a single kit - the large oval base was made for fliers and very large models. Guaranteed, it'll be on an oval base. 7.5 inches tall, with the bulk it's going to need going by the artwork, is too big. I'g guess maybe an inch taller than the carnifex, and a lot bulkier.
The Arachnarok Spider comes with a 100mm by 150mm base. At the time of its release it was the only model to come with a base that big. Proof that GW would make a base just for one mini, at least to begin with.
And, let's not forget that they could always make it without a base just as thet did the Chaos Defiler / Soul Grinder. I'm not saying that they WILL make it that big, but when you consider the fairly massive Monstrous Creature kits they've come out with over the last year they most certainly COULD.
Was it not that GW held back the release due to the ongoing CH lawsuit thing, i.e. they werent sure where they stood if they did release a Tervi and CH won, rather then financial windows?
DISCLAIMER: I support neither GW/CH and really couldnt give a flying who won. I just thought that was the reason?
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Nah the chapterhouse thing has nothing to do with it.
Blood Angels hit their 6 month quota in less then 3, as did Dark Eldar. Tyranids however, at 6 months in still hadnt hit their 3 month quota. The reason there is no 2nd wave is because the nid codex is a total failure and dumping more money into it wouldnt be wise.
Saying that one simple errata and its fixed, but GW reserve those to the likes of Black Templar and Dark Angels
Rick Priestley said it best:
Bryan always said that if the studio ever had to mix with the manufacturing and sales part of the business it would destroy the studio. And I have to say – he wasn’t wrong there! The modern studio isn’t a studio in the same way; it isn’t a collection of artists and creatives sharing ideas and driving each other on. It’s become the promotions department of a toy company – things move on!
Ratius wrote:Was it not that GW held back the release due to the ongoing CH lawsuit thing, i.e. they werent sure where they stood if they did release a Tervi and CH won, rather then financial windows?
straightsilver wrote:Unfortunately GW were unable to release their Tervigon kit (see my other comments elsewhere) as they had intended and so are having to make do with a White Dwarf bolt on.
Essentially the WD rules will be a Tervigon and something else, and the kit will make both models, a bit like the new Ogre Kingdoms monsters.
At least this is what I have been told, don't know if it's true or not.
Many people expected the 2nd wave for October. Could also be that transforming the new stuff from metal to finecast caused some delay.
Maybe GW didn't want to release a tervigon/T-fex kit because the dex was such a mess that they are looking at a future dex/update/errata without the walking spawning pool (yes I hate the concept of the tervigon and T-fex and would be happy to see them disappear). Gotta have a dream.
Of course this does not explain the lack of models/biomorphs of so many other units. At this stage I'd almost prefer that we wait for a new dex done the road (2-3 years maybe - maybe sooner since I can't beleive sales are good for such a poorly written/edited/playtested book) that cleans up the mess and then models are released that fit the new dex design philosophy (and whichever of the new units that remain).
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