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sirlynchmob wrote:
1. http://www.studentpress.org/nspa/ it was a seminar on anti gay bullying. .

Except of course, you're wrong.
Its not specific to anti gay bullying.

From the actual pamphlet
http://www.studentpress.org/nspa/pdf/seattle2012.pdf

Bullying, Harassment
and Hazing
Bullying in schools. Harassment of
gay and lesbian students. Hazing
incidents that lead to violence, injury
and murder. Student journalists
cover a world where bullying,
harassment and hazing are part of
their experience. The extremely
violent incidents top the evening
news and appear on top of the
fold. The everyday incidents contribute
to lives of private misery.
This seminar will bring together
newsmakers and expert commentators
to report the extent
of these violations, their consequences
and what individuals and
organizations are doing about it.
The presentation will have natural
connections to the Friday afternoon
keynote speech by editor,
columnist and author Dan Savage.

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Joey wrote: If you leave his face a bloody, messy pulp, he won't ever feth with you again.
Just saying.

I hate to say it but generally Joey is right (unless they're into that whole payback thing then its not going to be good).


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Amaya wrote:

hotsauceman1 wrote:Just watched the Savage video. He is in the right. Im christian and i stop listening to the bible years ago.
Pastors are no longer about loving fellow man, its getting people riled up.
That and the church demands money of me, im running out of excuses not to give.

How are you Christian then?

Now I'm agreeing with Amaya. We're all doomed. Doomed I tells ya!

Frazzled wrote:

sirlynchmob wrote:
1. http://www.studentpress.org/nspa/ it was a seminar on anti gay bullying. .

Except of course, you're wrong.
Its not specific to anti gay bullying.

From the actual pamphlet
http://www.studentpress.org/nspa/pdf/seattle2012.pdf

Bullying, Harassment
and Hazing
Bullying in schools. Harassment of
gay and lesbian students. Hazing
incidents that lead to violence, injury
and murder. Student journalists
cover a world where bullying,
harassment and hazing are part of
their experience. The extremely
violent incidents top the evening
news and appear on top of the
fold. The everyday incidents contribute
to lives of private misery.
This seminar will bring together
newsmakers and expert commentators
to report the extent
of these violations, their consequences
and what individuals and
organizations are doing about it.
The presentation will have natural
connections to the Friday afternoon
keynote speech by editor,
columnist and author Dan Savage.

we're both right here, the event covered many topics and their press release stated dan was there to address the Harassment of
gay and lesbian students.

mattyrm wrote:
Some fethers are just hard bastards, and some fethers are just good at fighting. Lifting weights might help some, but its absolutely no guarantee of victory.

Exactly, there's a big difference between being physically imposing, and being willing and able to use your physically imposing frame to inflict harm on another person.

Most people don't actually like hurting other people.

dogma wrote:

mattyrm wrote:
Some fethers are just hard bastards, and some fethers are just good at fighting. Lifting weights might help some, but its absolutely no guarantee of victory.

Exactly, there's a big difference between being physically imposing, and being willing and able to use your physically imposing frame to inflict harm on another person.

Most people don't actually like hurting other people.

Aye, this threads kinda dull though because I think the same thing has cropped up about 100 times.

Sadly, I bet that means lots of kids are getting bullied. Although, its a wargaming website, so maybe a disproportional amount of kids who post on here are dweebs?

Every cloud and all that.

Frazzled wrote:He was bashing Christians. Accept it.

Conversely it might do for Christians to accept that there are certain elements of the Bible, and the larger Christian community, that aren't especially desirable in contemporary society.

dogma wrote:

Frazzled wrote:He was bashing Christians. Accept it.

Conversely it might do for Christians to accept that there are certain elements of the Bible, and the larger Christian community, that aren't especially desirable in contemporary society.

Conversely, I agree.


Didn't see that coming didya.

Chowderhead wrote:

daedalus wrote:

Joey wrote:

hotsauceman1 wrote:As a deep victim of bullying, Schools just done care. They are to afraid of the parents of the bully rather then the parents of the victim.
And to people who say its just part of growing up? Why the hack should it be? Yes a good amount of hazing is ok. But if you are like me, bullied where they turned all your friends against you and nearly drove you to suicide, is to much. We need to punish billies and not just forget about it because they are a star on the wrestling team or football.

So get a dumbell and bash their heads in. Humanity is a primal species that only respects strength.
I have sympathy for the victims of bullying but there is a way out - become a hard bastard.

Yup. Doesn't take a lot of skill to give someone not expecting it a face full of locker.

It also doesn't take much for the guy who you gave a face full of locker to beat the gak out of you and torture you online with his friends.

I'm not playing internet tough guy today. At least, I'm not trying to, really; I'm kind of a candyass. I've gotten my ass seriously kicked before, on many occasion. I'm just saying that all my problems relevant to this conversation went away whenever I became a disproportionately harsh inconvenience to those who were fething with me.

Chowderhead wrote:

Mannahnin wrote:Thanks for insulting Dan Savage. Every once in a while I start thinking you have some reasonable opinions, then you post something truly mindless and evil.

Hey! Rule one, buddy!

Don't make me sick the Mods on you!

hotsauceman1 wrote:
Oh, and the first comment? Why should my personal taste for enjoyment make me a subject for bullying? You are a wargamer, me and you are in the same boat buddy,

Not even close, "buddy". Wargaming, while geeky, is decidedly a male-oriented hobby (Have I just summoned Melissia?). Out of the hundreds of people who played in the 40k events at Adepticon, I think there were three women, total. I don't know about the Warmachine or Fantasy games, but the point is obvious. Among the people I game with are soldiers, firefighters, cops, construction workers and football players. I may get called out as a geek because I'm a wargamer, but these days, being a geek generally means you'll make a good living.

My Little Ponies, whatever you think of them, are aimed at a target demographic of pre-teen girls. Why should your personal taste make you a subject for bullying? Because you have chosen a taste that is decidedly feminine and girly. And while in your utopian dreamland were no one is judged for anything, in the real world where the rest of us live, you will be judged for this choice, and there will be consequences, and whining about those consequences is just as bad as making the choice. If you want to be thought of as a man, do manly things. If you want to be thought of as a pre-teen girl, do pre-teen girly things.

One of the reasons for bullying is that there are societal norms, and those who choose to exist outside those societal norms will stick out. At your age (I am assuming you're still in High School, from your other posts), many of your peers aren't going to have the same tools available that they would as adults. As adults, if you defy societal norms you risk not getting hired, not getting promoted, or being ostracized from community events. But the other teenagers at your school can't do that. They see you defying the societal norm, and their reaction is a very normal, very human one - they want to encourage you to return to society. The problem is, the only tool at their disposal, to convince you to do this, is bullying, either physical or verbal. We humans, at heart, are simple herd animals after all.

High School is where people first tend to learn about these societal norms. There's this pressure to fit in, that includes being bullied when you stick out. Is it "right"? Who cares. It's human, and we're not a perfect species. We do things that are wrong. You have choices. Whining about how this is unfair is not one of them - well, you can do it, but it won't help. And if you persist in not fitting in, you'll find that the bullying changes as you get older, from name calling and fights, to not getting a job and not getting promoted. Is that fair? Again, fairness doesn't enter into it, we live in the real world, not the ideal one.

Chowderhead wrote:What is I don't even this comment...

I'm fairly sure those words don't go in that order.

I've never had a bullying problem... whatsoever, so the concept is rather foreign to me... I don't see why the bullied kids don't just buy a Kabar and slit the bully's throat. That's what I'd do. Actually, no. Not a Kabar, probably a SOG or something.

It doesn't even have to get to that point though. I'm sure there are steps that can be taken to let that bully know you're srs. Bullies only have power over them because they feel like they can get away with it, or because they believe they're superior, or whatever. You can see this behavior in even the smallest organisms, and in other mammals, like wolves and wild cats. If the weaker organism can prove that he isn't as weak as they bully thinks he is, then the bully will leave him alone.

There are a lot worse things in the internet subculture than MLP FIM.

hotsauceman1 wrote:
Oh, and the first comment? Why should my personal taste for enjoyment make me a subject for bullying? You are a wargamer, me and you are in the same boat buddy,

I don't think proudly associating yourself with children's shows that are intended for little girls is really doing yourself any favors as far as minimizing the bullying. Your Lisa Frank stationary probably isn't helping matters much either.

Most of the people I knew in middle/high school were ambivalent toward my playing of M:TG, D&D, or any other nerd games I did back then. Hell, I brought a fething chess board with me to school and would play on the lunch table. Most of the time I got picked on because I didn't have many friends, because I liked to be alone. The Boy Scouts was actually also somehow a trigger as well. I still can't figure that out.

"Yeah, I go camping, setting fires, and shooting guns."

"Pfft, sissy!"

"?"

Admittedly, my school wasn't exactly home to the best and the brightest. :/

I can only imagine what would have happened if I was parading around colorful anthropomorphic animals as the bestest thing in my life.

Also, as an afterthought, perhaps it's not just your personal taste, but that perhaps it's taken to an extreme? You've obviously quite... proud... of it. Perhaps you're coming off a little too strongly and people are reacting inappropriately as a result?

There's nothing long with watching and enjoying MLP, especially since it practically caters to males 16-24 now with constant pop culture references that are not aimed by any means at little girls. They've had Big Lebowski and Dr. Who references on it...

Amaya wrote:There's nothing long with watching and enjoying MLP, especially since it practically caters to males 16-24 now with constant pop culture references that are not aimed by any means at little girls. They've had Big Lebowski and Dr. Who references on it...

Probably; I'm just so out of touch with those kids these days that I'm trying (admittedly badly) to relate it to my own experiences.

Like that mop hair thing you guys do, and the unbent bills on your baseball caps.

daedalus wrote:

Amaya wrote:There's nothing long with watching and enjoying MLP, especially since it practically caters to males 16-24 now with constant pop culture references that are not aimed by any means at little girls. They've had Big Lebowski and Dr. Who references on it...

Probably; I'm just so out of touch with those kids these days that I'm trying (admittedly badly) to relate it to my own experiences.

Like that mop hair thing you guys do, and the unbent bills on your baseball caps.

Hey, I bend my baseball cap bills and the only reason I have mop hair right now is because I'm growing it shoulder length!

daedalus wrote:

Amaya wrote:There's nothing long with watching and enjoying MLP, especially since it practically caters to males 16-24 now with constant pop culture references that are not aimed by any means at little girls. They've had Big Lebowski and Dr. Who references on it...

Probably; I'm just so out of touch with those kids these days that I'm trying (admittedly badly) to relate it to my own experiences.

Like that mop hair thing you guys do, and the unbent bills on your baseball caps.

Here daedalus, this one's for you.

Well, that's forgivable then. I've just never understood what the big deal with it is. I mean, if you're going to go through with it, at least grow it out to Robert Plant proportions.

Amaya wrote:There's nothing long with watching and enjoying MLP, especially since it practically caters to males 16-24 now with constant pop culture references that are not aimed by any means at little girls. They've had Big Lebowski and Dr. Who references on it...

Regardless, it's still My Little Pony. It's a show about brightly pastel colored ponies.

Honestly the saddest part about the whole show is that males who watch it call themselves "bronies". That's pathetic and sad whichever way you want to slice it.

"Hey doods, I'm a bronie! See how cool I am? lol"

Newsflash, if you like this show and/or call yourself a brony, you need to grow up. Unless you're 12 or younger, and you're also a girl. Most males are becoming increasingly feminine which is disappointing. I would actually encourage that you get bullied if you like this show, because you deserve it. Seriously. Absolutely no trolling. If you like MLP, you deserve to be ostracized.

I don't like the show, but I find your view utterly disgusting, if I am to be completely serious.

MrDwhitey wrote:I don't like the show, but I find your view utterly disgusting, if I am to be completely serious.

That's fine, I find my view to be not nearly as bad as a 22 year old male watching a show intended for prepubescent girls. I would prefer for them to be a functioning member of society, there's nothing wrong with that.

Political correctness has definitely gone too far.

Vladsimpaler wrote:

Amaya wrote:There's nothing long with watching and enjoying MLP, especially since it practically caters to males 16-24 now with constant pop culture references that are not aimed by any means at little girls. They've had Big Lebowski and Dr. Who references on it...

Regardless, it's still My Little Pony. It's a show about brightly pastel colored ponies.

Honestly the saddest part about the whole show is that males who watch it call themselves "bronies". That's pathetic and sad whichever way you want to slice it.

"Hey doods, I'm a bronie! See how cool I am? lol"

Newsflash, if you like this show and/or call yourself a brony, you need to grow up. Unless you're 12 or younger, and you're also a girl. Most males are becoming increasingly feminine which is disappointing. I would actually encourage that you get bullied if you like this show, because you deserve it. Seriously. Absolutely no trolling. If you like MLP, you deserve to be ostracized.

So what? get off it.
I was into models and trains when I was a kid, and riding yamahas. I don't get the MLP stuff either but frankly all you kids are slavering girly boys compared to my generation. We had to walk through the freezing snow and rain uphill everyday to school, and had to wrestle alligators, dig 16 tons of coal, and spar with Smokin Joe for PE daily once we got there.



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Vladsimpaler wrote:

MrDwhitey wrote:I don't like the show, but I find your view utterly disgusting, if I am to be completely serious.

That's fine, I find my view to be not nearly as bad as a 22 year old male watching a show intended for prepubescent girls. I would prefer for them to be a functioning member of society, there's nothing wrong with that.

Political correctness has definitely gone too far.

I'd say suck it you have an avatar of a gay doll high school boy and you're riding someone else but thats inappropriate and Bert was awesome.
Why do I know you're in high school? You care.

Vladsimpaler wrote:

MrDwhitey wrote:I don't like the show, but I find your view utterly disgusting, if I am to be completely serious.

That's fine, I find my view to be not nearly as bad as a 22 year old male watching a show intended for prepubescent girls. I would prefer for them to be a functioning member of society, there's nothing wrong with that.

Political correctness has definitely gone too far.

I like how you think that people watching a show which may or may not be solely designed for pre-12 girls, makes them a non-functioning member of society. That is completely absurd.

Frazzled wrote:

Vladsimpaler wrote:

Amaya wrote:There's nothing long with watching and enjoying MLP, especially since it practically caters to males 16-24 now with constant pop culture references that are not aimed by any means at little girls. They've had Big Lebowski and Dr. Who references on it...

Regardless, it's still My Little Pony. It's a show about brightly pastel colored ponies.

Honestly the saddest part about the whole show is that males who watch it call themselves "bronies". That's pathetic and sad whichever way you want to slice it.

"Hey doods, I'm a bronie! See how cool I am? lol"

Newsflash, if you like this show and/or call yourself a brony, you need to grow up. Unless you're 12 or younger, and you're also a girl. Most males are becoming increasingly feminine which is disappointing. I would actually encourage that you get bullied if you like this show, because you deserve it. Seriously. Absolutely no trolling. If you like MLP, you deserve to be ostracized.

So what? get off it.
I was into models and trains when I was a kid, and riding yamahas. I don't get the MLP stuff either but frankly all you kids are slavering girly boys compared to my generation. We had to walk through the freezing snow and rain uphill everyday to school, and had to wrestle alligators, dig 16 tons of coal, and spar with Smokin Joe for PE daily once we got there.

Models and trains are definitely not girly/feminine, I don't see the correlation. My grandfather who fought in WWII still has models of trains and he's one of the coolest guys I know. Also I'm sure he would call you baby boomers just as bad, if not even worse in terms of being girly boys.

:Edit: Yeah, your jimmies have definitely been rustled. LOL, why so mad? Why not go back to your conspiracy theories on the fox news website?

MrDwhitey wrote:

Vladsimpaler wrote:

MrDwhitey wrote:I don't like the show, but I find your view utterly disgusting, if I am to be completely serious.

That's fine, I find my view to be not nearly as bad as a 22 year old male watching a show intended for prepubescent girls. I would prefer for them to be a functioning member of society, there's nothing wrong with that.

Political correctness has definitely gone too far.

I like how you think that people watching a show which may or may not be solely designed for pre-12 girls, makes them a non-functioning member of society. That is completely absurd.

No, it is based on marketing towards little girls. And based on the members who like MLP on this website, I'd say it's not a bad assumption.

Frazzled wrote:
So what? get off it.
I was into models and trains when I was a kid, and riding yamahas. I don't get the MLP stuff either but frankly all you kids are slavering girly boys compared to my generation. We had to walk through the freezing snow and rain uphill everyday to school, and had to wrestle alligators, dig 16 tons of coal, and spar with Smokin Joe for PE daily once we got there.

My desk job HAS made my hands embarrassingly soft in the recent years...

Amusing anecdote, I walked to school every day, and there was a large valley between the school and my house, so I actually had to walk uphill both, to school AND back.

I have been "Bullied" and I have dealt with it accordingly. People who cry out for Bully Awareness are most likely doing it for attention. I refuse to back down and let it happen. Acting like a Coward and waiting for the Schools to act is unrealistic. The Schools don't care. You have to act on your own. I do not tolerate any kind of abuse towards me, I don't not have to deal with. I will fight if I have to. People are too passive these days, they think with a magic wand, you can't just fix bullying by increasing awareness. It's not just a quick solution as everyone says it is. Kids need to stick up for themselves. People would say that I'm a victim of bullying. Face it, I'm not going to complain about it, I'm going to fight back. It happens, it's a part of life, I can't change, big deal. In the end, the kids who "bully" me are probably more insecure than me, they are posers which just mean nothing. This is coming from a person with BPD. Verbal bullying is nothing really, if kids in my class(Year 12/Australia/HSC) try to Verbally Harass me, I can snap and say insults that bad all you hear after that is a pin drop. Many kids get bullied for no reason, it's no deal big deal for me. It did matter a few years ago but Ijust don't care about them.

Vladsimpaler wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

Vladsimpaler wrote:

Amaya wrote:There's nothing long with watching and enjoying MLP, especially since it practically caters to males 16-24 now with constant pop culture references that are not aimed by any means at little girls. They've had Big Lebowski and Dr. Who references on it...

Regardless, it's still My Little Pony. It's a show about brightly pastel colored ponies.

Honestly the saddest part about the whole show is that males who watch it call themselves "bronies". That's pathetic and sad whichever way you want to slice it.

"Hey doods, I'm a bronie! See how cool I am? lol"

Newsflash, if you like this show and/or call yourself a brony, you need to grow up. Unless you're 12 or younger, and you're also a girl. Most males are becoming increasingly feminine which is disappointing. I would actually encourage that you get bullied if you like this show, because you deserve it. Seriously. Absolutely no trolling. If you like MLP, you deserve to be ostracized.

So what? get off it.
I was into models and trains when I was a kid, and riding yamahas. I don't get the MLP stuff either but frankly all you kids are slavering girly boys compared to my generation. We had to walk through the freezing snow and rain uphill everyday to school, and had to wrestle alligators, dig 16 tons of coal, and spar with Smokin Joe for PE daily once we got there.

Models and trains are definitely not girly/feminine, I don't see the correlation. My grandfather who fought in WWII still has models of trains and he's one of the coolest guys I know. Also I'm sure he would call you baby boomers just as bad, if not even worse in terms of being girly boys.

:Edit: Yeah, your jimmies have definitely been rustled. LOL, why so mad?

baby boomer? Dem's fighting words. Dawn. Whippy sticks. Be there.

Guy says "Awareness isn't a quick solution" then espouses a simple, "quick solution".

I sometimes wonder if some people even read what they actually post.

Frazzled wrote:

Vladsimpaler wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

Vladsimpaler wrote:

Amaya wrote:There's nothing long with watching and enjoying MLP, especially since it practically caters to males 16-24 now with constant pop culture references that are not aimed by any means at little girls. They've had Big Lebowski and Dr. Who references on it...

Regardless, it's still My Little Pony. It's a show about brightly pastel colored ponies.

Honestly the saddest part about the whole show is that males who watch it call themselves "bronies". That's pathetic and sad whichever way you want to slice it.

"Hey doods, I'm a bronie! See how cool I am? lol"

Newsflash, if you like this show and/or call yourself a brony, you need to grow up. Unless you're 12 or younger, and you're also a girl. Most males are becoming increasingly feminine which is disappointing. I would actually encourage that you get bullied if you like this show, because you deserve it. Seriously. Absolutely no trolling. If you like MLP, you deserve to be ostracized.

So what? get off it.
I was into models and trains when I was a kid, and riding yamahas. I don't get the MLP stuff either but frankly all you kids are slavering girly boys compared to my generation. We had to walk through the freezing snow and rain uphill everyday to school, and had to wrestle alligators, dig 16 tons of coal, and spar with Smokin Joe for PE daily once we got there.

Models and trains are definitely not girly/feminine, I don't see the correlation. My grandfather who fought in WWII still has models of trains and he's one of the coolest guys I know. Also I'm sure he would call you baby boomers just as bad, if not even worse in terms of being girly boys.

:Edit: Yeah, your jimmies have definitely been rustled. LOL, why so mad?

baby boomer? Dem's fighting words. Dawn. Whippy sticks. Be there.

Yarr, you started it cap'n, I intend to finish it.

I'll agree that I would prefer to never associate with most males who watch MLP and that referring to oneself as a brony is...a poor choice.

daedalus wrote:

Frazzled wrote:
So what? get off it.
I was into models and trains when I was a kid, and riding yamahas. I don't get the MLP stuff either but frankly all you kids are slavering girly boys compared to my generation. We had to walk through the freezing snow and rain uphill everyday to school, and had to wrestle alligators, dig 16 tons of coal, and spar with Smokin Joe for PE daily once we got there.

My desk job HAS made my hands embarrassingly soft in the recent years...

Amusing anecdote, I walked to school every day, and there was a large valley between the school and my house, so I actually had to walk uphill both, to school AND back.

We had to move a lot. Depending on the school it was righteously cold or really hot. On the flip side it was like 12 miles to my Jr. High so definitely bus time. Is it just me or do school buses suck like they were designed by Stalin to suck or something? No airconditioning in a fake leather (what the hell was that material!!!!) bench seat in Houston in May is, well sucky.


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Vladsimpaler wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

Vladsimpaler wrote:

Frazzled wrote:

Vladsimpaler wrote:

Amaya wrote:There's nothing long with watching and enjoying MLP, especially since it practically caters to males 16-24 now with constant pop culture references that are not aimed by any means at little girls. They've had Big Lebowski and Dr. Who references on it...

Regardless, it's still My Little Pony. It's a show about brightly pastel colored ponies.

Honestly the saddest part about the whole show is that males who watch it call themselves "bronies". That's pathetic and sad whichever way you want to slice it.

"Hey doods, I'm a bronie! See how cool I am? lol"

Newsflash, if you like this show and/or call yourself a brony, you need to grow up. Unless you're 12 or younger, and you're also a girl. Most males are becoming increasingly feminine which is disappointing. I would actually encourage that you get bullied if you like this show, because you deserve it. Seriously. Absolutely no trolling. If you like MLP, you deserve to be ostracized.

So what? get off it.
I was into models and trains when I was a kid, and riding yamahas. I don't get the MLP stuff either but frankly all you kids are slavering girly boys compared to my generation. We had to walk through the freezing snow and rain uphill everyday to school, and had to wrestle alligators, dig 16 tons of coal, and spar with Smokin Joe for PE daily once we got there.

Models and trains are definitely not girly/feminine, I don't see the correlation. My grandfather who fought in WWII still has models of trains and he's one of the coolest guys I know. Also I'm sure he would call you baby boomers just as bad, if not even worse in terms of being girly boys.

:Edit: Yeah, your jimmies have definitely been rustled. LOL, why so mad?

baby boomer? Dem's fighting words. Dawn. Whippy sticks. Be there.

Yarr, you started it cap'n, I intend to finish it.

Careful. as in the words of some guy playing Davey Crockett, I'm a screamer.