[E3 2012] Halo 4 discussion thread.

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**purplefood**

Bromsy wrote:Anyone else feel like the UNSC Infinity is about the lamest ship name we've seen in the franchise? I mean, Pillar of Autumn, In Amber Clad, Forward Unto Dawn, and we get... Infinity. I would have called it the UNSC Plot Device #4 and been done with it.

There have been worse names in the franchise...
In the games? It's probably the worst name.
Though for a game set in a space-age interstellar war it kinda makes sense that space ships would have something to do with the plot...

**SilverMK2**

I'm just waiting for someone to photoshop a picture of the ship to rename it BT Infinity

**Kanluwen**

purplefood wrote:
Bromsy wrote:Anyone else feel like the UNSC Infinity is about the lamest ship name we've seen in the franchise? I mean, Pillar of Autumn, In Amber Clad, Forward Unto Dawn, and we get... Infinity. I would have called it the UNSC Plot Device #4 and been done with it.

There have been worse names in the franchise...
In the games? It's probably the worst name.
Though for a game set in a space-age interstellar war it kinda makes sense that space ships would have something to do with the plot...

Except the game is set after the interstellar war.

The UNSC Infinity is a refitted warship, intended for exploration but with a crew who can protect themselves if necessary.

"Infinity" is a perfect name for humanity's first voyage of peace, not war.

**purplefood**

Kanluwen wrote:
purplefood wrote:
Bromsy wrote:Anyone else feel like the UNSC Infinity is about the lamest ship name we've seen in the franchise? I mean, Pillar of Autumn, In Amber Clad, Forward Unto Dawn, and we get... Infinity. I would have called it the UNSC Plot Device #4 and been done with it.

There have been worse names in the franchise...
In the games? It's probably the worst name.
Though for a game set in a space-age interstellar war it kinda makes sense that space ships would have something to do with the plot...

Except the game is set after the interstellar war.

The UNSC Infinity is a refitted warship, intended for exploration but with a crew who can protect themselves if necessary.

"Infinity" is a perfect name for humanity's first voyage of peace, not war.

Well after an interstellar war and in the middle of an interstellar cold war. Same thing.

**Kanluwen**

So why weren't we naming the Apollo programs "Haha, Beat You Russia"?

The value of PR is not lost upon Bungie/343 and the UNSC that they've created.
The fact that Spartans were never listed as Killed in Action to propagate the myth that they were unkillable is a perfect example of this.

**purplefood**

Kanluwen wrote:So why weren't we naming the Apollo programs "Haha, Beat You Russia"?

The value of PR is not lost upon Bungie/343 and the UNSC that they've created.
The fact that Spartans were never listed as Killed in Action to propagate the myth that they were unkillable is a perfect example of this.

Well obviously it was named Infinity because of the whole new beginning idea.
But I was talking about the 'plot device' comment.

**daedalus-templarius**

Kanluwen wrote:
purplefood wrote:
Bromsy wrote:Anyone else feel like the UNSC Infinity is about the lamest ship name we've seen in the franchise? I mean, Pillar of Autumn, In Amber Clad, Forward Unto Dawn, and we get... Infinity. I would have called it the UNSC Plot Device #4 and been done with it.

There have been worse names in the franchise...
In the games? It's probably the worst name.
Though for a game set in a space-age interstellar war it kinda makes sense that space ships would have something to do with the plot...

Except the game is set after the interstellar war.

The UNSC Infinity is a refitted warship, intended for exploration but with a crew who can protect themselves if necessary.

"Infinity" is a perfect name for humanity's first voyage of peace, not war.

Looks like ONI's propaganda is working.

**Bromsy**

Meh, Infinity is just too bland and well, generic. It doesn't conjure up 'brave explorer' to me. Infinity just implies totality. Maybe the UNSC Chasing Infinity or something would have worked.
Oh well, it's not like this is an Iain M. Banks novel, I shouldn't have such high standards.

**purplefood**

Bromsy wrote:Meh, Infinity is just too bland and well, generic. It doesn't conjure up 'brave explorer' to me. Infinity just implies totality. Maybe the UNSC Chasing Infinity or something would have worked.
Oh well, it's not like this is an Iain M. Banks novel, I shouldn't have such high standards.

I see where you're coming from to be fair...

**Soladrin**

Aye, the name is a little less interesting then previous ships. That said, it is kind of fitting for a vessel full of scientists.

**SilverMK2**

No aliens, these guns are for SCIENCE!

**NoBaconz4You**

THE SCIENCE OF KILLING STUFF FOR SCIENCE!

**daedalus-templarius**

So I guess I wasn't specific enough before with the whole ONI propaganda quip, but the whole 'explore in peace' is just a cover for the most powerful warship ever build by the UNSC.

While it probably has a lot of science and exploration capabilities, don't think it couldn't level the entire elite homeworld. It is a WARship.

**purplefood**

daedalus-templarius wrote:So I guess I wasn't specific enough before with the whole ONI propaganda quip, but the whole 'explore in peace' is just a cover for the most powerful warship ever build by the UNSC.

While it probably has a lot of science and exploration capabilities, don't think it couldn't level the entire elite homeworld. It is a WARship.

Like most sci-fi with Humanity as a interstellar power. They believe in defending themselves...

**daedalus-templarius**

purplefood wrote:
daedalus-templarius wrote:So I guess I wasn't specific enough before with the whole ONI propaganda quip, but the whole 'explore in peace' is just a cover for the most powerful warship ever build by the UNSC.

While it probably has a lot of science and exploration capabilities, don't think it couldn't level the entire elite homeworld. It is a WARship.

Like most sci-fi with Humanity as a interstellar power. They beleve in defending themselves...

Well, if you've read Glasslands, you'd see they are doing a bit more than defending themselves

**purplefood**

daedalus-templarius wrote:
purplefood wrote:
daedalus-templarius wrote:So I guess I wasn't specific enough before with the whole ONI propaganda quip, but the whole 'explore in peace' is just a cover for the most powerful warship ever build by the UNSC.

While it probably has a lot of science and exploration capabilities, don't think it couldn't level the entire elite homeworld. It is a WARship.

Like most sci-fi with Humanity as a interstellar power. They beleve in defending themselves...

Well, if you've read Glasslands, you'd see they are doing a bit more than defending themselves

Well defense + 1...

**Mr Nobody**

Bromsy wrote:Anyone else feel like the UNSC Infinity is about the lamest ship name we've seen in the franchise? I mean, Pillar of Autumn, In Amber Clad, Forward Unto Dawn, and we get... Infinity. I would have called it the UNSC Plot Device #4 and been done with it.

Maybe the pilots name is buzz lightyear.

**Soladrin**

daedalus-templarius wrote:
purplefood wrote:
daedalus-templarius wrote:So I guess I wasn't specific enough before with the whole ONI propaganda quip, but the whole 'explore in peace' is just a cover for the most powerful warship ever build by the UNSC.

While it probably has a lot of science and exploration capabilities, don't think it couldn't level the entire elite homeworld. It is a WARship.

Like most sci-fi with Humanity as a interstellar power. They beleve in defending themselves...

Well, if you've read Glasslands, you'd see they are doing a bit more than defending themselves

I don't remember any mention of this ship in Glasslands. All we know is that humans now have acces to forerunner tech and an engineer.

**Medium of Death**

Soladrin wrote:For anyone who keeps up with all the books..

They damn well better have guilty spark showing up in the game. After reading the forerunner saga it's become my favourite character in the series.

Wait... did he not get destroyed at the end of Halo 3?

Or is there a back-up of him?

I'd love to see him return. I was so annoyed when they made him go rampant at the end. It would have been better to keep him as another Chief companion IMHO.

I too will agree that the Cortana level from Halo 3 was terrible.

**Soladrin**

Go read the forerunner saga.
Spoilers away:

Spoiler:

**daedalus-templarius**

Soladrin wrote:

I don't remember any mention of this ship in Glasslands. All we know is that humans now have acces to forerunner tech and an engineer.

They talk about the infinity a bit near the end of the book.

**Soladrin**

Mhm, fair enough, to lazy to look it up.